Where does Scott Harrison go if he loses again?

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 26 Nov 2003, 14:23

Scott Harrison NEEDS to win this fight on Saturday. If he doesn't, he will have to revert to the British scene, possibly at super-feather. It will be tricky bringing him back.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 26 Nov 2003, 14:26

Disagree slightly here, with I'm sure if Brodie manages to get a victory against Chi this time then I'm sure a deal could be agreed for Brodie to make a big domestic voluntary clash against Harrison.

Should Harrison win that, then he's back on track - if he loses again, then he doesn't belong in the world scene anyway.

He's got his best years ahead of him, he has got plenty of time to get back even if he does lose to Medina (and Brodie lose to Chi). There's the European title anyway.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 26 Nov 2003, 14:50

Not in a month of sundays would Warren let Harrison get in the ring with Brodie, well I don't reckon so anyway.

Actually scratch that, if Brodie has a belt, then yeah, otherwise nope.

I think Harrison will end up at lightweight myself.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 26 Nov 2003, 15:17

The trouble with a prospective Brodie-Harrison showdown for the WBC featherweight title, is that Warren has vowed never to have anything to do with the WBC. He will leave himself open for a helluva lot of flak if he suddenly reneges on that vow.

The_Power · Post by **The_Power** » 26 Nov 2003, 15:20

I agree with bennie.

Harrison must win this fight, if he does not that i believe really, any world ambitions are dead.

However, i cannot see how harrison is going to pull off the victory against the clearly superior Medina, unless larry hazard junior brings his family to judge this time as well.

Medina TKO 10

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 26 Nov 2003, 15:24

I go for Medina in the rematch. I then feel Scott Harrison will move up to super-featherweight and maybe pitched into a "sink or swim" blockbuster against Alex Arthur - if AAA can somehow get his career back on track. I can see them slugging it out for the WBU title.

Or, if Arthur gets exposed again, I forecast Harrison will slug it out with Michael Gomez or Kevin Lear in a Battle of Britain bonaza. The winner may get a crack at world honours, well the WBO sort anyway.

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 26 Nov 2003, 15:33

I think Harrison will be a different fighter this time round, and I can't see Medina getting any better than he was last time. With that in mind, I pick Harrison to win this fight, but it is still going to be a hard nights work.

However, I do feel that the Harrison camp have taken this fight purely because of being able to enforce the rematch clause in the contract, and there is the potential to slip up again. If that happens I am not really sure where Harrison goes.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 26 Nov 2003, 17:35

Bennie I think both you and I know that Warren will eat his words quicker than a starving man with a chocolate dictionary if working with the WBC means getting Harrison a legitimate title belt.

Mind you, calling Jose Sulaiman a wanker might have squashed his chances a bit.

Southpaw Stylist · Post by **Southpaw Stylist** » 26 Nov 2003, 17:36

"Where does Scott Harrison go if he loses on Saturday?"

Back to Cambuslang wondering why he's so one dimensional.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 26 Nov 2003, 17:38

THIRD FIGHT

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 26 Nov 2003, 17:50

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Mind you, calling Jose Sulaiman a wanker might have squashed his chances a bit.

True. The Daily Star's Steve Lillis called Sulaiman corrupt and nearly copped a left hook after the Brodie-Chi fiasco. From what I hear, Steve Bunce was winding up Lillis to have a go at the WBC President. Typical Buncey.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 26 Nov 2003, 19:12

Lol that little set too was indeed funny, with overweight buffoon Sulaiman trying to get at Lillis shouting "No one calls me corrupt", what is it they say? The truth hurts 8)

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 26 Nov 2003, 19:35

Someone told me about that at the last show I went to at the York hall. allegedly may have his faults as do we all, but Jose Sulaiman is a fat corrupt little fornicator, and a wanker to boot.

Steve Bunce cops a bit of flak from some people, but I think he's pretty good entertainment, I love it when they have Claude and Steve on TV, it's like Laurel and Hardy in reverse, Claude seems to wear this mona-lisa like smirk whenever Steve speaks, but Bunce doesn't even stop to take notice, he's too pumped up by whatever he's talking about at that time.

mrbassie · Post by **mrbassie** » 27 Nov 2003, 03:19

bennie wrote:The trouble with a prospective Brodie-Harrison showdown for the WBC featherweight title, is that Warren has vowed never to have anything to do with the WBC. He will leave himself open for a helluva lot of flak if he suddenly reneges on that vow.

He deserves more flak for targeting those kinder egg belts he loves so much.
Seriously, Harrison's career was Joe Calzaghe mark two in the making before Medina and if he wins on saturday he'll only be back on track to that.
Same with Hatton if he's not careful, Tackie's only coming over because he lost two in a row. These Warren guys have to go across the water to make their mark, the chances of them getting these big fights they want over here are negligable. You can't insist on defending a title at home when it isn't a real title.
Warren's fighters don't go down paths of glory they get regular safe money instead.

mrbassie · Post by **mrbassie** » 27 Nov 2003, 03:20

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Mind you, calling Jose Sulaiman a wanker might have squashed his chances a bit.

did he actually use that word?

Lugh · Post by **Lugh** » 27 Nov 2003, 07:49

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Not in a month of sundays would Warren let Harrison get in the ring with Brodie, well I don't reckon so anyway.

Actually scratch that, if Brodie has a belt, then yeah, otherwise nope.

I think Harrison will end up at lightweight myself.

Yes but can you imagine how average he'll be at Lightweight?

NO power, no speed, being the smaller, weaker man in every fight?

His ONLY chance at World level is at Feather and I fear Manuel will school him again.

Hope not - but will be shocked if Harrison reverses this one.

As for where next?

Sooty is right - up to super-feather for an all Jock grudge match with AAA - he'd lose that too but it might be interesting.

tolstoy · Post by **tolstoy** » 27 Nov 2003, 10:05

The_Power wrote:I agree with bennie.

Harrison must win this fight, if he does not that i believe really, any world ambitions are dead.

However, i cannot see how harrison is going to pull off the victory against the clearly superior Medina, unless larry hazard junior brings his family to judge this time as well.

Medina TKO 10

Other than novices and journeymen Medina has never stopped anyone of any pedigree and I would be astounded if he can even hurt Harrison. I don't know where you get that one from.

My only concern echoes a point Bennie made many posts ago and that is that Medina may have the slick, mobile style to beat Harrison every day of the week. That's a big worry to me.

I would give Harrison a better than decent chance against most other in-your-face fighters but this style exposed his limitations last time out. We will see on Saturday night if he really was ill last time or if, indeed, his one-dimensional style is there to stay.

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 27 Nov 2003, 10:10

Medina is so experienced its frightening. I remember him boxing Boom Boom johnson for the vacant title back in the early 90s on ITV not long after I started watching boxing.

The fact is that he has faced fighters with more then Harrison has in EVRY department. He has seen it all before.

Unless he has grown old over night I see a repeat performance of last time, except Scott maybe awarded a tight verdict this time and the whole of Scotland can breathe a collective sigh of relief.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 27 Nov 2003, 10:19

The best way for Harrison to win, is to practice cutting off the ring, and hammering Medina on the arms, shoulders, ribs, and bring those arms down, it's something of a lost art, but if he does so, then he can really hammer the shite out of him over the last half of the fight.

If Harrison isn't lying and he is going to throw 100 a fight, he needs to make sure he is landing them, if he can keep Medina under pressure he can make him tire on the back foot.

I think Harrison will just nick it, perhaps with the aid of the judges.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 27 Nov 2003, 10:27

jamesmcdonnell wrote: Mind you, calling Jose Sulaiman a wanker might have squashed his chances a bit.

Jose might've thought being called "a wanker" was a British compliment?

Unless frank is bi-lingual and said "Tu me la mamas, Jose" in which case it's WBU all the way baby!

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 27 Nov 2003, 10:29

Harrison-Gomez anyone?

Lugh · Post by **Lugh** » 27 Nov 2003, 10:33

I think some of you guys are showing your naivety here.

You are all underestimating Harrison and forgetting that Monsieur Maloney has already told us that Harrison is "the best fighter ever to have come out of Scotland".

If that is so then what is all the fuss about that Buchanan fellow?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 27 Nov 2003, 11:51

I do think that there is the possibility that Harrison would have more
pop at a higher weight, for a guy who is so big, it seems odd that he has such poor punchpower.

Some fighters do themselves nothing but harm by boiling down, others gain a massive advantage in punchpower. I hear that Harrison trains like a maniac, maybe he's overdoing it?

The_Power · Post by **The_Power** » 27 Nov 2003, 13:01

tolstoy wrote:
The_Power wrote:I agree with bennie.

Harrison must win this fight, if he does not that i believe really, any world ambitions are dead.

However, i cannot see how harrison is going to pull off the victory against the clearly superior Medina, unless larry hazard junior brings his family to judge this time as well.

Medina TKO 10
Other than novices and journeymen Medina has never stopped anyone of any pedigree and I would be astounded if he can even hurt Harrison. I don't know where you get that one from.

With the amount of punches that will be delievered on scotts face, a cut i believe could become a possibility, resulting in the cuts stoppage.

I think i am right in saying that harrison has been stopped on cuts before? so he is no roberto duran in that department.

tolstoy · Post by **tolstoy** » 27 Nov 2003, 13:06

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I do think that there is the possibility that Harrison would have more
pop at a higher weight, for a guy who is so big, it seems odd that he has such poor punchpower.

Some fighters do themselves nothing but harm by boiling down, others gain a massive advantage in punchpower. I hear that Harrison trains like a maniac, maybe he's overdoing it?

I don't think he does lack punching power but he's clearly not a knockout puncher. Never having been hit by him I can't say for sure but I would imagine (and it certainly looks like it when he fights) that every punch he throws he throws with venom. So he hits hard with every punch.

Let's not forget that he stopped Steve Robinson and came close to being the only man to stop Wayne McCullough in the eighth round of his first defence. The accumulation of heavy but not devastating blows caused McCullough to say that he was the strongest fighter he has ever faced.

Why he lacks one-punch power, I don't know. Lack of speed, maybe? Opponent tends to see them coming? Who knows?

Where does Scott Harrison go if he loses again?

Where does Scott Harrison go if he loses again?

No way!

Re: No way!