Slow year for British title fights
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Old bones Ian
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Slow year for British title fights
Almost three quarters of the way through the year , and not many fights have happened for the British titles, out of 14 divisions there have been only 16 fights combined, so is the over abundunce of other titles to blame?
Its not as if we have a load of boxers above British title level.
Heavy, 1 fight
Cruiser, 0 fights
Light Heavy, 2 fights
Super Middle, 1 fight
Middle, 1 fight
Light Middle, 0 fights
Welter 1 fight
Light Welter 3 fights
Light 2 fights
Super Feather 1 fight
Feather 1 fight
super bantam 1 fight
bantam 1 fight
Fly 1 fight
Its not as if we have a load of boxers above British title level.
Heavy, 1 fight
Cruiser, 0 fights
Light Heavy, 2 fights
Super Middle, 1 fight
Middle, 1 fight
Light Middle, 0 fights
Welter 1 fight
Light Welter 3 fights
Light 2 fights
Super Feather 1 fight
Feather 1 fight
super bantam 1 fight
bantam 1 fight
Fly 1 fight
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Max Molyneux
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Re: Slow year for British title fights
Wasn't that like the first Fly bout for at least 3 years?Old bones Ian wrote:Almost three quarters of the way through the year , and not many fights have happened for the British titles, out of 14 divisions there have been only 16 fights combined, so is the over abundunce of other titles to blame?
Its not as if we have a load of boxers above British title level.
Heavy, 1 fight
Cruiser, 0 fights
Light Heavy, 2 fights
Super Middle, 1 fight
Middle, 1 fight
Light Middle, 0 fights
Welter 1 fight
Light Welter 3 fights
Light 2 fights
Super Feather 1 fight
Feather 1 fight
super bantam 1 fight
bantam 1 fight
Fly 1 fight
The weights need changing, people are getting bigger.
Re: Slow year for British title fights
That's probably why the board have introduced Super Flyweight .Max Molyneux wrote:Wasn't that like the first Fly bout for at least 3 years?Old bones Ian wrote:Almost three quarters of the way through the year , and not many fights have happened for the British titles, out of 14 divisions there have been only 16 fights combined, so is the over abundunce of other titles to blame?
Its not as if we have a load of boxers above British title level.
Heavy, 1 fight
Cruiser, 0 fights
Light Heavy, 2 fights
Super Middle, 1 fight
Middle, 1 fight
Light Middle, 0 fights
Welter 1 fight
Light Welter 3 fights
Light 2 fights
Super Feather 1 fight
Feather 1 fight
super bantam 1 fight
bantam 1 fight
Fly 1 fight
The weights need changing, people are getting bigger.
On the horizon we have
1 Super Flyweight(Edwards v Robinson)
1 Featherweight(Simpson v Morris)
1 Welterweight(Anderson v Jones)
1 Bantamweight(Napa v Haskins)
1 Middleweight(Eastman v Elcock)
1 Cruiserweight(Keaton v Hobson)
1 Lightweight (Thaxton v Stewart)
1 Light-Middleweight(Moore v Facey)
1 Super Middleweight(Froch v Reid)
That's 9 by the start of November .
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Old bones Ian
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Max Molyneux
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Re: Slow year for British title fights
I don't see why more weight classes are needed? Just increase the limit of the Original weights.BigEars wrote:That's probably why the board have introduced Super Flyweight .Max Molyneux wrote:Wasn't that like the first Fly bout for at least 3 years?Old bones Ian wrote:Almost three quarters of the way through the year , and not many fights have happened for the British titles, out of 14 divisions there have been only 16 fights combined, so is the over abundunce of other titles to blame?
Its not as if we have a load of boxers above British title level.
Heavy, 1 fight
Cruiser, 0 fights
Light Heavy, 2 fights
Super Middle, 1 fight
Middle, 1 fight
Light Middle, 0 fights
Welter 1 fight
Light Welter 3 fights
Light 2 fights
Super Feather 1 fight
Feather 1 fight
super bantam 1 fight
bantam 1 fight
Fly 1 fight
The weights need changing, people are getting bigger.
On the horizon we have
1 Super Flyweight(Edwards v Robinson)
1 Featherweight(Simpson v Morris)
1 Welterweight(Anderson v Jones)
1 Bantamweight(Napa v Haskins)
1 Middleweight(Eastman v Elcock)
1 Cruiserweight(Keaton v Hobson)
1 Lightweight (Thaxton v Stewart)
1 Light-Middleweight(Moore v Facey)
1 Super Middleweight(Froch v Reid)
That's 9 by the start of November .
Then we wouldn't have so many cheating dry outs at weigh Ins.
IDO
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sweetscience
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Re: Slow year for British title fights
Well do you expect them to increase the weights just in the UK(never gonna happen) or Worldwide(never gonna happen) , people in the western world may have gotten bigger but there are still a lot of people from Eastern Asia and parts of Latin America that are quite small and still require those small divisions . There would be uproar over changing the weight of Flyweight(112) aswell as it is the smallest of the traditional divisions .Max Molyneux wrote:I don't see why more weight classes are needed? Just increase the limit of the Original weights.BigEars wrote:That's probably why the board have introduced Super Flyweight .Max Molyneux wrote: Wasn't that like the first Fly bout for at least 3 years?
The weights need changing, people are getting bigger.
On the horizon we have
1 Super Flyweight(Edwards v Robinson)
1 Featherweight(Simpson v Morris)
1 Welterweight(Anderson v Jones)
1 Bantamweight(Napa v Haskins)
1 Middleweight(Eastman v Elcock)
1 Cruiserweight(Keaton v Hobson)
1 Lightweight (Thaxton v Stewart)
1 Light-Middleweight(Moore v Facey)
1 Super Middleweight(Froch v Reid)
That's 9 by the start of November .
Then we wouldn't have so many cheating dry outs at weigh Ins.
IDO
Here are the divisions ranked by how many fighters are in them(starting with the highest(:
Welterweight
Lightweight
Light-Welterweight
Heavyweight
Light-Middleweight
Featherweight
Middleweight
Super Featherweight
Cruiserweight
Super Bantamweight
Super Middleweight
Bantamweight
Light-Heavyweight
Flyweight
Super Flyweight
Light-Flyweight
Minimumweight
Now obviously enough there the 4 lowest weights are the 4 smallest ones but the problem there is too many divisions in too close a weigh range .
I think eliminating the current minimumweight(105) division and re-naming what is currently Light-Flyweight(108) to minimumweight .
This would obviously make things harder for current minimumweight fighters to compete but considering that Minimumweight has the least amount of fighters in it currently and that the 3 lb gap although a big difference for men their size isn't unsurmountable .
After all Calderon a very small minimumweight(the guy could probably make 100 lbs without too much difficulty ) beat an absolutely huge Light-Flyweight while both were considered the best in their divisions(although some could argue Solis is a better Light-Flyweight) .
This would bring is to a much more satisfactory 16 weight divisions and bring more attention to the lower weights .
Anything more dramatic could never be implemented as the sanctioning bodies want to maintain all those sanctioning fees that keep them rich .
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Max Molyneux
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DavidPayne
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No more so than bigger fighters at higher weightsMax Molyneux wrote:Good point about the latin and Asians being smaller. Don't most latins and asians go through extreme weight making regimes to make those small weights though?
How Is 3lbs a big gap?
3 lbs for such a small man is like the equivalent of 5 lbs(the difference between Lightweight and Light-Welterweight) for bigger men . Granted percentage wise it's not quite as big but you have to factor in that as men get smaller it means more and when they get bigger it means less(which is why a 20lb weight advantage might mean nothing at heavyweight) .
If you weigh 7 1/2 stone , 3 lbs is quite a bit of weight .