EASTMAN/ELCOCK FRIDAY

Podmore_Birmingham · Post by **Podmore_Birmingham** » 26 Sep 2007, 07:59

Just read Rob McCracken saying in my local paper that Eastman has only just arrived in England. However, he still thinks Howard will have too much for Elcock, even at 50 per cent.

Tom Podmore.

steve richards · Post by **steve richards** » 26 Sep 2007, 08:45

Podmore_Birmingham wrote:Just read Rob McCracken saying in my local paper that Eastman has only just arrived in England. However, he still thinks Howard will have too much for Elcock, even at 50 per cent.

Tom Podmore.

I was at the last fight for both fighters and i'd give Wayne a chance, if he's is as fit as he says he is and keeps away from Eastmans bombs he should do it, I saw him the weekend and he looks well up for it, if Eastman is at 50% he will need a rocking chain, he has never been one for running around the ring.

Podmore_Birmingham · Post by **Podmore_Birmingham** » 27 Sep 2007, 13:29

Eastman, 11st 6lbs, stripped naked and needed a second trip to the scales to make the weight in Coventry this afternoon. Howard, confident as ever, came in at 11st 6 1/4lbs when he first weighed.

Elcock weighed 11st 5lbs, by the way, and hit the weight on his first try.

Tom Podmore.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 27 Sep 2007, 13:57

what time does the show start tomorrow?

Podmore_Birmingham · Post by **Podmore_Birmingham** » 27 Sep 2007, 14:39

REAL_DEAL wrote:what time does the show start tomorrow?

Doors at seven, boxing at eight.

Tom Podmore.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 27 Sep 2007, 15:00

Whats the height and reach of both of these. Thats could be crucial as both are affective with the jab.

Ally-M1 · Post by **Ally-M1** » 28 Sep 2007, 08:26

I can't see past Eastman winning this one...

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 28 Sep 2007, 08:54

If that's true what Tom_Podmore has read about what McCracken has said, Eastman is clearly taking this fight for granted, but even then I still have to side with Howard becuase of his experience. Remember how he nullified Richard Williams early then took over later and knocked him out.

I'm hoping styles don't clash, but Eastman has been more concerned with self-preservation than putting himself outside his comfort zone for a while now and Elcock doesn't always commit to his task if there's a danger of big punches coming his way.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 28 Sep 2007, 12:05

Is there any way of watching this?

Is it going to be put on the internet at some point?

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 28 Sep 2007, 12:55

DG. wrote:Howard will stop Elcock early,just to prove a point, he can destroy Elcock - too powerful for him.

Also, as someone said, WTF are sky doing shoring us that Arce fight?

I am not going out of my way to watch that, Eastmann Vs Elcock is much better - bit great - but is is British Title FFS.

i fancy a stoppage as well.

a definite eastman win anyway.

Hellephant · Post by **Hellephant** » 28 Sep 2007, 13:15

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 28 Sep 2007, 14:12

Elcock UD

C'mon Wayno!!!!

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 28 Sep 2007, 18:18

Result up on BritishBoxing.net

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 28 Sep 2007, 18:29

Christ! I'm flabberghasted. Canne believe it! Look forward to hearing what happened. I'm guessing Eastman wasn't in the best of shape.

Romi · Post by **Romi** » 28 Sep 2007, 18:31

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Christ! I'm flabberghasted. Canne believe it! Look forward to hearing what happened. I'm guessing Eastman wasn't in the best of shape.

What happened???

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 28 Sep 2007, 18:32

Romi wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Christ! I'm flabberghasted. Canne believe it! Look forward to hearing what happened. I'm guessing Eastman wasn't in the best of shape.
What happened???

Eastman lost ud.

Dirk Kelly · Post by **Dirk Kelly** » 28 Sep 2007, 18:46

Chambers2 wrote:Elcock UD

C'mon Wayno!!!!

Hope you had money on this!

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 28 Sep 2007, 19:02

dopey wrote:
Chambers2 wrote:Elcock UD

C'mon Wayno!!!!
Hope you had money on this!

Sounds like Howard has lost his hunger. I'm not surprised, he has been in the game a long long time. Too long perhaps.

A shame.

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 28 Sep 2007, 19:07

KO Artist wrote:
dopey wrote:
Chambers2 wrote:Elcock UD

C'mon Wayno!!!!
Hope you had money on this!
Sounds like Howard has lost his hunger. I'm not surprised, he has been in the game a long long time. Too long perhaps.

A shame.

A great shame.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 28 Sep 2007, 19:53

Well, nobodies career lasts for ever, and Howard had a pretty good one. Not quite good enough to be a world champion, but defiently one of the best British middleweights we've produced, and a terrific natural athlete.

Had he come over sooner and prepared properly the result may have been different.

Wonder whether he'll retire now, or maybe he'll go for a rematch with Elcock?

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 28 Sep 2007, 20:06

Not that surprised to be honest, Eastman has had a result like that coming for a while now, one that indicates it's time to hang them up.

SticknMove · Post by **SticknMove** » 28 Sep 2007, 20:44

Every fighter has his day. This result probably confirms that Eastman's career (well any significant part of one) is at an end. Always sad to see a quality fighter go out against an opponent that will not be quite as good as him. But that's the sad reality in boxing (the baton ultimately always gets passed on).

Eastman had a lot of natural ability and good power. It's a pity that he never became a world champ: he was good enough for one but not quite up to it when it mattered. I just hope he doesn't feel the need to carry on for whatever reason.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 28 Sep 2007, 20:52

Well, Eastman has been asking for a loss like this with his more recent attitude to his trainer. Robert McCraken should have nothing to do with him. I don't know if he prepared better for the Williams fight - but he was impressive in that one... Rubbish vs Ashira (where he definately did most of his training away from McCraken).

If Eastman got some hunger back then I'd have little doubt about him winning a British title again.

SticknMove · Post by **SticknMove** » 28 Sep 2007, 22:02

stujones wrote:Well, Eastman has been asking for a loss like this with his more recent attitude to his trainer. Robert McCraken should have nothing to do with him. I don't know if he prepared better for the Williams fight - but he was impressive in that one... Rubbish vs Ashira (where he definately did most of his training away from McCraken).

If Eastman got some hunger back then I'd have little doubt about him winning a British title again.

With all due repect Stu, I always thought it a strange decision by Eastman to turn McCracken as a trainer, given that he had already beaten the guy and appeared to be a notch above him. From McCraken's point of view; he was a fledgeling trainer with a lot of prospects under the Hennessey umbrella who took on a more talented quality ex opponent. That never sat right with me because there was bound to be friction somewhere down the line that compromises McCracken's authority and respect.

Shirow · Post by **Shirow** » 29 Sep 2007, 02:41

It's not like Eastman can't be outworked and Elcock would certainly be capable of jabbing and moving to order all night.
I'm still surprised though as Eastman has the higher level of talent but it was on the cards that a listless performance would cost him eventually.

I wonder if it's the end or whether he'll do a Hopkins and move past Froch's division to LHW and get in the mix with the likes of Haymer, Oakey & Magee.