British Top 30 P4P August 2007

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 06 Aug 2007, 18:36

Loftgroov wrote:Gavin Rees is above Carl Froch on what basis?

Gavin Rees has beaten a top #7 fighter in his devision... Froch hasn't.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 07 Aug 2007, 09:17

stujones wrote:
Loftgroov wrote:Gavin Rees is above Carl Froch on what basis?
Gavin Rees has beaten a top #7 fighter in his devision... Froch hasn't.

That is pretty much it.

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 09 Aug 2007, 08:23

Hmmm... How come sometimes rankings are adjudged to be meaningless (contrived and engineered by governing bodies) and at other times used to underpin how good someone is for the sake of argument?

Froch is more of a talent than Rees. I suppose it depends what the criteria are for these rankings.

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 09 Aug 2007, 08:36

Horse wrote:
stujones wrote:
Loftgroov wrote:Gavin Rees is above Carl Froch on what basis?
Gavin Rees has beaten a top #7 fighter in his devision... Froch hasn't.
That is pretty much it.

Mbaye is on a par with Tatevosyan IMO in terms of overall talent

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 09 Aug 2007, 13:56

M'Baye the night he fought Rees was on a par with Peter Buckley.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 09 Aug 2007, 22:41

Loftgroov wrote:Hmmm... How come sometimes rankings are adjudged to be meaningless (contrived and engineered by governing bodies) and at other times used to underpin how good someone is for the sake of argument?

We are talking about independent rankings, rather than sanctioning bodies rankings. Surely they have some meaning?

Loftgroov wrote:Froch is more of a talent than Rees. I suppose it depends what the criteria are for these rankings.

Perhaps I should have put Rees below Froch and Eastman, due to their much better overall records. But Rees beat a reigning "big four" World champion and now holds the WBA belt, so I had to have him somewhere near the top, and I thought the spot above Eastman looked about right.

Where would you have put him on my list?

Albert · Post by **Albert** » 10 Aug 2007, 05:12

Carl Froch not higher?

What is Scott Harrison still doing there.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 10 Aug 2007, 10:52

~ MIKEE ~ wrote:
Horse wrote:
stujones wrote: Gavin Rees has beaten a top #7 fighter in his devision... Froch hasn't.
That is pretty much it.
Mbaye is on a par with Tatevosyan IMO in terms of overall talent

But M'baye had the WBA title and was highly ranked. Tatevosyan had lost numerous times and was not highly ranked.

nickd wrote:M'Baye the night he fought Rees was on a par with Peter Buckley.

Yes M'baye was crap.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 10 Aug 2007, 21:32

Albert wrote:Carl Froch not higher?

No.

Albert wrote:What is Scott Harrison still doing there.

Not much.

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 11 Aug 2007, 06:48

Horse wrote:
~ MIKEE ~ wrote:
Horse wrote: That is pretty much it.
Mbaye is on a par with Tatevosyan IMO in terms of overall talent
But M'baye had the WBA title and was highly ranked. Tatevosyan had lost numerous times and was not highly ranked.

nickd wrote:M'Baye the night he fought Rees was on a par with Peter Buckley.
Yes M'baye was crap.

fair enough, i was jsut saying

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 11 Aug 2007, 18:53

~ MIKEE ~ wrote:
Horse wrote:
~ MIKEE ~ wrote:Mbaye is on a par with Tatevosyan IMO in terms of overall talent
But M'baye had the WBA title and was highly ranked. Tatevosyan had lost numerous times and was not highly ranked.
fair enough, i was jsut saying

I appreciate your thoughts on the matter. I have not seen much of Tatevosyan so I would not know.