EASTMAN/ELCOCK FRIDAY

GlobalBox · Post by **GlobalBox** » 24 Sep 2007, 03:55

Views on this from anyone. Eastman on all known form wins this comforatably so they tell us but I have a hunch this could be much harder than he and others feel. If he relies too much on just bombing out Elcock I can see the brummie nicking rounds here and there and if he is still standing at the end it could be pretty close.

Not sure how much Howard wants it now, still think he is capable of upping his game at times but strangely this may be only when he is under pressure of hurt.

If Wayne is fiddling his way through nicking points and covering well not sure Eastman will be sufficiently threatened to do anything but plod forward and through the jab and odd combo and if this goes 12 that might not be enough.

Now I know we have some Elcock fans on here who can give there view but anyone in general got any thoughts, intriguing fight, shame its not on tv.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 24 Sep 2007, 04:17

Wayne appears very focussed on this fight.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 24 Sep 2007, 04:21

Eastman hasn't been impressive in his last couple of fights, he seems content to just do enough in fights, which has been a critisism of him for a number of years. He now seems to throw alot of pitter pat punches, plus also he hasn't fought a genuine Middle for a couple of years, both Williams and Ashira were blown up light middles.

Elcock is a genuine middle, and has good skills, but needs to believe in himself more He was well beat when facing Scott Dann the last time he stepped up a level.

If Elcock is on top of his game and Eastman is fighting within himself then Elcock might be able to squeeze a points win. But Eastman will again start favourite, he'll probably do enough to win on points, or if he does decide to impress a stoppage in 10

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 24 Sep 2007, 04:33

Elcock is a bluenose! That tells you all you need to know right there..

Mad Dog to win going away

BCFC SOTV

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 24 Sep 2007, 04:51

Brummie Wayne Elcock challenges Londoner Howard Eastman for the British middleweight title at the SkyDome in Coventry on Friday.
Elcock has won three on the spin since he was outscored for the same belt by hard-hitting Scott Dann in Plymouth in September 2005 (the first British title fight scored with three judges). They include a revenge stoppage of Scot Lawrence Murphy in five rounds (a man who once crushed him in 148 seconds) and an eight-round stoppage of perennial contender Steve Bendall for the English middleweight title last time out in December. Stylish Wayne, the mandatory challenger, looks to be hitting hard and needs to show more fire against Eastman than he did against Dann, in what was a dreary encounter.
At 33, this amounts to what could be his last chance.
So to Eastman, a consummate boxer-puncher who won the title (vacated by Dann) with a 12-round stoppage of Stockwell's Richard Williams at York Hall in December, a fight he could probably have won earlier. And he looked poor outscoring Kenyan Evans Ashira for the Commonwealth belt in little Dudley Town Hall four months later.
A former two-time world title challenger and European champ, 36-year-old Howard struggles to get 'up' for lesser fights these days. He cleared a million dollars challenging Bernard Hopkins for the undisputed middleweight crown in February 2005 in Los Angeles (outpointed) and then lost world class match-ups to Arthur Abraham and Edison Miranda, for which he was also paid handsomely. His attitude in the build-up to Ashira was so "Who cares?", Sky Sports (ponces) decided not to screen this fight.
So Elcock will really fancy his chances on his own Midlands turf. The former BT engineer has lost only to Murphy and Dann in 19 fights and proved his character in that rematch with Murphy, who was down three times. Wayne punches well, boxes well, moves well and takes a punch well (Murphy stunner apart, but Dann was no slouch). One of those complete fighters.
It adds up to a difficult assignment for Eastman - a demotivated Eastman. If the Battersea Bomber turns up, there can only be one winner. Howard, who has never been floored, has lost only to William Joppy, Hopkins, Abraham and Miranda in 46 outings (only Miranda stopped him), so he's never lost to a British fighter. Smooth and spiteful-hitting, he stopped respective opponent Dann in three rounds in 2003 and it's hard to ignore his stoppage of Williams nine months ago, a slick, stiff-hitting operator with plenty of experience - just like Elcock. Eastman took his time, broke Williams up and (finally) took him out.
Much the same scenario looks likely on Friday.

ciscokid · Post by **ciscokid** » 24 Sep 2007, 07:49

I hope that Elcock turns up for a scrap - this could be a good war for a few rounds, but i suspect Elcock will try to play some chess match and just get turned over by Eastman.

It seems that this bout was announced years ago - i had totally forgotten about it!

On the same weekend as Pavlik v Taylor, Eastman could have potentially been there... if only..

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 24 Sep 2007, 08:02

Eastman is showing signs that he's ready to be knocked off his perch, but it will still take an exceptional British boxer to do this or someone who has exceptional effort in them and I don't think Elcock's either.

Looking forward to this one despite the potential style clash.

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 24 Sep 2007, 08:05

GLOBALBOX wrote:...shame its not on tv.

You're shitting me? I was looking forward to this one!

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 24 Sep 2007, 08:19

Shit you not, Sky knocked it back. They also allegedly knocked back Vuma Moore, instead opting for Facey Moore. Makes you wonder doesnt it.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 24 Sep 2007, 08:19

Sky didn't want to show Eastman because of his dreadful fight against Ashira.

Man he did suck against Ashira.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 24 Sep 2007, 08:57

Wales wrote:Shit you not, Sky knocked it back. They also allegedly knocked back Vuma Moore, instead opting for Facey Moore. Makes you wonder doesnt it.

Wasn't it that they knocked back Vuma-Morre, leading to Vuma-Thompson?

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 24 Sep 2007, 08:59

Wales wrote:Shit you not, Sky knocked it back. They also allegedly knocked back Vuma Moore, instead opting for Facey Moore. Makes you wonder doesnt it.

I think they're showing the Arce fight on Friday instead. Wtf! Week and a half old tape of a Mexican bantamweight Vs a journeyman, or a big domestic fight, live. What would you rather watch?

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 24 Sep 2007, 09:04

oliverfennell wrote:
Wales wrote:Shit you not, Sky knocked it back. They also allegedly knocked back Vuma Moore, instead opting for Facey Moore. Makes you wonder doesnt it.
Wasn't it that they knocked back Vuma-Morre, leading to Vuma-Thompson?

No, jamie was injured in the week before the contest, Thompson took the fight at 6 days notice first time round. The fight was due to be for the WBC international title and Im pretty sure the WBC said they'd sanction Moore Vuma (this time) as a title eliminator eliminator (if that makes sense). Sky refused and instead agreed Facey Moore.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 24 Sep 2007, 09:07

Once Moore was injured it promoted the Napa v Booth match to top of the bill , with Vuma on the undercard.

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 24 Sep 2007, 09:19

Howard will stop Elcock early,just to prove a point, he can destroy Elcock - too powerful for him.

Also, as someone said, WTF are sky doing shoring us that Arce fight?

I am not going out of my way to watch that, Eastmann Vs Elcock is much better - bit great - but is is British Title FFS.

Podmore_Birmingham · Post by **Podmore_Birmingham** » 24 Sep 2007, 09:22

I think Eastman wins on points, probably takes over in commanding fashion after six or seven rounds. Like Bennie pointed out, its likely to be a similar scenario to that of the Richard Williams fight.

Tom Podmore

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 24 Sep 2007, 09:23

Yes does seem a bit strange that there is no TV, but they didn't show some of Scott Danns fights either

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 24 Sep 2007, 09:30

Podmore_Birmingham wrote:I think Eastman wins on points, probably takes over in commanding fashion after six or seven rounds. Like Bennie pointed out, its likely to be a similar scenario to that of the Richard Williams fight.

Tom Podmore

I don't thnk Elcock will last, I think Howard will be stung by the NO TV thing and 'try' and put on a different knid of performance..

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 24 Sep 2007, 09:52

DG. wrote:
Podmore_Birmingham wrote:I think Eastman wins on points, probably takes over in commanding fashion after six or seven rounds. Like Bennie pointed out, its likely to be a similar scenario to that of the Richard Williams fight.

Tom Podmore
I don't thnk Elcock will last, I think Howard will be stung by the NO TV thing and 'try' and put on a different knid of performance..

Is he really that ar5ed at this stage in his career by things like the TV snub?

Its a shame that the fans have been robbed of the chance to see this fight on TV by Howard's no show in Dudley, but I am hoping Elcock is gonna catch him demotivated and on the slide..

C'mon you Brummie!

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 24 Sep 2007, 10:01

TerribleTerry wrote:
DG. wrote:
Podmore_Birmingham wrote:I think Eastman wins on points, probably takes over in commanding fashion after six or seven rounds. Like Bennie pointed out, its likely to be a similar scenario to that of the Richard Williams fight.

Tom Podmore
I don't thnk Elcock will last, I think Howard will be stung by the NO TV thing and 'try' and put on a different knid of performance..

Is he really that ar5ed at this stage in his career by things like the TV snub?

Its a shame that the fans have been robbed of the chance to see this fight on TV by Howard's no show in Dudley, but I am hoping Elcock is gonna catch him demotivated and on the slide..

C'mon you Brummie!

I think Howard will realise that he is never going to get anywhere oif tv do not show him.

He could even get a voluntary shot at the world title (doubtful) but without tv, rival promoters will not offer him shit!

He better be bothered or he will not earn good money!

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 24 Sep 2007, 11:36

Elock has got Eastman at the right time in my oppinion, he was a good boxer and was unlucky not to win a world title but he blew his best shot vs Joppy by not doing enough. He seemed a nice guy so its a shame but I think its pretty much over.

Elock turned pro too late to amount to much.

Mr Gunn · Post by **Mr Gunn** » 24 Sep 2007, 16:10

i think Eastman knows to much for Elcock,he will break him down in 6 or 7...

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 24 Sep 2007, 17:32

I lean towards Eastman - Elcock hasn't really ever shown anything to beat someone like Eastman.

I suspect something similar to the Williams fight happening.

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 25 Sep 2007, 04:18

I like Elcock, think he's a great boxer but that non performance against Dann worries me in this one. I hope he beats Eastman and gets it on with the likes of Lockett and McDermott but I wouldn't bet on it

ciscokid · Post by **ciscokid** » 25 Sep 2007, 07:49

So there's no way to see this, apart from watching it live at the venue?

F##king great..

I love watching Eastman fight - even his poor performaces are worth watching.

Eastman W TKO Rnd 7.

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