17 years since Nigel sparked The Blade

deadpan · Post by **deadpan** » 16 Aug 2007, 16:35

http://www.secondsout.com/news/index.cf ... 4&cs=22556

Christ on a bike, that makes me feel old. But proud.

I bet he brings out the dewy-eyed nostalgia in most of us. What a fighter.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 16 Aug 2007, 18:46

deadpan wrote:http://www.secondsout.com/news/index.cf ... 4&cs=22556

Christ on a bike, that makes me feel old. But proud.

I bet he brings out the dewy-eyed nostalgia in most of us. What a fighter.

I remember it well

My 57th Amatuer fight stopping Jason Wallace of Battersae in the 1st

Then going home to watch it on itv and seeing my brother screaming at the telly

Great courage by Benn

jeej · Post by **jeej** » 16 Aug 2007, 19:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyw_v1sN-58

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 16 Aug 2007, 19:17

KO Artist wrote:
deadpan wrote:http://www.secondsout.com/news/index.cf ... 4&cs=22556

Christ on a bike, that makes me feel old. But proud.

I bet he brings out the dewy-eyed nostalgia in most of us. What a fighter.
I remember it well

My 57th Amatuer fight stopping Jason Wallace of Battersae in the 1st

Then going home to watch it on itv and seeing my brother screaming at the telly

Great courage by Benn

I remember it, had £50 on KO Artist/Benn 1st round KO double. Still living off the proceeds to this day

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 17 Aug 2007, 03:32

Goz wrote:
KO Artist wrote:
deadpan wrote:http://www.secondsout.com/news/index.cf ... 4&cs=22556

Christ on a bike, that makes me feel old. But proud.

I bet he brings out the dewy-eyed nostalgia in most of us. What a fighter.
I remember it well

My 57th Amatuer fight stopping Jason Wallace of Battersae in the 1st

Then going home to watch it on itv and seeing my brother screaming at the telly

Great courage by Benn
I remember it, had £50 on KO Artist/Benn 1st round KO double. Still living off the proceeds to this day

If I recall correctly, Ken Curtis who is now a pro ref, stopped my fight because my opponents nose was bleeding!

Hardly Dark Destroyer stuff!

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 17 Aug 2007, 04:39

Barkley was dead at the weight but that wasn't Benn's fault, who went out there and did a number on him. The Yanks were moaning afterwards about Benn's dirty tactics, which was amusing in light of the treatment Don Cockell received at the hands of Marciano or the way Dave Charnley was butted out of his world title fight with Joe Brown.
The fact Barkley came back to win major world titles at super-middleweight and light-heavyweight shows you what a good win it was for Benn.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 17 Aug 2007, 05:04

Thanks for the youtube link its been a while since I've seen that!

chief · Post by **chief** » 17 Aug 2007, 05:20

That was a good run for Benn round that time...

Williams, De Witt, Barkley, Eubank in a row..... No easy nights in that lot!

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 17 Aug 2007, 05:28

Yeah, thanx for the you tube link. What a fvckin warrior Nigel Benn was. To stop Barkley and McClellan...............how many British fighters have ever beaten 2 scary monsters like these in their career?

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 17 Aug 2007, 05:43

Yes going to the US really made Benn IMO, he came back a much wiser fighter.

Still think more of our boys would have benefitted from 12 months and couple of fights out there early in their careers.

chief · Post by **chief** » 17 Aug 2007, 05:58

Goz wrote:Yes going to the US really made Benn IMO, he came back a much wiser fighter.

Still think more of our boys would have benefitted from 12 months and couple of fights out there early in their careers.

Agreed.. Look at fighters such as Steve Collins, Denis Andries... Doubt they would've enjoyed half the success without the US experience...

As for a current fighter, add Bernard Dunne..

Dirk Kelly · Post by **Dirk Kelly** » 17 Aug 2007, 06:48

chief wrote:
Goz wrote:Yes going to the US really made Benn IMO, he came back a much wiser fighter.

Still think more of our boys would have benefitted from 12 months and couple of fights out there early in their careers.
Agreed.. Look at fighters such as Steve Collins, Denis Andries... Doubt they would've enjoyed half the success without the US experience...

As for a current fighter, add Bernard Dunne..

Didn't Eubank start out in the States? And didn't Clinton Woods go over there for some hard sparring a few years ago? Remember reading an article on it somewhere.

Dirk Kelly · Post by **Dirk Kelly** » 17 Aug 2007, 06:53

A question on the 3 knockdown rule.

The article was calling it ludicrous, is it mandatory? Or can you choose it in the negotiations, like glove and ring size? if so then it was Barkley's fault for agreeing to it but also a good measure of his confidence if he went into that fight not believing that he would get knocked down 3 times within a round.

How many knock downs in the 1st round were there in Pac Man vs. Marquez fight?

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 17 Aug 2007, 07:02

dopey wrote:A question on the 3 knockdown rule.

The article was calling it ludicrous, is it mandatory? Or can you choose it in the negotiations, like glove and ring size? if so then it was Barkley's fault for agreeing to it but also a good measure of his confidence if he went into that fight not believing that he would get knocked down 3 times within a round.

How many knock downs in the 1st round were there in Pac Man vs. Marquez fight?

in those days it was a rule of the wbo.

they did eventually change to come in line with the others.

great win for benn.

arguably his best after mcclellan.

JC · Post by JC » 17 Aug 2007, 07:25

Be interesting to see Kahn go over and get some experience in America.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 17 Aug 2007, 07:26

dopey wrote:A question on the 3 knockdown rule.

The article was calling it ludicrous, is it mandatory? Or can you choose it in the negotiations, like glove and ring size? if so then it was Barkley's fault for agreeing to it but also a good measure of his confidence if he went into that fight not believing that he would get knocked down 3 times within a round.

How many knock downs in the 1st round were there in Pac Man vs. Marquez fight?

It's to do with the rules of the relevant sanctioning body, dopey.

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 17 Aug 2007, 07:40

dopey wrote:
chief wrote:
Goz wrote:Yes going to the US really made Benn IMO, he came back a much wiser fighter.

Still think more of our boys would have benefitted from 12 months and couple of fights out there early in their careers.
Agreed.. Look at fighters such as Steve Collins, Denis Andries... Doubt they would've enjoyed half the success without the US experience...

As for a current fighter, add Bernard Dunne..
Didn't Eubank start out in the States? And didn't Clinton Woods go over there for some hard sparring a few years ago? Remember reading an article on it somewhere.

Yeah I think Eubank had his first 4/5 fights out there.

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 17 Aug 2007, 07:43

J-C wrote:Be interesting to see Kahn go over and get some experience in America.

Can't see Fwank bearing to see Khan fight on someone else's promotion even if it was for the long term greater benefit of Amir's career.

And I suppose why should he? He knows he can build him up just the same over here, probably wouldn't make much more money (for the increased risk) if he sent Khan to the US for a year to see if he can learn anything that will really help him become the real goods.

chief · Post by **chief** » 17 Aug 2007, 08:26

I suppose the US adventure doesn't always work out too good..... e.g. Audley..

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 17 Aug 2007, 08:37

Thing is I doubt Audley went to downtown Philly seeking 'gym wars' or knocked on the door of the Kronk gym asking to be shown no respect and to get stuck in.

I think he spent most his time in Vegas giving it the big one so I doubt there was much of a learning curve so possibly not a good example!

chief · Post by **chief** » 17 Aug 2007, 08:44

Goz wrote:Thing is I doubt Audley went to downtown Philly seeking 'gym wars' or knocked on the door of the Kronk gym asking to be shown no respect and to get stuck in.

I think he spent most his time in Vegas giving it the big one so I doubt there was much of a learning curve so possibly not a good example!

Agreed Goz... The earlier statement was somewhat tongue in cheek... I have no doubt that Audley's seeming reluctance to mix it up, tough it out or listen to anyone else prevented him from making the most of the opportunites out there... Unfortunatly, as we have seen, his pro career has been a load of hot air and bravado.... Infact, with that in mind, maybe the States was the best place for him!

The Blade · Post by **The Blade** » 17 Aug 2007, 09:10

deadpan wrote:http://www.secondsout.com/news/index.cf ... 4&cs=22556

Christ on a bike, that makes me feel old. But proud.

I bet he brings out the dewy-eyed nostalgia in most of us. What a fighter.

Don't know about dewy-eyed nostalgia. He beat the crap out of me.

chief · Post by **chief** » 17 Aug 2007, 09:17

The Blade wrote:
deadpan wrote:http://www.secondsout.com/news/index.cf ... 4&cs=22556

Christ on a bike, that makes me feel old. But proud.

I bet he brings out the dewy-eyed nostalgia in most of us. What a fighter.
Don't know about dewy-eyed nostalgia. He beat the crap out of me.

The real blade would never admit that.... He wanted round 2 in the car park!!

J · Post by J » 17 Aug 2007, 11:18

chief wrote:
Goz wrote:Thing is I doubt Audley went to downtown Philly seeking 'gym wars' or knocked on the door of the Kronk gym asking to be shown no respect and to get stuck in.

I think he spent most his time in Vegas giving it the big one so I doubt there was much of a learning curve so possibly not a good example!
Agreed Goz... The earlier statement was somewhat tongue in cheek... I have no doubt that Audley's seeming reluctance to mix it up, tough it out or listen to anyone else prevented him from making the most of the opportunites out there... Unfortunatly, as we have seen, his pro career has been a load of hot air and bravado.... Infact, with that in mind, maybe the States was the best place for him!

PLEASE DONT MENTION AUDLEY IN A BENN THREAD, FECK ME POLES APART!

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 17 Aug 2007, 11:22

For the interested, Bobby Gunn is donating part of his next purse to Iran.

No quipps about whether it is the strap or the zip please.

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