Women's Boxing

Boxing Fanatic · Post by **Boxing Fanatic** » 10 Aug 2007, 11:33

Best Female Boxer???

Boxing Fanatic · Post by **Boxing Fanatic** » 10 Aug 2007, 11:36

At 114 Sacred Downing
She is on the 05' international team
05' national champ
04' national champ
02' national champ

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 10 Aug 2007, 20:42

If you mean in the world, it's Katie Taylor, and in my opinion, it's not close at all.

enforcer · Post by **enforcer** » 10 Aug 2007, 22:04

If we're talking worldwide, then I'd agree with Katie Taylor.

If we're talking US, I have to disagree with Sacred Downing. She has won many tournaments but no one ever gives her a challenge. Also, she hasn't done much internationally.

I'd say the best female am. boxer in the US is Cheryl Houlihan. She has won many national tournaments and has 3 golds in international tournaments.

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 10 Aug 2007, 22:56

enforcer wrote:If we're talking worldwide, then I'd agree with Katie Taylor.

If we're talking US, I have to disagree with Sacred Downing. She has won many tournaments but no one ever gives her a challenge. Also, she hasn't done much internationally.

I'd say the best female am. boxer in the US is Cheryl Houlihan. She has won many national tournaments and has 3 golds in international tournaments.

I'd actually agree with that. Cheryl Houlihan seems like a beast. I haven't seen her fight, but it seems like she just can't lose.

bkboxing · Post by **bkboxing** » 12 Aug 2007, 00:04

The best female boxer with the most skills is carrie barry, let the
record speak for it's self

Boxing Fanatic · Post by **Boxing Fanatic** » 12 Aug 2007, 11:07

My friend Valerie Rix fought Cheryl Holihan, Valerie only had 4 fights and lost a close desicion Houlihan's in ringside. This was a few years back.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 12 Aug 2007, 13:52

bkboxing wrote:The best female boxer with the most skills is carrie barry, let the
record speak for it's self

I saw her box years ago when she still lived in Michigan. She did have skills.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 12 Aug 2007, 13:57

Sorry to bring up an old topic, but did they ever announce the autopsy results for Becky Zerlentes? She died in Colorado two years ago. I watched the tape of the bout and she was not hit very hard so I assume that she had some underlying condition that caused her death or perhaps she had suffered a brain injury in training. This was definitely not a case where the ref did anything wrong. I was really surprised that the punch even put her down.

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 12 Aug 2007, 14:18

Dennis wrote:
bkboxing wrote:The best female boxer with the most skills is carrie barry, let the
record speak for it's self
I saw her box years ago when she still lived in Michigan. She did have skills.

I'm still going with Katie Taylor. She's 18, has been fighting for a very long time (before women's boxing became legal in Ireland, she was snuck in and fought boys), she's wopn the Women's Worlds, Europeans, all kinds of stuff. And she represents Ireland nationally in two sports-boxing and soccer; I also believe she is a track and field athlete. Her brother, Pete Taylor, is also an extremely good fighter at welterweight.

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 12 Aug 2007, 14:19

Dennis wrote:Sorry to bring up an old topic, but did they ever announce the autopsy results for Becky Zerlentes? She died in Colorado two years ago. I watched the tape of the bout and she was not hit very hard so I assume that she had some underlying condition that caused her death or perhaps she had suffered a brain injury in training. This was definitely not a case where the ref did anything wrong. I was really surprised that the punch even put her down.

They determined she was susceptible to concussive swelling; don't know about anything else.

the_boxer · Post by **the_boxer** » 12 Aug 2007, 17:12

what ever happen to Ashley Barnett, Cleveland, Ohio , now she was good she beat carrie barry at ringside pretty easy in 05

enforcer · Post by **enforcer** » 12 Aug 2007, 17:45

I don't know what happened to Ashley Barnett, but she did beat Carrie Barry twice in 2005. Also, Patricia Manuel beat Carrie twice in 2006. Don't get me wrong, Carrie is my good friend and an excellent boxer, I just think Cheryl has a better record.

Cheryl has not lost in the US since 2002 as far as I know. Yes, sometimes she lies on the ropes and looks like crap and has a close fight, but she always manages to come out on the winning side. Cheryl is very talented and definitely knows how to work the amateur scoring system.

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 12 Aug 2007, 18:46

enforcer wrote:I don't know what happened to Ashley Barnett, but she did beat Carrie Barry twice in 2005. Also, Patricia Manuel beat Carrie twice in 2006. Don't get me wrong, Carrie is my good friend and an excellent boxer, I just think Cheryl has a better record.

Cheryl has not lost in the US since 2002 as far as I know. Yes, sometimes she lies on the ropes and looks like crap and has a close fight, but she always manages to come out on the winning side. Cheryl is very talented and definitely knows how to work the amateur scoring system.

Will you be back next year? A few people I was expecting to see at Nationals this year; like you and Akima Stocks, weren't there.

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 13 Aug 2007, 05:01

Katie Taylor (IRL) EC/WC

Sofiya Ochigava (RUS) WC

Aya Cissoko (FRA) EC/WC

Irina Sinetskaja (RUS) WC

Hasibe Erkoc (TUR) EC/WC

Arianne Fortin (CAN) WC

M.C. Mary Kom (IND) WC

Sarita Devi Laishram (IND) WC

Ri Jong Hyang (PRK) WC

Yum Kum Ju (PRK) WC

enforcer · Post by **enforcer** » 15 Aug 2007, 20:02

Kolya wrote:
Will you be back next year? A few people I was expecting to see at Nationals this year; like you and Akima Stocks, weren't there.

I was training to do the US Championships this year but I injured my shoulder in sparring about a month before the tournament. I'm still rehabbing it.

No more amateur for me. As a boxer at least, I'll still be involved as I'm certified as a coach and official. I'm going pro as soon my shoulder is better. I feel that I've done all I can as an amateur and its time for me to move on.

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 15 Aug 2007, 23:08

enforcer wrote:
Kolya wrote:
Will you be back next year? A few people I was expecting to see at Nationals this year; like you and Akima Stocks, weren't there.
I was training to do the US Championships this year but I injured my shoulder in sparring about a month before the tournament. I'm still rehabbing it.

No more amateur for me. As a boxer at least, I'll still be involved as I'm certified as a coach and official. I'm going pro as soon my shoulder is better. I feel that I've done all I can as an amateur and its time for me to move on.

Wow, good luck. I can see what you mean. I've seen your coach say on other sites that you're a scrapper anyway and that the amateur system isn't really the best for your style. I know those shoulder injuries suck, I did something to the cartlidge in my left shoulder and had to do all kinds of stuff to fix it. I'll keep an eye out; you turning pro at 118?

enforcer · Post by **enforcer** » 16 Aug 2007, 13:55

Yeah, my style should do well in the pros. Its worked pretty well for me in the US, but my style isn't what the AIBA judges are looking for so I doubt I'd ever be a an amateur world champion. It will probably be easier for me to get a pro belt with all the different sanctioning bodies.

Anyway, as a pro I'll most likely fight 118-122lb and could possibly even go down to 115lbs if the money was right.

jtyson · Post by **jtyson** » 17 Aug 2007, 16:44

Kolya wrote:
Dennis wrote:
bkboxing wrote:The best female boxer with the most skills is carrie barry, let the
record speak for it's self
I saw her box years ago when she still lived in Michigan. She did have skills.
I'm still going with Katie Taylor. She's 18, has been fighting for a very long time (before women's boxing became legal in Ireland, she was snuck in and fought boys)

man that would suck to be a guy and lose to a female in boxing

ringsidemike · Post by **ringsidemike** » 20 Aug 2007, 10:32

How good is Tameka Stephens from Charlotte, NC?

I met her recently and she's getting ready to turn pro.

enforcer · Post by **enforcer** » 21 Aug 2007, 09:24

amy wrote: Good luck to you! I've been waiting for you to turn pro so the rest of us can have a chance to win something.

Thanks! I'm really looking foward to a pro career also. As soon as I get my shoulder better I'll be ready to go...but I have to admit that I'm getting a bit impatient.

enforcer · Post by **enforcer** » 21 Aug 2007, 09:26

ringsidemike wrote:How good is Tameka Stephens from Charlotte, NC?

I met her recently and she's getting ready to turn pro.

I know Tameka from the 2006 US Team. She is good for a big girl, but I'm don't think she has that many fights. Also, I always question the conditioning of those bigger girls, especially if they're carrying a lot of extra fat rather than being solid, like say Laila Ali.

enforcer · Post by **enforcer** » 22 Aug 2007, 12:17

amy wrote:
Well, that's a polite way of putting it. I noticed that at Nationals. I was surprised at the lack of experience of a lot of the topped ranked gals. I suppose when they start to face greater competition as women's boxing grows they will be forced to keep up on their conditioning if they want to excel at the sport.

Man, you should have seen the bigger women's weight classes when I first started going to the nationals back in 2001/2002. It seemed that anything over 145lbs was horrible, and the 165lb + divisions were literally a joke. The level of competition in women's amateur boxing has gotten a lot better over the past five years, and especially the bigger weight categories.

Boxing Fanatic · Post by **Boxing Fanatic** » 23 Aug 2007, 15:03

My sister Angel Hamby has won 3 national titles and a world title. She is only 15 and will make a run at the 2012 olypics in sydney. She has a good shot if she stays focussed.

enforcer · Post by **enforcer** » 23 Aug 2007, 15:11

Boxing Fanatic wrote:My sister Angel Hamby has won 3 national titles and a world title. She is only 15 and will make a run at the 2012 olypics in sydney. She has a good shot if she stays focussed.

Good for her. Its great that girls are starting boxing younger and younger these days. That is what the sport needs to progress and grow. Unfortunately, its not a given that women's boxing will be in the 2012 Olympics. But lets keep our fingers crossed...