Mike Tyson-Lennox Lewis [PEAK]

Roaring · Post by **Roaring** » 18 Aug 2007, 21:03

If Mike Tyson fights Lennox Lewis,at both there peaks,who wins.
I,m undecided.Any thoughts.

kovit · Post by **kovit** » 18 Aug 2007, 22:50

Tyson would make Lewis into Bonecrusher Smith or Tony Tucker for the decision win or the 4-6 round stoppage. The truth about Tyson losing to Douglas is because Tyson has a less training and the peak Tyson would have a more hard training when it comes against the peak Lewis. I would never have the peak Lewis beating against the peak Tyson. No Chance In Hell.

kovit · Post by **kovit** » 18 Aug 2007, 22:51

The peak Tyson would beat the peak Lewis for the decison win like he did to Bonecrusher Smith and Tony Tucker despite the fact Lewis have a different style from both Smith and Tucker.

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 18 Aug 2007, 23:17

Im picking Tyson..either a decision win, with Lewis trying to survive as alot of the great jab and grab artists of the 1980s did.

Or Tyson finds the awkward footed Lewis with a sharp cross or hook. Much the same way that McCall and Rahman did when Lewis was off balance.

Kym

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 18 Aug 2007, 23:34

Lewis would be to much for Tyson at any time in his career, I couldnt see Tyson walking through Lewis's right hands to get inside, Lewis would do a similar job as he did to Tua winning with his jab and straight right.

jezzamundo · Post by **jezzamundo** » 19 Aug 2007, 00:43

Prime for prime, I'd have to pick Lewis by a mid to late rounds stoppage. It would be far more competitive than their actual fight, but I think the end result would be very similar. Lewis has a very similar style to Douglas, who beat Tyson at the end of his prime (although admittedly Tyson was hugely underprepared and had no strategy).

Tyson would prepare well for Lewis, and would definitely be a chance of a KO win in the first 5 or so rounds. However, Lewis would also be well prepared for Tyson, and use his range, size and strength to his advantage, and gradually wear Tyson down.

JCS · Post by **JCS** » 19 Aug 2007, 00:54

I'd say Tyson would catch Lewis at some point and expose that chin, peak or no peak.

jimglen · Post by **jimglen** » 19 Aug 2007, 03:13

Tyson by mid to later round KO, absolutely "no other outcome!"

the Tyson that fought Lewis was NOT Tyson, and Lennox is the 'most' overated HW in history, prime 4 prime, peak for peak Tyson destroys him like he did everybody else... case closed!

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 19 Aug 2007, 04:03

JCS wrote:I'd say Tyson would catch Lewis at some point and expose that chin, peak or no peak.

That makes no sense, PEAK OR NO PEAK they fought when they were both not at there peaks and Tyson was destoyed or have you forgotten.

jezzamundo · Post by **jezzamundo** » 19 Aug 2007, 05:45

That makes no sense, PEAK OR NO PEAK they fought when they were both not at there peaks and Tyson was destoyed or have you forgotten.

True, but Lewis was just barely off his peak ability, and Tyson was well past his. I think this fight only gives us a glimpse of what a prime for prime fight could have been between these two.

JCS wrote:
I'd say Tyson would catch Lewis at some point and expose that chin, peak or no peak.
Why couldn't Tua do the same?

Tyson in his prime was so much better than Tua it isn't funny! Still, Lewis would be prepared, fight a cautious, measured fight and eventually stop Tyson in my opinion.

kovit · Post by **kovit** » 19 Aug 2007, 06:54

Tyson once stopped in the late and that was against Jose Ribalta in the 10 round before Tyson won the world heavyweight championship.

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 19 Aug 2007, 09:49

Crazy as it sounds, this would have all the makings for a boring fight. Cautious but effective Lewis, vs I don't have a Plan B Tyson. Lewis would show Tyson alot of respect early, but he'd also keep him from getting inside to do any damage. After about the 5th, Tyson would begin sinking into frustration and become less active, but Lewis would never consider going for the kill. At the end of 12, Lennox Lewis would win by a clear decision, without any knockdowns by either fighter.

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 19 Aug 2007, 10:13

Decagon wrote:
JCS wrote:I'd say Tyson would catch Lewis at some point and expose that chin, peak or no peak.
Why couldn't Tua do the same?

Lewis took some bombs from Briggs too

ringsider · Post by **ringsider** » 19 Aug 2007, 11:25

Peak vs peak....it is a no brainer.

TYSON via KO.

Too much power, too fast, and coming from too many different angles.

JCS · Post by **JCS** » 19 Aug 2007, 12:42

ben k wrote:
JCS wrote:I'd say Tyson would catch Lewis at some point and expose that chin, peak or no peak.
That makes no sense, PEAK OR NO PEAK they fought when they were both not at there peaks and Tyson was destoyed or have you forgotten.

No. I have not forgotten. Have you forgotten simple logic? If the answer is that easy, then why not just lock the thread? Tyson was over a decade past his peak. Lewis, only several years at most.

And umm.. Peak Tyson > Peak Tua. What the hell are you people smoking?

sockdolager · Post by **sockdolager** » 19 Aug 2007, 12:58

Decagon wrote:If Tyson doesn't take (Fill in any top 10 HW ever) out in the first four rounds, he loses.

I Feel Fine · Post by **I Feel Fine** » 20 Aug 2007, 13:51

I agree with decagon on this one. I think Lewis is just a better fighter than Tyson, and I think he has to style to beat him. Lewis is not going to underestimate Tyson like he did Rahman, so the chin thing isn't really credible to me. Lewis didn't have a great chin, but he wasn't Wladimir Klitschko either. He's going to be a bit more careful with Tyson.

RazorKO · Post by **RazorKO** » 20 Aug 2007, 20:08

Tyson KO 3. Lewis has no chance in this fight, if slow as molasis Ray Mercer could not only outjab/outbrawl Lewis but also BACK him up - What the hell would a prime motivated Tyson would do to him?

The only way Lewis refrains himself from being knocked out is pulling a Bonecrusher in a desperate attempt to last the distance. A lot like he did to a shot Tyson back in 2002 where he clinched every second and threw less punches than there was rounds.

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 21 Aug 2007, 07:36

JCS wrote:
ben k wrote:
JCS wrote:I'd say Tyson would catch Lewis at some point and expose that chin, peak or no peak.
That makes no sense, PEAK OR NO PEAK they fought when they were both not at there peaks and Tyson was destoyed or have you forgotten.
No. I have not forgotten. Have you forgotten simple logic? If the answer is that easy, then why not just lock the thread? Tyson was over a decade past his peak. Lewis, only several years at most.

And umm.. Peak Tyson > Peak Tua. What the hell are you people smoking?

I nevercompared Tua Tyson i said he would fight a similar fight

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 21 Aug 2007, 08:28

If Tyson doesnt win in the first 5 rounds then Lewis stops him late. Lewis had the size and skill to do a job on him, that Tucker started and Douglas finished, both of whom are a league below Lewis

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 21 Aug 2007, 08:31

RazorKO wrote:Tyson KO 3. Lewis has no chance in this fight, if slow as molasis Ray Mercer could not only outjab/outbrawl Lewis but also BACK him up - What the hell would a prime motivated Tyson would do to him?

The only way Lewis refrains himself from being knocked out is pulling a Bonecrusher in a desperate attempt to last the distance. A lot like he did to a shot Tyson back in 2002 where he clinched every second and threw less punches than there was rounds.

Is that why Tyson was mashed to pieces and knocked out at the end of the fight Razoe? Lewis was very careful in the first couple of rounds but after that subjected Tyson to a horrendous battering.

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 21 Aug 2007, 10:08

Theres a third pattern Terry. The one where Tyson gets the sh1t beaten out of him for a few rounds, then bites half his opponents ear off, and then gets disqualified

RazorKO · Post by **RazorKO** » 21 Aug 2007, 13:50

dr_devious wrote:
RazorKO wrote:Tyson KO 3. Lewis has no chance in this fight, if slow as molasis Ray Mercer could not only outjab/outbrawl Lewis but also BACK him up - What the hell would a prime motivated Tyson would do to him?

The only way Lewis refrains himself from being knocked out is pulling a Bonecrusher in a desperate attempt to last the distance. A lot like he did to a shot Tyson back in 2002 where he clinched every second and threw less punches than there was rounds.
Is that why Tyson was mashed to pieces and knocked out at the end of the fight Razoe? Lewis was very careful in the first couple of rounds but after that subjected Tyson to a horrendous battering.

Tyson was hurt more from the clinches than the punches. All that holding on tactics commited by Lewis tired an old past it Tyson out, and it still took him 8 rounds to finally put him on his back. There is no way Lewis can get away with that much clinching against the 86 version of Tyson unless Lewis fights purely to survive i.e Bonecrusher or Mitch Green.

RazorKO · Post by **RazorKO** » 21 Aug 2007, 14:08

Terry D wrote:
RazorKO wrote: The only way Lewis refrains himself from being knocked out is pulling a Bonecrusher in a desperate attempt to last the distance. A lot like he did to a shot Tyson back in 2002 where he clinched every second and threw less punches than there was rounds.
He threw enough to KO Tyson with his sparse shots and make Mike beg for a rematch whilst trying to stroke Lewis' hair.

Tyson would never beat Lewis, he would not scare Lewis. Lennox would fire at him early, back him up, cut him and then KO him. That answer is contained right in the fights of the two.

Why did Mercer do well against Lewis, he had what Tyson lacked, mental strength and heart.

Mike is the overrated fighter in any class.

Lewis fought possibly the worse version Tyson there ever was, even worse than the one McBride beat; and Lewis still had to hold on for dear life through out the fight. Their fight is of no significance if these two fought in their primes.

An 86-88 Tyson wouldnt come head on to Lewis like he did, but jab/bob & weave inside of Lewis; brave but past it journeyman Mercer managed not only to outbrawl Lewis, but outjab him, back him up and beat him to the punch every time only to be robbed off a decision. If Mercer was able to in many people's eyes, defeat Lewis with tremendous ease, than Tyson would certainly be able too.

Why did Mercer do well against Lewis, he had what Tyson lacked, mental strength and heart.

Tyson may of lacked mental strength but certainly not heart. He took Ruddock's best shots in both fights and prevailed, and that was a shot Tyson that was taking those powerful hooks. He took a 10 round beating from Douglas and STILL managed to find the strength to arguably KO Douglas in the 8th with a uppercut out of nowhere, Tyson has never been knocked down or out from a single punch.
If anyone lacked heart it was Lewis for being starched twice by no hopers and using his JabnGrab technique i.e Ruiz to win his fights.

I Feel Fine · Post by **I Feel Fine** » 21 Aug 2007, 20:30

Lewis struggled with Mercer, yes, but Tyson struggled with some rangy, tall boxers who were not as good as Lewis either. That Buster Douglas comes to mind...

Saying that Lewis didn't show heart in his KO's to McCall and Rahman is ridiculous. He got KO'd, yes, but he tried to get up and continue... I thought the McCall stoppage was premature, also... I would say the same for Tyson against Douglas and Lewis, he at least tried to get up and continue. When you're out, you're out.