My first post,
going to the fight cant wait to see Andy Lee.
My predictions for the big 2 are:
Magee TKO 10
Dunne to get hometown dec (I think this spanish guy can take him in later rounds if Dunnes stamina is not up to spec)
Any other predictions?
OAKEY V MAGEE - DUNNE V MARTINEZ
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TerribleTerry
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From reading the irish papers, it seems hes desperate to win this and get a crack at Clinton woods.TerribleTerry wrote:I think Oakey might just have too much activity and desire for Magee - how much does the Belfastman want it these days? I am not sure..
All in all should be a smashing card
Hes drawing parrllels with woods (from not succeeding at SMW but moving up and finding his true weight). I think Magee could at least be a euro champion, its a question of his chin when he raeches the big hitters. Personally I dont think Oakey is a big hitter and think that although Oakey will be busy, Magee will hit the telling shots and wear him down.
I'm not sure that oakey has a punch judging by his record. Stopping 6 out of 24 is not impressive. Taking it must be mostly journeymen.
Bit it should be aan exciting fight (crosses fingers) all the same!
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Oakey certainly isnt a puncher and relies on a trusty jab and workrate to secure most of his wins. He is sturdy, although short for the weight.Ted wrote:From reading the irish papers, it seems hes desperate to win this and get a crack at Clinton woods.TerribleTerry wrote:I think Oakey might just have too much activity and desire for Magee - how much does the Belfastman want it these days? I am not sure..
All in all should be a smashing card
Hes drawing parrllels with woods (from not succeeding at SMW but moving up and finding his true weight). I think Magee could at least be a euro champion, its a question of his chin when he raeches the big hitters. Personally I dont think Oakey is a big hitter and think that although Oakey will be busy, Magee will hit the telling shots and wear him down.
I'm not sure that oakey has a punch judging by his record. Stopping 6 out of 24 is not impressive. Taking it must be mostly journeymen.
Bit it should be aan exciting fight (crosses fingers) all the same!
His last fight was one of his best performances after a spell in the wilderness. IF Magee has the desire left that he claims to have then his superior boxing should shine through, but I cant help thinking that Oakey could outhustle him.
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Im really looking forward to this card as RTE's coverage has been fairly decent and fancy oakey to make a good effort against magee, might have a little bet on oakey at 11/5 as this looks like the value bet of the night. Brian peters is starting to deliver good cards and if he can keep the standard of fights like saturdays card in dublin up we will soon be the envy of the uk in my opinion.
I live in dublin but if i was a fight fan in the uk i could think of nothing better than a weekend in dublin for a break what with the boxing and the all ireland semi's on sunday between dublin and kerry the city will be buzzing and the craic will be quality.
I live in dublin but if i was a fight fan in the uk i could think of nothing better than a weekend in dublin for a break what with the boxing and the all ireland semi's on sunday between dublin and kerry the city will be buzzing and the craic will be quality.
Jeez, Jimmy (I'm everyones daddy and friend) Magee and Dave (I tell you what) McAuley. Nearly as bad as the O'Herlihy - Dunphy - Giles.Cannibal wrote:Surely you're not talking about Jimmy Magee and Dave Boy? And don't get me started on the panel, they make me cringe so bad.Achybreaky wrote:Im really looking forward to this card as RTE's coverage has been fairly decent
I'm glad I'm watching it live so I dont have to listen to them, come to think of it EURO75 well spent!
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In a clash of unbeaten fighters, local hero Bernard Dunne defends his European super-bantamweight title at The Point in Dublin against Spanish threat and mandatory challenger Kiko "La Sensacion" Martinez.
It's an exciting one. Charismatic Dunne has enamoured the sporting-mad Irish public since returning from America two years ago, attracting sellout crowds to the cavernous Point (and the National Stadium) and equally large viewing figures on RTÉ. And he can fight. He won the European title with a dazzling 12-round decision over Newark's Esham Pickering last November and retained with a ruthless three-round stoppage of Kazakhstani Yersin Jailauov in March and a real routing of former amateur conqueror Reidar Walstad of Norway two months ago.
An ex-Irish amateur star, Dunne turned pro in the States in 2001 (after failing to make the Sydney Olympics), where he reeled off 14 impressive wins and trained at the world famous Wild Card Gym in Los Angeles under Freddie Roach.
"I've sparred Johhny Tapia, Wille Jorrin, Manny Pacquiao, Carlos Hernandez, Israel Vasquez, Shane Mosley and even James Toney," said the Dubliner.
A fine pro grounding.
But Bernard was always homesick and made his way back for Christmas 2005 and stayed. He's won 10 on the spin since, including a second-round crunching of Pontefract's useful Sean Hughes, a punch-perfect stoppage of Albuquerque's David Martinez in eight rounds and that big, big win over Pickering, the current British super-bantamweight champion, to lift the coveted EBU belt.
He's now 24-0 (14).
It hasn't all been plain sailing. He was wobbled in the 10th and last by rugged southpaw Ukrainian Yuri Voronin at the National Stadium in 2005 and barely made it to the finish. And a Mexican named Alejandro Cruz floored Dunne in the States, although Dunne climbed up to dominate. You wonder about his chin as he goes in with a proven puncher.
To Martinez, a 21-year-old with stats of 16-0 (13) and thus real ambition as he ventures outside Spain for the first time in the paid ranks. Based in Alicante, Martinez reeled off 11 knockouts after turning pro in June 2004 (all inside four rounds), including a three-round hammering of fellow countryman Juan Garcia Martin in his fourth outing - a man coming off an eight-round loss to Pickering for the European super-bantamweight title - and a second-round dismissal of 50-fight Frenchman Frederic Bonifai in just his seventh fight.
Clearly Kiko couldn't be held back and in March last year he challenged battle-hardened Frenchman Salem Bouaita for the EU super-bantamweight title and punched out a unanimous 10-round decision in his first distance battle. Martinez then went 12 rounds in his first defence, outscoring rugged Marseille man John Bikai in July last year, to prove he was more than a knockout artist. He relinquished to concentrate on this 'full' European title crack.
He sharpened up outscoring Spanish-based Venezuelan Edison Torres over eight rounds last December and blasting Romanian Andrei Florin in one round last time out in March.
This guy is definitely a threat. As well as his unbeaten pro record, he apparently went unbeaten in 40 amateur fights - 38 by stoppage. Don't forget that Dunne has been shaken by both Voronin and Cruz and is a bit open. And Bernard busts up.
But there's an inexperienced, untested feel about the Spaniard, a pro at 18 and still only 21 (to remind you), with all of three distance fights behind him. It's actually a surprise he is stepping up so soon, given Dunne, approaching his peak at 27, must be eyeing a world title tilt. The talented hometowner is ranked in the world top 10 by the 'big four' and licked Canada's Steve Molitor as an amateur (current IBF super-bantamweight champ). He's hungry, cocky, big for the weight, busy, quick, digs to head and body - an obvious tearaway. He can box, too. Expect him to do so in the early danger rounds, then to open up more when he has blunted the edge off the Spaniard's confidence and power. Martinez has a puncher's chance, of course, but Dunne generates a great atmosphere and in front of 7,000 of his fans looks the obvious pick.
Also on the bill, middleweight sensation Andy Lee has his first pro outing in Ireland in an eight-rounder against Belfast man Ciaran Healy.
The unbeaten Limerick southpaw, who boxed for Ireland in the last Olympics, has won 10 out of 10 in the States under legendary coach Emanuel Steward (seven early) and looked spectacular flattening former world title challenger Carl Daniels in three rounds earlier this year in Madison Square Garden.
Lee's homecoming makes this one of the biggest nights ever for Irish boxing, certainly since Naseem Hamed wore down Mexico's Manuel Medina in 11 rounds at The Point in August 1996. The likes of Harry Simon, Robin Reid, Tom Johnson, Danny Williams, Nate Miller, Michael Carruth, Mark Winters, Paul Griffin and Pascal Collins also fought on that show.
Lee, incidentally, was the only Irish representative at the last Games (shades of Britain's Amir Khan) but lost on a countback in the second series to a Cameroon. He had previously won silver at the world juniors and bronze at the European seniors.
He was offered half a million dollars by Steward to go pro, and settled well in Detroit.
It's an exciting one. Charismatic Dunne has enamoured the sporting-mad Irish public since returning from America two years ago, attracting sellout crowds to the cavernous Point (and the National Stadium) and equally large viewing figures on RTÉ. And he can fight. He won the European title with a dazzling 12-round decision over Newark's Esham Pickering last November and retained with a ruthless three-round stoppage of Kazakhstani Yersin Jailauov in March and a real routing of former amateur conqueror Reidar Walstad of Norway two months ago.
An ex-Irish amateur star, Dunne turned pro in the States in 2001 (after failing to make the Sydney Olympics), where he reeled off 14 impressive wins and trained at the world famous Wild Card Gym in Los Angeles under Freddie Roach.
"I've sparred Johhny Tapia, Wille Jorrin, Manny Pacquiao, Carlos Hernandez, Israel Vasquez, Shane Mosley and even James Toney," said the Dubliner.
A fine pro grounding.
But Bernard was always homesick and made his way back for Christmas 2005 and stayed. He's won 10 on the spin since, including a second-round crunching of Pontefract's useful Sean Hughes, a punch-perfect stoppage of Albuquerque's David Martinez in eight rounds and that big, big win over Pickering, the current British super-bantamweight champion, to lift the coveted EBU belt.
He's now 24-0 (14).
It hasn't all been plain sailing. He was wobbled in the 10th and last by rugged southpaw Ukrainian Yuri Voronin at the National Stadium in 2005 and barely made it to the finish. And a Mexican named Alejandro Cruz floored Dunne in the States, although Dunne climbed up to dominate. You wonder about his chin as he goes in with a proven puncher.
To Martinez, a 21-year-old with stats of 16-0 (13) and thus real ambition as he ventures outside Spain for the first time in the paid ranks. Based in Alicante, Martinez reeled off 11 knockouts after turning pro in June 2004 (all inside four rounds), including a three-round hammering of fellow countryman Juan Garcia Martin in his fourth outing - a man coming off an eight-round loss to Pickering for the European super-bantamweight title - and a second-round dismissal of 50-fight Frenchman Frederic Bonifai in just his seventh fight.
Clearly Kiko couldn't be held back and in March last year he challenged battle-hardened Frenchman Salem Bouaita for the EU super-bantamweight title and punched out a unanimous 10-round decision in his first distance battle. Martinez then went 12 rounds in his first defence, outscoring rugged Marseille man John Bikai in July last year, to prove he was more than a knockout artist. He relinquished to concentrate on this 'full' European title crack.
He sharpened up outscoring Spanish-based Venezuelan Edison Torres over eight rounds last December and blasting Romanian Andrei Florin in one round last time out in March.
This guy is definitely a threat. As well as his unbeaten pro record, he apparently went unbeaten in 40 amateur fights - 38 by stoppage. Don't forget that Dunne has been shaken by both Voronin and Cruz and is a bit open. And Bernard busts up.
But there's an inexperienced, untested feel about the Spaniard, a pro at 18 and still only 21 (to remind you), with all of three distance fights behind him. It's actually a surprise he is stepping up so soon, given Dunne, approaching his peak at 27, must be eyeing a world title tilt. The talented hometowner is ranked in the world top 10 by the 'big four' and licked Canada's Steve Molitor as an amateur (current IBF super-bantamweight champ). He's hungry, cocky, big for the weight, busy, quick, digs to head and body - an obvious tearaway. He can box, too. Expect him to do so in the early danger rounds, then to open up more when he has blunted the edge off the Spaniard's confidence and power. Martinez has a puncher's chance, of course, but Dunne generates a great atmosphere and in front of 7,000 of his fans looks the obvious pick.
Also on the bill, middleweight sensation Andy Lee has his first pro outing in Ireland in an eight-rounder against Belfast man Ciaran Healy.
The unbeaten Limerick southpaw, who boxed for Ireland in the last Olympics, has won 10 out of 10 in the States under legendary coach Emanuel Steward (seven early) and looked spectacular flattening former world title challenger Carl Daniels in three rounds earlier this year in Madison Square Garden.
Lee's homecoming makes this one of the biggest nights ever for Irish boxing, certainly since Naseem Hamed wore down Mexico's Manuel Medina in 11 rounds at The Point in August 1996. The likes of Harry Simon, Robin Reid, Tom Johnson, Danny Williams, Nate Miller, Michael Carruth, Mark Winters, Paul Griffin and Pascal Collins also fought on that show.
Lee, incidentally, was the only Irish representative at the last Games (shades of Britain's Amir Khan) but lost on a countback in the second series to a Cameroon. He had previously won silver at the world juniors and bronze at the European seniors.
He was offered half a million dollars by Steward to go pro, and settled well in Detroit.