Wayne Alexander: Forgotten Dynamite

whiskey · Post by **whiskey** » 22 Aug 2007, 15:09

http://www.livefight.com/news.php?news_ ... =2007&m=08

Wayne Alexander, the big punching croydon fighter described as 'The next Nigel Benn' has been missing since his shock defeat to frenchman Serge Vigne - here gives us an interview about his plans for the future and talks about the 'nearly' fights with Daniel Santos and Howard Eastman...

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 22 Aug 2007, 20:02

Can't help but warm to the guy for such searing honesty - a lot of other fighters could take a leaf out of his book in terms of the way he takes responsibility for his own actions rather than look to blame others.
After reading that I really hope he gets the opportunity to turn things around.
Good luck Wayne

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 23 Aug 2007, 04:17

Nice insights but very sloppy grammar. Please don't take offence, as I know not everybody is up on this, but at the very least somebody should proof-read submissions to that site.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 23 Aug 2007, 05:40

Nice to see some honesty from Wayne, its all a bit late now for him though. Maybe he can get 1 more decent payday.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 23 Aug 2007, 05:56

Old bones Ian wrote:Nice to see some honesty from Wayne, its all a bit late now for him though. Maybe he can get 1 more decent payday.

After he lost to Vigne early, and having lost to Mellis late, I wrote that Wayne has gone from somebody had the potential to knock out anybody at any time, to somebody who could BE knocked out by anybody at any time.

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 23 Aug 2007, 06:59

Nothing has really changed since Wayne's amateur days. He's always capable of winning by KO and has always been vulnerable to be knocked out too, but it tends to be a lot more of the former.

I knew someone recording the results on the medical cards in the ABA's and he was astonished when updating Wayne's card at the amount of KO and stoppages he'd accumalated.

Former ABA champ, then Area, British and EBU champ proves just how good the guy is/was, but whatever anyone says, he could and should have achieved even more than he has.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 23 Aug 2007, 07:11

THEBUTCH wrote:Nothing has really changed since Wayne's amateur days. He's always capable of winning by KO and has always been vulnerable to be knocked out too, but it tends to be a lot more of the former.

I knew someone recording the results on the medical cards in the ABA's and he was astonished when updating Wayne's card at the amount of KO and stoppages he'd accumalated.

Former ABA champ, then Area, British and EBU champ proves just how good the guy is/was, but whatever anyone says, he could and should have achieved even more than he has.

Should he? He's done pretty well for himself to get the European, which is the best belt a British boxer can hope for below world level. Are you saying Wayne should have been a world champ? After all, he is pretty much a chin-or-be-chinned slugger. Great excitement but not much finesse.

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 23 Aug 2007, 07:25

It's when I read these posts about Wayne and then look back on his career, I get the feeling he should have made more of his position as British and EBU champion. Really solidify himself as a champion.

I know he tried to do that as British champ, but challengers were seemingly hard to come by. So he walks away without a Londsdale belt for keeps. That's a wonderful achievement in my book and shame to miss out on.

Then there was the EBU crown. A good win, then he's told to ditch it (and that came straight from the horses mouth). Shame he didn't try and defend it a few times, keep the momentum going and hopefully start mixing it up with some of the top 10 contenders and then who knows.

I don't see Wayne being thought of having the same solid career as, say, Tony Sibson or Herol Graham, and I think he could have been somewhere approaching that, probably less so, but nethertheless thought of having a more prolonged time in the major championships. Certainly the WBU counts for sweet FA even though there were some good wins with that joke title on the line.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 23 Aug 2007, 08:00

Yes, good points, Butch. He definitely could have had longer/better British and European reigns. He wasn't world title material, though. But I get what you're saying.

whiskey · Post by **whiskey** » 23 Aug 2007, 15:22

oliverfennell wrote:Nice insights but very sloppy grammar. Please don't take offence, as I know not everybody is up on this, but at the very least somebody should proof-read submissions to that site.

No offence taken Oli, unfortunately i'm the most qualified on that site due to my grade F in cooking - so grammar is not one my of my strong points.

Hope this helps

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 23 Aug 2007, 19:10

You only need to see the huge amounts of layoffs that Wayne has had throughout his career to see that he should have done more with his career.... when he had big wins, like the Takaloo victory, he was never able to build on them... dont know how much is down to Wayne himself and how much is down to management etc... but its a shame... I certainly wouldnt say Wayne has been the best managed fighter I've ever seen...

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 24 Aug 2007, 04:57

I wish Wayne all the best.

He is a good guy and no liberty taker.

I sparred with him a bit in the early 90´s

I think he was prepareing for the LOndon SEMi´s at Battersea Town Hall.

I lost in the SW Divs.

He was at Welter then Big puncher even in those days.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 24 Aug 2007, 12:04

The trouble with Wayne was, he upset The Man!

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 26 Aug 2007, 00:11

i think wayne can make a valuable contribution to up and comers in this country. nice fella with world class dynamite in his fists. all the best wayne, if it were down to me i'd give you a lonsdale belt

WayoftheCass · Post by **WayoftheCass** » 26 Aug 2007, 00:25

Deserter wrote:Can't help but warm to the guy for such searing honesty - a lot of other fighters could take a leaf out of his book in terms of the way he takes responsibility for his own actions rather than look to blame others.
After reading that I really hope he gets the opportunity to turn things around.
Good luck Wayne

Yeah I'll second that. Nice guy. Shame his career has turned out the way it did. Credit it to him for taking the responsibility.

J · Post by J » 28 Aug 2007, 07:47

top fella wayne, met him in the boozer just after the tak win by the York Hall, had tiome for a chat and came accross as a real genuine and pleasant bloke.

its a crying shame he didnt cpaitalise onthat fight and lost to Mellis, FW seemed to lose interest in his career after that.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 28 Aug 2007, 14:50

was that in the "salmon and ball"?

J · Post by J » 29 Aug 2007, 06:46

think so the pub by the petrol station.

BBN · Post by **BBN** » 29 Aug 2007, 07:35

The Dundee Arms I believe

J · Post by J » 29 Aug 2007, 07:43

thats the one kev, always forget the bloody name, was there with you that night I recall having a beer outside!

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 29 Aug 2007, 08:39

I don't think Warren can be blamed that much for Waynes career, a British title, Euro Title and a WBO world title shot, plus WBU world fights. Thats not a bad return for someone like Wayne, who admited wasting Franks time.

harrygreb · Post by **harrygreb** » 29 Aug 2007, 12:05

thats it the dundee arms, only been in a couple of times to be honest.