Boxing is the toughest sport

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 13 Aug 2007, 17:22

Kolya - my toughest sport would probably be figure skating. 6'6", 250# on skates. LOL. I can't skate to save my life and doing acrobats on skates would be more challenging for me than getting in the ring with Klitschko (not saying that would be easy either).

walshb · Post by **walshb** » 13 Aug 2007, 17:25

nordicskier wrote:In response to an earlier post when walshb wrote "I can't see how swimming or Nordic skiing was ahead in endurance," I think that real data needs to be considered. A universal method for determining endurance capacity is a V02 max test, which measures maximum oxygen uptake per kg of body mass per minute. Now if you look at the numbers, the V02 records for both males and females are held by nordic skiers. The male world record is 96 milliliters/kg held by Bjørn Dæhlie of Norway. (For comparison, Lance Armstrong tested at 83 milliliters/kg and running legend Steve Prefontaine, with a 1 mile time of 3:54, tested at 84 milliliters/kg.) The entire Norwegion men's nordic ski team last year had an average VO2 max of 88.2 milliliters/kg. Now professional boxers, by comparison, have been shown to max out at 54 to 64 milliliters/kg, with the very best having only 70% of the aerobic capacity of an average elite nordic skier. Considering this data, it would appear that nordic skiing does requier more endurance than boxing...

I am not saying that boxing is not tough, but having your lungs torn out while nordic sking (to the point of passing out) can be as painful as being repeatedly beaten in the face with a boxing glove (also to the point of passing out). I think that all sports are tough in their own right, and should be respected likewise.

Definitely both swimming and Nordic skiing take a lot of endurance, but no amount of science and formulas can ever really measure the endurance needed for a boxer to throw punches for 12 rounds and take a beating for 12 rds. Swimmers and skiers simply swim and ski. They do not have to worry about taking hard physical punishment to the head and body like a boxer does. So the fact that a boxer takes punishment as well as throws so many punches from all angles non stop is the treal test of stamina/endurance. Nothing IMO compares and no formulas will ever change my mind. They are a guide, but they are NOT definitive proof...

zhdamistro · Post by **zhdamistro** » 13 Aug 2007, 21:03

i think the article really shorted boxing in ANALYTIC APTITUDE. they are acting like boxing has no stratagy. what do they think you just get in the ring and beat each other and may the most physically gifted fighter win. they even placed badminton higher and table tennis. thats plain out lunitic. i guess you have to experience boxing to know how much stratagy goes in it.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 13 Aug 2007, 22:59

zhdamistro wrote:i think the article really shorted boxing in ANALYTIC APTITUDE. they are acting like boxing has no stratagy. what do they think you just get in the ring and beat each other and may the most physically gifted fighter win. they even placed badminton higher and table tennis. thats plain out lunitic. i guess you have to experience boxing to know how much stratagy goes in it.

Some boxers, especially a lot of beginners do box without much strategy. If you are talking about more experienced boxers, then I agree that most boxers use a lot of strategy and the ANALYTIC APTITUDE should be much higher for boxing.

walshb · Post by **walshb** » 14 Aug 2007, 10:08

zhdamistro wrote:i think the article really shorted boxing in ANALYTIC APTITUDE. they are acting like boxing has no stratagy. what do they think you just get in the ring and beat each other and may the most physically gifted fighter win. they even placed badminton higher and table tennis. thats plain out lunitic. i guess you have to experience boxing to know how much stratagy goes in it.

Absolutely, It's possibly the most all round gifted and talented sport.
It requires so much of everything and strategy and quick thinking and reflexes and speed are all so essential.....To be able to focus so highly on your opponent and to try work out what move or shot he is going to throw, what angle from and what way he will attack is so very difficult and requires serious skill and mental ability.....

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 14 Aug 2007, 15:10

walshb wrote:
zhdamistro wrote:i think the article really shorted boxing in ANALYTIC APTITUDE. they are acting like boxing has no stratagy. what do they think you just get in the ring and beat each other and may the most physically gifted fighter win. they even placed badminton higher and table tennis. thats plain out lunitic. i guess you have to experience boxing to know how much stratagy goes in it.
Absolutely, It's possibly the most all round gifted and talented sport.
It requires so much of everything and strategy and quick thinking and reflexes and speed are all so essential.....To be able to focus so highly on your opponent and to try work out what move or shot he is going to throw, what angle from and what way he will attack is so very difficult and requires serious skill and mental ability.....

That is all very true. Now try coaching someone and explaining all those intricacies of the sport. Too many people think boxing is easy and doesn't require strategy. Some boxers even think too much. Any coaches out there will know what I mean by that statement.

Kolya · Post by **Kolya** » 14 Aug 2007, 15:54

Dennis wrote:Kolya - my toughest sport would probably be figure skating. 6'6", 250# on skates. LOL. I can't skate to save my life and doing acrobats on skates would be more challenging for me than getting in the ring with Klitschko (not saying that would be easy either).

It would be like watching Wlad Klitschko try to ice skate!

On second though; I think all we need to do is watch the Sanders fight to see how Wlad does on ice skates.

Boxing Fanatic · Post by **Boxing Fanatic** » 14 Aug 2007, 17:39

Boxing is the toughest sport, how many people do you really know that can get his in the face by a professianal boxer. Not many... but you could teach a boxer to dance or ice skate, play football ext. I think that if you could get a figure skater to box a top ten ranked fighter in whatever weight the figure skater weighs they would probably die.

squarering · Post by **squarering** » 14 Aug 2007, 20:52

To be fair, I think you have to clearify your definition of the word tough. Are we talking about endurance, the wide range of training regiments. streangth, speed?. Are we talking danger or enduring punishment.? Are we talking about how long it takes to become skilled in the sport ?. Could we be talking about the toll it takes on the athletes, during compition and the physical and mental damage from the long term effects of a sport? Are you talking about being all alone in the spotlight with no team mate to rely on and no opportunity to call time outs. How about the constant hours of boring routines of the same drills month after month after year after year with no seasonal break to regoup. Maybe you are talking about the amenities of the sports training facilities. and thier ease of access. You could use the percentage of participants in a given sport that are able to make living doing it. If these are the critera used to determine the toughest sport,...... Oh, then the answer is simple.......Boxing

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 15 Aug 2007, 07:50

squarering wrote:To be fair, I think you have to clearify your definition of the word tough. Are we talking about endurance, the wide range of training regiments. streangth, speed?. Are we talking danger or enduring punishment.? Are we talking about how long it takes to become skilled in the sport ?. Could we be talking about the toll it takes on the athletes, during compition and the physical and mental damage from the long term effects of a sport? Are you talking about being all alone in the spotlight with no team mate to rely on and no opportunity to call time outs. How about the constant hours of boring routines of the same drills month after month after year after year with no seasonal break to regoup. Maybe you are talking about the amenities of the sports training facilities. and thier ease of access. You could use the percentage of participants in a given sport that are able to make living doing it. If these are the critera used to determine the toughest sport,...... Oh, then the answer is simple.......Boxing

Timeouts? I had a beginning boxer who actually called a timeout in his first bout. He lost by RSC because of it. I now remind all beginners that there are no timeouts in boxing. LOL.

squarering · Post by **squarering** » 15 Aug 2007, 22:56

I had the same thing happen a few times with green kids in thier first sparring session. Outside I handle it like a coach is suppose to, but I have to admitt, I does get a chuckle out of me. It reminds me of that movie League of Thier Own, when Tom Hanks starts yelling at one of the players on the womens baseball team " THERE'S NO CRYING IN BASBALL".

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 16 Aug 2007, 00:29

Hal, you nailed it. I joke now about timeouts in boxing. It is sort of like Chris Webber calling an extra timeout that Michigan didn't have and losing the game because of it. Looking back on it, it is so funny, except for Chris and a whole bunch of Michigan fans.

squarering · Post by **squarering** » 19 Aug 2007, 10:58

Oh that' right, Michigan does have a basketball team.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 20 Aug 2007, 18:42

squarering wrote:Oh that' right, Michigan does have a basketball team.

I'm an Ohio State Buckeyes alum and fan. I don't mind reminding Michigan fans about the Webber fiasco though.