Ben Tackie...help needed

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:28

Ben Tackie lost by scores of 119-108, 120-108 and 120-108 to Kostya Tszyu in their world title fight last year.
And he lost by scores of 118-109, 119-108 and 119-108 in his 12-rounder with Sharmba Mitchell earlier this year. Out of the 24 rounds, how many did he actually win? I have a bit of a blind spot when it comes to working out things like this. Hope you can help.

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:31

Hmm...looks like he struggled to win a round!!

(Implying Hatton could outbox him fairly easily, and should avoid being drawn in. But then...thats not Hatton's style eh...)

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:33

Wel it's a 10 point must system yeah, so going of that logic, it looks like he won 1 round against Tszyu.

Against Mitchell he won 1 round and shared 3.

Pretty sure thats right.

Actually how can we have a 119-108 card? That aint right is it?

The_Power · Post by **The_Power** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:33

bennie wrote:Ben Tackie lost by scores of 119-108, 120-108 and 120-108 to Kostya Tszyu in their world title fight last year.
And he lost by scores of of 118-109, 119-108 and 119-108 in his 12-rounder with Sharmba Mitchell earlier this year. Out of the 24 rounds, how many did he actually win? I have a bit of a blind spot when it comes to working out things like this. Hope you can help.

i believe that against tszyu he won

1 tied round on one card, and none on the others.

against mitchell

1 on the first card.
none on the second or third.

I believe that is how it is worked out.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:35

Yeah I know what you mean Bennie. It's too much of a hassle to sit down and work out.

Ian Darke is the man to ask. He loves coming out with his lighting quick "3 rounds to 2 and one even is how referee Dave Parris saw that one" as soon as the decision is announced.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:37

Well, if you score 108 then you haven't won a round. So then...

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:39

But if a round is classed as a draw, aint it scored 10-10?

Ahh fornicate it, it's hurting me head already :)

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:40

How can you score 119-108? One of the rounds would have to be scored 9-9 wouldn't it?

Oh hang on, the knockdown...

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:42

But Tszyu didn't score a knockdown only Mitchell did. But Tszyu still got a 119-108, how was that?

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:42

Bring back the old 'Rounds' scoring system!

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:46

I'm waiting for some real clever twat to give us all a first class explanation.

I bet they're busy scribbling away right now. Who's it gonna be?

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:48

Kilburn - was in the middle of typing a response but didn't want to be referred to as a smart @rse after reading your last post!

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:48

Kilburn wrote:But Tszyu didn't score a knockdown only Mitchell did. But Tszyu still got a 119-108, how was that?

fornicate knows??

mrbassie · Post by **mrbassie** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:48

Kilburn wrote:But Tszyu didn't score a knockdown only Mitchell did. But Tszyu still got a 119-108, how was that?

Impossible, must've been the same judge that did Brodie-Chi

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:51

To get 119-108 in the Tszyu fight there must have been a 10-10 round, but another round must've been scored 10-8 because the champ was dominating so well.

I reckon.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:52

But that still doesn't work. How did Tszyu lose a point off 120 if Tackie didn't get 10 points in any of the rounds?

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:54

Kilburn wrote:But that still doesn't work. How did Tszyu lose a point off 120 if Tackie didn't get 10 points in any of the rounds?

did tackie lose a point somewhere?? making a 10-9 round to him a 9-9 round????

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:54

Loynesy wrote:Kilburn - was in the middle of typing a response but didn't want to be referred to as a smart @rse after reading your last post!

Hey mate enlighten us please!

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:54

knockout wrote:did tackie lose a point somewhere?? making a 10-9 round to him a 9-9 round????

Could be, could very well be...

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:57

Loynesy wrote:Kilburn - was in the middle of typing a response but didn't want to be referred to as a smart @rse after reading your last post!

loynsey: (matt k from boxing monthly here)

enlighten us you damn smart ass :-)

how you doing anyway??? york hall and a curry with Goz is long overdue!!!

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:59

Lets just agree that Tackie can be outboxed......easily..!

Not Hattons style, though.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 02 Dec 2003, 12:59

This is turning into a genuinely amusing thread. I've just checked Graham Houston's report of the Tszyu-Tackie fight in Boxing Monthly (I know what you're thinking: why didn't I do that beforehand!) and all is revealed for that one, but I still need to know about the Mitchell fight.
Here's the link, by the way:
http://www.boxing-monthly.co.uk/content/0206/one.htm

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 02 Dec 2003, 13:00

DG. wrote:Lets just agree that Tackie can be outboxed......easily..!

Not Hattons style, though.

http://www.lasvegassun.com

In another fight in which the obvious loser scored a last-round knock down, the pay-per-view commenced with Gregorio Vargas (39-6-1, 28) cruising to an easy victory over Ben Tackie (18-1, 11) to fill the vacant WBC Continental lightweight title. Vargas won with one score of 117-110 and two scores of 116-111.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 02 Dec 2003, 13:01

This is boxing nerdism at it's finest.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 02 Dec 2003, 13:03

Kilburn wrote:This is boxing nerdism at it's finest.

i am just putting my anorak on as we speak

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