Has allegedly closed British Eastside?

Grey · Post by **Grey** » 26 Nov 2003, 22:54

Heh, fitting.

Anways, I remember at one point that 'Warren' was bleeped out on the messageboards. Hey Frank, if you don't like what people say about you, then don't read it. I bet he doesn't have a pair to try and shut down the board of a rival boxer promoter (our own JohnShep). It's the internet Frank, deal with it.

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 27 Nov 2003, 01:56

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I fail to see what lawsuit would stand up in court that would prevent
a writer or contributor to a forum from criticising a fighter, that's
complete cobblers.

Unfortunately it's not. Our favourite promoter can claim he's being defamed if something is written that in his opinion is not fair, balanced and accurate regarding either him as an individual or his business activities.
I think the most likely scenario is that he's using his financial muscle. If Eastside receive letters from lawyers threatening legal action, they might feel they can mount a defence, but have to balance that with the costs involved - the promoter obviously has far deeper pockets.
This can therefore be a very intimidating tactic and can lead websites to take the easy route out by losing the forum, rather than risk getting into a potentially costly legal battle that could mean them going out of business.
Classic 'bully-boy' tactics.

scurlaruntings · Post by **scurlaruntings** » 27 Nov 2003, 06:39

this doesnt detract from the fact that warren is a total ass hole!!

already threads concerning the british forum have been deleted.who the fcuk does he think he is STALIN!!!

scurlaruntings · Post by **scurlaruntings** » 27 Nov 2003, 06:40

Hollow Man wrote:
scurlaruntings wrote:
Hayabusa wrote:Well at least i dont have to put up with that c*nt Spud anymore, im sure in his own mind he thought he was running British Boxing, how can anyone get such an ego from carrying boxes around for Mick Hennessy anyway?.
I was wondering when Fr*nk W*rren would stick his beak into Eastside, little shit.
spud does have his own dillusional ego but hey id rather spud than FW shut dnw eastside brtish forum
Why, do you like to have the piss ripped out of you by his made up characters?

i enjoy the british forum we talk sense about british boxing.if spud wants to go on a power trip let him..i tolerate him cos i like british eastside..n id much rather him than FW use his so called financial n military might to make his stamp on british boxing into a dictatorship

Lightweight · Post by **Lightweight** » 27 Nov 2003, 07:06

Well, What a load of Shite.

Firstly, I Can't believe that the "Owners" of eastside didnt bother to tell people that the forum would be taken off. I Mean what a bunch of pussies. People visit theier site giving it maximum coverage and exposure and then get shiited on from a great height.

Secondly, I dont see any of of promoting "peers"

setting up forums to give people a voice. All certain groups are to me are a bunch of twatts who can't take a bit of a bashing without seeing their arses over it.

But, Of Course, I dont know who got it shut down so can't direct my thoughts at the group OR individual responsible. The bad guy always hides in this situation in order to hide what a pussy he/she really is while hoping not to be officially revelaed as the one who shit on the people he needs.

" A Free Country " - I think not. :x :x :x

Lugh · Post by **Lugh** » 27 Nov 2003, 07:09

scurlaruntings wrote:
Hollow Man wrote:
scurlaruntings wrote:spud does have his own dillusional ego but hey id rather spud than FW shut dnw eastside brtish forum
Why, do you like to have the piss ripped out of you by his made up characters?
i enjoy the british forum we talk sense about british boxing.if spud wants to go on a power trip let him..i tolerate him cos i like british eastside..n id much rather him than FW use his so called financial n military might to make his stamp on british boxing into a dictatorship

Does this mean we get ALL of the Eastside lot?

Gutted - this always seemed a more thoughtful, informed site.

thepocketrocket · Post by **thepocketrocket** » 27 Nov 2003, 07:11

Im here!! With any luck Don Beech and DG will follow

Lugh · Post by **Lugh** » 27 Nov 2003, 07:13

thepocketrocket wrote:Im here!! With any luck Don Beech and DG will follow

Chester-based Plastics are always welcome -Don Bitch on the other hand........................................

scurlaruntings · Post by **scurlaruntings** » 27 Nov 2003, 07:13

Lugh wrote:
scurlaruntings wrote:
Hollow Man wrote: Why, do you like to have the piss ripped out of you by his made up characters?
i enjoy the british forum we talk sense about british boxing.if spud wants to go on a power trip let him..i tolerate him cos i like british eastside..n id much rather him than FW use his so called financial n military might to make his stamp on british boxing into a dictatorship
Does this mean we get ALL of the Eastside lot?

Gutted - this always seemed a more thoughtful, informed site.

dnt worry as long as u dnt get the nutters from the general forum boxrec will be ok

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 27 Nov 2003, 07:17

Yes I noticed our fav promoter's name started appearing as ****** in the last few days.
Would he prefer we didn't talk about his fighters at all?! There wasn't even anything that terrible being said last time I looked - just watch, he'll have his sights set on boxrec before long...bloody terrible news really.

thepocketrocket · Post by **thepocketrocket** » 27 Nov 2003, 07:17

I just hope boxrec doesnt go down the swanny, some posters should be screened before they come on here if you know what I mean

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 27 Nov 2003, 07:22

We're like aslyum-seekers!
Is Big, bad Fr**k going to track us down here as well :(

scurlaruntings · Post by **scurlaruntings** » 27 Nov 2003, 07:23

bridgie boy wrote:We're like aslyum-seekers!
Is Big, bad Fr**k going to track us down here as well :(

i believe he more than likely already has

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 27 Nov 2003, 07:33

Personally I think it's now time to bring this to the attention of the media.

It happened at Britishboxing.co.uk, then the British forum of Secondsout.com and now it appears at ESB.

Surely if enough of us write to the likes of Boxing New, Boxing Monthly, and newspapers explaining the outrageous censorship that is going on the world of boxing it could make for an interesting story?

I for one have had enough of it, I think we all know what has happened and I think it's diabolical....

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 27 Nov 2003, 07:37

scurlaruntings wrote:
bridgie boy wrote:We're like aslyum-seekers!
Is Big, bad Fr**k going to track us down here as well :(
i believe he more than likely already has

Benny (or anyone else who knows for that matter),
How do I change my name, as I'd like to use Deserter, which is what I used on eastside?
Has this site also been contacted by the Sports Network brigade?

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 27 Nov 2003, 07:44

Goz wrote:Personally I think it's now time to bring this to the attention of the media.

It happened at Britishboxing.co.uk, then the British forum of Secondsout.com and now it appears at ESB.

Surely if enough of us write to the likes of Boxing New, Boxing Monthly, and newspapers explaining the outrageous censorship that is going on the world of boxing it could make for an interesting story?

I for one have had enough of it, I think we all know what has happened and I think it's diabolical....

I agree mate, but when I put up a post almost identical to yours in the lounge on Eastside it was deleted within minutes. I mailed them asking why, as I'd been careful not to make any legally unsafe comments, but I still haven't had a reply.
For what it's worth, I've mailed letters to Claude Abrams at Boxing News and Doug Fischer at MaxBoxing.com and asked them to publicise the issue as it has news value. I've also asked them to get Warren's side of the story as it would make their story more balanced and would also help us understand why he's taken this action.
The irony is that if he or some of his team came on to answer the type of criticisms that led to the site closing, he could have turned the whole thing into a positive PR exercise rather than a negative one - just look at the response the likes of David Haye got, even from his critics. This was because he earned their respect by his willingness to converse with them and to 'tell it like it is'. Whoever handles Warren's PR isn't doing a good job at all, and this sort of action can only create more bad press and bad feeling.
Somebody should try and get hold of the likes of Hugh McIllveny (he was writing for The Times), who is never afraid to tackle issues like this.

TrueBrit · Post by **TrueBrit** » 27 Nov 2003, 07:45

Hayabusa wrote:Well at least i dont have to put up with that c*nt Spud anymore, im sure in his own mind he thought he was running British Boxing, how can anyone get such an ego from carrying boxes around for Mick Hennessy anyway?.
I was wondering when Fr*nk W*rren would stick his beak into Eastside, little shit.

Amen to that, power hungry Spud is one person's posts I won't miss reading.

Don't think the mods should let him post on here if he tries, that guy is just trouble, as well as being an arrogant pr*ck. Wonder how arrogant he'll be without his modorating powers.

BYE BYE SPUD!

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 27 Nov 2003, 07:52

I just posted this question on a well known promoters website, addressed to a boxer we all know and love....

"Hi Joe,

Big dissapointment about your next fight falling through, better luck and more fights for 2004!

I have a question. As a world champion boxer do you think the censorship of British boxing fans on websites is a good thing?

During the last 12-18 months a number of British boxing forums have been closed down, forums which were becoming the voice of the boxing public and a place for fans to gather and discuss current issues including fighters such as yourself and Ricky Hatton.

Sometimes you guys get criticism and sometimes you get praise, do you think the closing down of these forums by an as yet unknown source is a bad thing for the sport?

Many thanks, James."

Lugh · Post by **Lugh** » 27 Nov 2003, 07:57

Goz wrote:I just posted this question on a well known promoters website, addressed to a boxer we all know and love....

"Hi Joe,

Big dissapointment about your next fight falling through, better luck and more fights for 2004!

I have a question. As a world champion boxer do you think the censorship of British boxing fans on websites is a good thing?

During the last 12-18 months a number of British boxing forums have been closed down, forums which were becoming the voice of the boxing public and a place for fans to gather and discuss current issues including fighters such as yourself and Ricky Hatton.

Sometimes you guys get criticism and sometimes you get praise, do you think the closing down of these forums by an as yet unknown source is a bad thing for the sport?

Many thanks, James."

It's a perfectly reasonable question, ........................................................Which is why there is no chance on earth it will get answered.

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 27 Nov 2003, 07:58

Goz wrote:I just posted this question on a well known promoters website, addressed to a boxer we all know and love....

"Hi Joe,

Big dissapointment about your next fight falling through, better luck and more fights for 2004!

I have a question. As a world champion boxer do you think the censorship of British boxing fans on websites is a good thing?

During the last 12-18 months a number of British boxing forums have been closed down, forums which were becoming the voice of the boxing public and a place for fans to gather and discuss current issues including fighters such as yourself and Ricky Hatton.

Sometimes you guys get criticism and sometimes you get praise, do you think the closing down of these forums by an as yet unknown source is a bad thing for the sport?

Many thanks, James."

Good stuff.

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 27 Nov 2003, 08:05

Well it's a case of Karma for Spud i think.

What goes around, comes around, and that halfwit acted like a total tw*t during my brief time on British Eastside. Frankly, I'm glad that Hennessy driven vehicle is off the road.

doggyland · Post by **doggyland** » 27 Nov 2003, 08:12

Loftgroov wrote:Well it's a case of Karma for Spud i think.

What goes around, comes around, and that halfwit acted like a total tw*t during my brief time on British Eastside. Frankly, I'm glad that Hennessy driven vehicle is off the road.

Maybe it was the blatant Hennessy nut hugging that made FW think, i'll show you Spuddy old chap!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 27 Nov 2003, 08:12

Loftgroov wrote:Well it's a case of Karma for Spud i think.

What goes around, comes around, and that halfwit acted like a total tw*t during my brief time on British Eastside. Frankly, I'm glad that Hennessy driven vehicle is off the road.

Fair enough but it's not just Spud who loses out from that forum being closed. The problem is now Boxrec's. The vast majority of posters will drift over, the same topics and views will no doubt resurface. It's essential we get to the bottom of why the British Eastside forum was pulled otherwise people will experience similar headaches here.

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 27 Nov 2003, 08:16

Yes but people are more respected here Lightsoot and, no disrespect, but luckily you are not a moderator here.

Spud was appalling in the way he conducted that forum, and the daft mentality that was prevelant at BE has never been the case here that I have seen.

Boxrec doesn't seem to generally lean towards a certain promoter (unlike British Eastside) and everyones views are noted and respected here.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 27 Nov 2003, 08:19

well i dont know what to think,

what about the eastide adwards and prediction league,

i wait for a offical annoucment before i post in detial, like i have ever done that before :P