Quiz: Quickest KOs Ever?

Ric · Post by **Ric** » 27 Nov 2003, 21:03

What are the two quickest knockout victories in professional boxing history? I think I know the answer, but I wanna hear what others know.

Sweet Scientist · Post by **Sweet Scientist** » 27 Nov 2003, 21:13

Jim Flynn KO'd Jack Dempsey 10 seconds into the fight (1917) according to boxrec archives...is that one you're thinking of?

Holyfield Headbutt · Post by **Holyfield Headbutt** » 27 Nov 2003, 22:19

I hear Peter McNeeley has a 6-second KO under his belt.

Micky K · Post by **Micky K** » 28 Nov 2003, 00:46

Jimmy Thunder KOed Crawford Grimsley with the first punch of the fight.

I just checked Boxrec's archives and its reported as 13 seconds. I doubt that!! Unless Boxrec is including the 10 count.

From my memory it would have been no longer then 3 seconds and Crawford was out like a light.

Jimmy Thunder had a punch comparable to David Tua's, its a pity their respective chins werent comparable.

Ric · Post by **Ric** » 28 Nov 2003, 00:52

Nope, nope, and nope. At least from my research, that is. The two KOs I am thinking of occurred at 0:12 of the first round.

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 28 Nov 2003, 01:46

to the best of my recollection the jimmy thunder kayo included the ten second count. it was so soon that the camera hadn't even moved if for its close up....and the kayo was then showed a couple of times from another angler.

i'm really interested in the answer to this one..as in the old ring record books there were times listed as short at eleven seconds..including the ten count. this strikes me as possible only taking into consideration that the timekeeper started the count before the punch was even landed.

whatever....my first paragraph brings up one of my biggest gripes in televised fights....that of the camera being way back and then moving in too slowly for the close up. seen most in ppv fights...i guess they want to hype how much better the tv view is than that of the "in person" cheaper seats. but..there are kayos like the ones discussed here. also it's informative to see exactly how the fighters come out of their corner when the bell rings.

barry · Post by **barry** » 28 Nov 2003, 02:13

There have been several proclaimed knockouts under 10 seconds, especially prior to 1940 that I've read about in one source, or another. I believe Al Foreman, who fought in the 20s & 30s had a knockout that was listed as 0:01 1/2, or something like that as well as a couple more under 10, but I have read any newspaper articles on said bouts, Al Foreman did have over 80 career knockouts though and had a brutal punch.

barry · Post by **barry** » 28 Nov 2003, 02:16

"but I have read any newspaper"

I meant that I haven't read any articles on the bouts.

tolstoy · Post by **tolstoy** » 28 Nov 2003, 07:23

Nicky Piper knocked down John Ellis in their 1990 fight and the fight was over at the 12 second mark.

This, I believe, is the quickest victory in a British ring.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 28 Nov 2003, 07:32

tolstoy wrote:Nicky Piper knocked down John Ellis in their 1990 fight and the fight was over at the 12 second mark.

This, I believe, is the quickest victory in a British ring.

Yeah I was thinking of that one too - I think the poor guy stuck out his arm to touch gloves, and Piper immediately knocked him flat with a right cross! That's manners for you...

There was some boxer from years ago who flew across the ring at the 1st bell, planning on nailing his unsuspecting opponent early, only for his opponent to neatly side-step him - leaving the happless boxer to crash into the corner stool ( still being taken out of the ring ) and promtly knocking hinself cold - Doh!! That was one of the fastest knockouts too.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 28 Nov 2003, 08:32

james warring iced the usually durable james pritchard in a few seconds in a cruiserweight title fight... this is pritchard who back then could mix with big, heavy handed heavies but folded from a cruisers right hand!

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 28 Nov 2003, 08:42

Fastest KO's in world title boxing are:

0:19 Daniel Jiminez v Harold Geier 03/09/1994 Super-bantamweight
0:24 James Warring v James Pritchard 06/09/1991 Cruiserweight
0:24 Bernard Hopkins v Steve Frank 27/01/1996 Middleweight
0:30 Gerald McClellan v Jay Bell 06/08/1993 Middleweight
0:35 Naseem Hamed v Said Lawal 16/03/1996 Featherweight
0:45 Al McCoy v George Chip 07/04/1914 Middleweight
0:45 Lloyd Honeyghan v Gene Hatcher 30/08/1987 Welterweight
0:50 Julian Jackson v Ismael Negron 15/02/1992 Middleweight
0:51 Jose Luis Lopez v Eamonn Loughran 13/04/1996 Welterweight
0:52 Herbie Hide v Damon Reed 18/04/1998 Heavyweight
0:54 Mark Breland v Seung-Soon Lee 04/02/1989 Welterweight
0:58 Emile Pladner v Frankie Genaro 02/03/1929 Flyweight
1:01 Bobby Czyz v David Sears 26/12/1986 Light-Heavyweight
1:01 Jackie Paterson v Peter Kane 19/06/1943 Flyweight
1:03 Michael Dokes v Mike Weaver 10/12/1982 Heavyweight
1:06 Tony Canzoneri v Al Singer 14/11/1930 Lightweight
1:07 Marvin Hagler v William Caveman Lee 07/03/1982 Middleweight
1:10 Ricardo Lopez v Yamil Caraballo 10/12/1994 Strawweight
1:15 Terry McGovern v Pedlar Palmer 12/09/1899 Bantamweight
1:20 Al Hostak v Eric Seelig 11/12/1939 Middleweight

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 28 Nov 2003, 09:28

I wish I could remember the details, but there was one fight where one of the fighters slipped on his way into the ring through the ropes, and I think he knocked himself out on the ring apron or a stool or something.

Ric · Post by **Ric** » 28 Nov 2003, 13:07

Well, I don't know whether these two still hold the record, but at the time they were the quickest in history, with the KO punch being delivered two seconds into the fight:
The April 5, 1902 Battling Nelson-William Rossler bout.
The Dec. 18, 1915 Billy Weeks-Romeo Hagen bout. (This one had two timekeepers who both independently corroborated the time.)

Broncano · Post by **Broncano** » 28 Nov 2003, 13:38

On 05-30 of this year Gabriel Torres http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=046846 knocked out Gabriel Krizan in 12 seconds.

Krizan raised his arm to touch gloves and Torres hit him with a brutal shot, knocking him out. Krizan had to be carried off unconscious on a stretcher.

lamphey · Post by **lamphey** » 28 Nov 2003, 17:27

bennie wrote:Fastest KO's in world title boxing are:

0:19 Daniel Jiminez v Harold Geier 03/09/1994 Super-bantamweight
0:24 James Warring v James Pritchard 06/09/1991 Cruiserweight
0:24 Bernard Hopkins v Steve Frank 27/01/1996 Middleweight
0:30 Gerald McClellan v Jay Bell 06/08/1993 Middleweight
0:35 Naseem Hamed v Said Lawal 16/03/1996 Featherweight
0:45 Al McCoy v George Chip 07/04/1914 Middleweight
0:45 Lloyd Honeyghan v Gene Hatcher 30/08/1987 Welterweight
0:50 Julian Jackson v Ismael Negron 15/02/1992 Middleweight
0:51 Jose Luis Lopez v Eamonn Loughran 13/04/1996 Welterweight
0:52 Herbie Hide v Damon Reed 18/04/1998 Heavyweight
0:54 Mark Breland v Seung-Soon Lee 04/02/1989 Welterweight
0:58 Emile Pladner v Frankie Genaro 02/03/1929 Flyweight
1:01 Bobby Czyz v David Sears 26/12/1986 Light-Heavyweight
1:01 Jackie Paterson v Peter Kane 19/06/1943 Flyweight
1:03 Michael Dokes v Mike Weaver 10/12/1982 Heavyweight
1:06 Tony Canzoneri v Al Singer 14/11/1930 Lightweight
1:07 Marvin Hagler v William Caveman Lee 07/03/1982 Middleweight
1:10 Ricardo Lopez v Yamil Caraballo 10/12/1994 Strawweight
1:15 Terry McGovern v Pedlar Palmer 12/09/1899 Bantamweight
1:20 Al Hostak v Eric Seelig 11/12/1939 Middleweight

Not a KO but worth a mention is Genaro Hernandez retaining his Super-Feather title against Raul Perez back in the early 90's on a TD after a clash of heads. Time was around 28 seconds of the first round.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 28 Nov 2003, 18:39

I once saw Nigel Benn spring out of his corner and flatten Ian Chantler with his first punch of the fight. That can't have lasted long, though obviously longer than two seconds. Two seconds!!

lamphey · Post by **lamphey** » 28 Nov 2003, 19:05

How about 'Ducky' Rees. According to Boxrec the quickest recorded knockout in boxing history.

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=027636

Anybody know what happened to Rees?

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 28 Nov 2003, 19:15

lamphey wrote:Anybody know what happened to Rees?

Wow, four seconds. The referee, I assume, waved it off with poor Des Sowden out cold.
As for your question, Lamphey: such a long gap between fights, as there is between the man's first five fights and then his sensationally quick win, normally suggests a spell in jail. His total disappearance, of course, suggests another long sentence. I hope I'm wrong.

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 28 Nov 2003, 21:00

i think tommy burns had a one minute first round kayo over bill squires in a title match.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 29 Nov 2003, 07:08

I was in Marbella for the Honeyghan/Hatcher 45 second knockout. It was in an open air bull ring and was postponed for a day, due to an electrical lightstorm.
Should've been even quicker, as Hatcher was "out" when he got up from the knockdown, but the ref let it go on till Honey himself stopped it, by turning away after battering an unconcious Hatcher, propped up on the ropes - then the ref stepped in.

Worth the wait? Hmmmm well my mate didn't think so - first ( and last! ) time he ever went to a fight.
He turned to me and said "Is that it?!"

Marciano Frazier · Post by **Marciano Frazier** » 29 Nov 2003, 16:11

Dempsey KO'd Fred Fulton in 8 seconds.

barry · Post by **barry** » 29 Nov 2003, 16:28

Dempsey knocked out Fulton in 18 seconds, actually recorded as "0:18.5."

Dutch Windmill · Post by **Dutch Windmill** » 29 Nov 2003, 18:59

Angel torres - Gabriel Krizan
"Krizan flattened as he attempted to touch gloves with Torres. KO @ :12 (inluding 10 seconds for the count!) Unofficial Foxwoods Record - Krizan taken out on stretcher."

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 29 Nov 2003, 22:22

I've never read what the recorded time was in the famous (then) fight when Billy Papke kayoed stanley ketchell when he reached out to touch gloves at the beginning of the fight, but it had to be very short.

at the time the fighters touched gloves when they came out of their corners when the bell rang. this fight had much to do with the change...of having the referee instruct the fighters to touch gloves after the instructions right before they walked back to their corners to wait for the bell.