Willie Pep and the legendary round.....

Boxerdog · Post by **Boxerdog** » 23 Nov 2003, 12:45

You won't hear a lot of argument about the fact that Pep was one of the greatest defensive fighters of all time. But the story of winning a round without throwing a punch is boxing's version of the Babe Ruth called shot.
Supposedly the round happened against Jackie Graves in the mid `40s.
What do you think? Did it happen or should it be filed under "Paul Bunyonesque B.S."?

mrbassie · Post by **mrbassie** » 23 Nov 2003, 16:02

What about effective aggression though? (or non effective aggression) Would you score to the guy with the defensive prowess or the guy making the effort?

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 23 Nov 2003, 16:08

Willie looked like he was winning the round by his sheer artistry.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/williepep.html

Roll With The Punches · Post by **Roll With The Punches** » 24 Nov 2003, 02:10

it doesn't sound like a round that i would have scored for Pep

Boxerdog · Post by **Boxerdog** » 24 Nov 2003, 02:34

bennie wrote:Willie looked like he was winning the round by his sheer artistry.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/williepep.html

Yeah, I have seen that article bennie. Eastside is just another boxing messageboard though. I wonder if the writer is reliable.

I believe the story, btw, but because another writer for the Cincinnati Post told me it was true. I would like to ask Bert Sugar or somebody else that was supposed to have been there face to face still.

It would be a helluva fight to have on tape, wouldn't it?

Holyfield Headbutt · Post by **Holyfield Headbutt** » 24 Nov 2003, 19:00

Boxerdog wrote:You won't hear a lot of argument about the fact that Pep was one of the greatest defensive fighters of all time. But the story of winning a round without throwing a punch is boxing's version of the Babe Ruth called shot.
Supposedly the round happened against Jackie Graves in the mid `40s.
What do you think? Did it happen or should it be filed under "Paul Bunyonesque B.S."?

For my money, Pernell Whitaker is the greatest defenseman that ever lived and Pep isn't even all that close.

And yes, I believe that Willie won the round without throwing a punch.

Boxerdog · Post by **Boxerdog** » 25 Nov 2003, 22:06

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For my money, Pernell Whitaker is the greatest defenseman that ever lived and Pep isn't even all that close.
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Not being argumentative, but what do you base that statement on?
Do you think that Pea has he defensive stuff to fight over 240 pro bouts spanning four decades?
I just can't see the "Pep isn't even all that close" part, really.

The_Wild_Man · Post by **The_Wild_Man** » 26 Nov 2003, 04:38

Derrick Gainer tried this against Marquez and ONE JUDGE did actually score a round for him

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 26 Nov 2003, 07:31

The fact that Pepp still had all his faculties when he retired and was still winning fights regularly well into his forties indicates that the statement that Whittaker was miles ahead of him defensively is ludicrous.

Pepp fought anyone and everyone in his career, and the only man to stop him in his prime was the great sandy saddler.

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