Eduardo Lausse vs Florentino Fernandez

Lausse · Post by **Lausse** » 25 Sep 2007, 20:52

Who wins this matchup featuring two of the hardest hitting left hook bombers the middleweight division has ever produced?

Personally, Lausse was the better boxer of the two, and it may have come down to that. He moved in and out, back and around and picked his shots a little better than Floro did. I envision some brutal exchanges in this bout with the fireworks starting early, with ultimately Eduardo`s better skills taking the edge out of Floro`s punches for a mid rounds TKO/KO win for the Argentinian.

But I have to give Floro his dues at his best he was one hard hitting and tough son of a gun. He never took a backwards step against Tiger for the six rounds they fought and gave Fullmer a run for his money in their fight. Once Floro got the sweat going the man could punish like nobody`s business, and he would get his pound of flesh in before going out on his shield.

Lausse TKO7 Fernandez

Any thoughts?

Lausse · Post by **Lausse** » 27 Sep 2007, 12:19

Lausse wrote:Any thoughts?

I guess I am the only one who thinks this is a compelling matchup.

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 27 Sep 2007, 12:20

It is a great match up between 2 huge punchers. I can't comment because I haven't seen them fight other than a clip.

Lausse · Post by **Lausse** » 29 Sep 2007, 17:23

Ezzard wrote:It is a great match up between 2 huge punchers. I can't comment because I haven't seen them fight other than a clip.

Ezzard,

Your comment got me thinking that perhaps the main reason why nobody is replying to this thread may be because of a lack of footage on both fighters.

Myself I have quite a few fights of each man, such as the Fullmer, Sullivan, Boyd, Varona, Greaves and Pigou fights featuring Lausse, and the Fullmer, Carter, Torres, Pigou, Tiger, Ortega II fights featuring Fernandez.

So I have watched enough footage of both men to know what this fight would look like had they ever fought, and it would have been a terrific fight.

It`s a shame that these two are not talked about more often, they weren`t great fighters mind you, but they came to fight and they came to win and they prepared themselves to do both come fight time.

Martin Sosa Cameron · Post by **Martin Sosa Cameron** » 29 Sep 2007, 19:41

Hi, "Lausse"

I'm glad you had the nick of a great Argentinian fighter.

This two boys had an high K.O.'s percentage (71,25% Lausse and 64,18% Fernández) and beautiful records. A fight between them could be fabulous. I thinks that Lausse would win, may be by K.O., but in a not easy match.

Much times, the threads aren't answered due a lot of reason; I sent this only few minutes ago...

Eduardo Lausse had a twink, an equal in Argentina: Rafael Merentino (near of 80% of K.O. in a total of 60 bouts), but their never fought between them because have the same managers: the Porzio brothers)

Thanks for your thread!

Martin Sosa Cameron · Post by **Martin Sosa Cameron** » 01 Oct 2007, 13:29

Here is an article on Florentino Fernandez (in Spanish):

http://www.boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54193

Lausse · Post by **Lausse** » 01 Oct 2007, 19:38

Martin Sosa Cameron wrote:Hi, "Lausse"

I'm glad you had the nick of a great Argentinian fighter.

This two boys had an high K.O.'s percentage (71,25% Lausse and 64,18% Fernández) and beautiful records. A fight between them could be fabulous. I thinks that Lausse would win, may be by K.O., but in a not easy match.

Much times, the threads aren't answered due a lot of reason; I sent this only few minutes ago...

Eduardo Lausse had a twink, an equal in Argentina: Rafael Merentino (near of 80% of K.O. in a total of 60 bouts), but their never fought between them because have the same managers: the Porzio brothers)

Thanks for your thread!

Hello Martin,

Thank you for replying to my thread, it seems you are one of the few people here who is well acquainted with both of these fighters. I never heard of Rafael Merentino before, but I have looked him up on the boxrec database and he sure looked like a hell of a puncher based on his record. I also noticed he knocked out Andres Selpa, who defeated Lausse in two of their three bouts if I remember correctly.

What can you tell me about Eduardo`s loss by TKO in 13 to Selpa, Martin? I was told that it was stopped on cuts, is this true? And is there any footage of Lausse from his days fighting in Argentina, say against Kid Gavilan? Or for that matter is there any footage of Merentino at all? I would like to learn more about this Merentino fighter as well as Andres Selpa, if you can tell me more about them I would be grateful.

As for the question in the thread, I agree with you that whoever walked away the winner between Floro and Eduardo, it would have been a gruelling bout that would have had the fans screaming their lungs out from first bell to the last. These guys came to fight, not to dance and move, and they were as tough as they come. I think Floro would have been pressing the fight while Eduardo would have been picking his spots and looking to land the big left hook to end matters.

Fernandez was one tough hombre though I think he would have been taken out by Lausse. Floro kept backing up Tiger in their fight and was in there all the way with the Tiger, at some points he was even getting the better of it until unfortunately for him he was pulled out of the fight due to a badly broken nose. He even bulled Gene Fullmer around the ring in their fight, and had Fullmer fighting off the backfoot the entire fight just like Eduardo did, and Fullmer was as strong as they came!

I look forward to your reply and thoughts regarding my queries on Selpa and Merentino, and before I forget is there any footage available of Mauro Mina besides his fight against Henry Hank? Mina was a very, very good fighter and he had a very good jab which he kept pumping into Hanks face throughout their fight, and he stopped Bob Foster as well which is no easy feat!

Lausse · Post by **Lausse** » 01 Oct 2007, 20:47

I noticed that my thread has elicited over one hundred views yet only 6 replies, and at that by only three people which includes myself!

I would think that some of the older posters on the site would have had an opinion to share on this matchup, and it is my hope that it is not too late for some posters to chime in with their opinions.

Hell, if someone has a question about these two fighters or of that era in particular, I would be more than happy to answer whatever questions would be asked!

barry · Post by **barry** » 01 Oct 2007, 21:23

I have researched both fighters pretty well and really like both fighters a lot, but I would pick Lausse to win by knockout within 5 rounds as he was much more rounded than Fernandez! Fernandez was the heavier hitter, but Lausse had a much better chin, not to mention that he also packed a hell of a hard punch as well! It would be a shoot-out for however long it lasted, but I think that Lausse's better chin and better durability would outlast Fernandez!

barry · Post by **barry** » 01 Oct 2007, 21:36

On a side note...Martin is probably the best there is when it comes to the history of Argentinean fighters!

Another couple of my favorites from the 50s aside from Merentino and Lausse are Jose Bruno and Jose Maria Gatica...another couple of knockout specialists, though Martin can tell you a lot more about them I can! Gatica is one of Argentina's all-time boxing heroes and one of its greatest fighters. Gatica had a very good initial showing in New York in beating tough Terry Young, but then, unfortunately, he had a very poor performance here in the states as he had the misfortune of facing an Ike Williams who was still close to his best! Again, unfortunately, that was all that North America got to see of Gatica as he fought the rest of his career exclusively in Argentina!

Martin Sosa Cameron · Post by **Martin Sosa Cameron** » 02 Oct 2007, 19:59

Lausse wrote:
Martin Sosa Cameron wrote:Hi, "Lausse"

I'm glad you had the nick of a great Argentinian fighter.

This two boys had an high K.O.'s percentage (71,25% Lausse and 64,18% Fernández) and beautiful records. A fight between them could be fabulous. I thinks that Lausse would win, may be by K.O., but in a not easy match.

Much times, the threads aren't answered due a lot of reason; I sent this only few minutes ago...

Eduardo Lausse had a twink, an equal in Argentina: Rafael Merentino (near of 80% of K.O. in a total of 60 bouts), but their never fought between them because have the same managers: the Porzio brothers)

Thanks for your thread!

Hello Martin,

Thank you for replying to my thread, it seems you are one of the few people here who is well acquainted with both of these fighters. I never heard of Rafael Merentino before, but I have looked him up on the boxrec database and he sure looked like a hell of a puncher based on his record. I also noticed he knocked out Andres Selpa, who defeated Lausse in two of their three bouts if I remember correctly.

What can you tell me about Eduardo`s loss by TKO in 13 to Selpa, Martin? I was told that it was stopped on cuts, is this true? And is there any footage of Lausse from his days fighting in Argentina, say against Kid Gavilan? Or for that matter is there any footage of Merentino at all? I would like to learn more about this Merentino fighter as well as Andres Selpa, if you can tell me more about them I would be grateful.

As for the question in the thread, I agree with you that whoever walked away the winner between Floro and Eduardo, it would have been a gruelling bout that would have had the fans screaming their lungs out from first bell to the last. These guys came to fight, not to dance and move, and they were as tough as they come. I think Floro would have been pressing the fight while Eduardo would have been picking his spots and looking to land the big left hook to end matters.

Fernandez was one tough hombre though I think he would have been taken out by Lausse. Floro kept backing up Tiger in their fight and was in there all the way with the Tiger, at some points he was even getting the better of it until unfortunately for him he was pulled out of the fight due to a badly broken nose. He even bulled Gene Fullmer around the ring in their fight, and had Fullmer fighting off the backfoot the entire fight just like Eduardo did, and Fullmer was as strong as they came!

I look forward to your reply and thoughts regarding my queries on Selpa and Merentino, and before I forget is there any footage available of Mauro Mina besides his fight against Henry Hank? Mina was a very, very good fighter and he had a very good jab which he kept pumping into Hanks face throughout their fight, and he stopped Bob Foster as well which is no easy feat!

Hi, Lausse!

Thanks for your reply and interest. Rafael Merentino, named "Rompehuesos" ("Bonecrusher") was forced to retire after two eyes surgeries when he was only 25 years old and after win by K.O. his five last fights and going to his boxing plenitude. He had a tremendous and incredible punch. Andrés Selpa was a boy disciplined and responsible in his training, but after he was seven times knocked down by Rafael, he wasn't the same man; this was the first and only time Selpa was knocked out for 10"; the second was many years after, by Bob Foster. The Argentinian middleweight champion Ricardo Calicchio, unbeaten, was one of the most brave fighters in our boxing, and any months after his second lost by K.O. to Merentino, he was forced to retire due the injuries of that fights against Rafael: after each k.d. of Calicchio, Merentino, weeping, asked the referee to stop the fight. In their fight against Kid Gavilán, the world champion was groggy twice, and after their fight, Gavilán commented: "There is not in the world a middleweight with a power like Merentino, he is the most potent of all".

Here is a comparison between Lausse and Merentino measured in their common rivals; is in Spanish but very easy to understand the results and statistics. I believe, if they fought once, that Merentino would win, and in more than one bout, the conqueror would be either one or the other. As Rafael fought 60 times, the confronting is until the 60 bouts of Lausse; there is too a good picture of both pugilists:

http://albordedelring.com.ar/benatar/martinsosa3.htm

There are much K.O. men in the Argentinian boxing history (one of the bests, Atilio Caraune), but the three greatest are José Carattoli, Eduardo Lausse and Rafael Merentino

Andrés Selpa win by TKO over Lausse because Eduardo had fractured two or three cutlets. Selpa was a very good fighter when he desired, but very irregular: he lost to easy opponents and win over the hardest.

Mauro Mina, what a boxer! But I haven't you request; Henry Hank was a great fighter, too

If you wants a work on José Carattoli, please see this

http://amatoboxingsite.multiply.com/not ... notes:2015

Martin Sosa Cameron · Post by **Martin Sosa Cameron** » 02 Oct 2007, 20:04

Barry is one of the best boxing experts in the world; between his virtues are his tireless interest for to know always more, and more and more he knows most!

Broncano · Post by **Broncano** » 02 Oct 2007, 20:13

Lausse wrote: I look forward to your reply and thoughts regarding my queries on Selpa and Merentino, and before I forget is there any footage available of Mauro Mina besides his fight against Henry Hank? Mina was a very, very good fighter and he had a very good jab which he kept pumping into Hanks face throughout their fight, and he stopped Bob Foster as well which is no easy feat!

What a great nickname you chose. my friend. Eduardo "nocaut" Lausse is also one of my alltime favorites, from that great boxing nation, Argentina.

As far as your question on Mina, the only fight available in its entirety on film is the one you mentioned against Hank at MSG. However, there's a docummentary produced by Panamanian boxing journalist Juan Carlos Tapia in 1980 where there are highlights (roughly 3-5 minutes each) of Mauro's fights against Sixtor Rodriguez, Freddie Mack, Dutschman, Artie Towne, Eddie Cotton II, Allen Thomas, Floyd McCoy among others.
Sadly, to my knowledge there is no footage of the Foster fight.

Saludos,

Broncano

enrique · Post by **enrique** » 02 Oct 2007, 20:32

I don't know who would win but I would pay to see it.

I see Florentino often in Miami -at least five or six times a year- and he only weighs about ten pounds more than when he was fighting. He's totally coherent and sharp and is in excellent health. He could beat the hell out of a lot of fighters around today even though he's pushing close to seventy.

Lausse · Post by **Lausse** » 02 Oct 2007, 21:05

Martin Sosa Cameron wrote:
Hi, Lausse!

Thanks for your reply and interest. Rafael Merentino, named "Rompehuesos" ("Bonecrusher") was forced to retire after two eyes surgeries when he was only 25 years old and after win by K.O. his five last fights and going to his boxing plenitude. He had a tremendous and incredible punch. Andrés Selpa was a boy disciplined and responsible in his training, but after he was seven times knocked down by Rafael, he wasn't the same man; this was the first and only time Selpa was knocked out for 10"; the second was many years after, by Bob Foster. The Argentinian middleweight champion Ricardo Calicchio, unbeaten, was one of the most brave fighters in our boxing, and any months after his second lost by K.O. to Merentino, he was forced to retire due the injuries of that fights against Rafael: after each k.d. of Calicchio, Merentino, weeping, asked the referee to stop the fight. In their fight against Kid Gavilán, the world champion was groggy twice, and after their fight, Gavilán commented: "There is not in the world a middleweight with a power like Merentino, he is the most potent of all".

Here is a comparison between Lausse and Merentino measured in their common rivals; is in Spanish but very easy to understand the results and statistics. I believe, if they fought once, that Merentino would win, and in more than one bout, the conqueror would be either one or the other. As Rafael fought 60 times, the confronting is until the 60 bouts of Lausse; there is too a good picture of both pugilists:

http://albordedelring.com.ar/benatar/martinsosa3.htm

There are much K.O. men in the Argentinian boxing history (one of the bests, Atilio Caraune), but the three greatest are José Carattoli, Eduardo Lausse and Rafael Merentino

Andrés Selpa win by TKO over Lausse because Eduardo had fractured two or three cutlets. Selpa was a very good fighter when he desired, but very irregular: he lost to easy opponents and win over the hardest.

Mauro Mina, what a boxer! But I haven't you request; Henry Hank was a great fighter, too

If you wants a work on José Carattoli, please see this

http://amatoboxingsite.multiply.com/not ... notes:2015

Thank you for your in-depth reply Martin, I enjoyed it very much and it was a very informative read, and thank you for taking the time to write it and for including those articles as well. I just wish there was some film available on Merentino, Selpa and Carattoli, as I would have loved to see them in action. I look forward to reading more of your posts in the future, and I will have some more questions for you soon regarding some more fighters I am interested in.

Lausse · Post by **Lausse** » 02 Oct 2007, 21:14

Broncano wrote:
What a great nickname you chose. my friend. Eduardo "nocaut" Lausse is also one of my alltime favorites, from that great boxing nation, Argentina.

As far as your question on Mina, the only fight available in its entirety on film is the one you mentioned against Hank at MSG. However, there's a docummentary produced by Panamanian boxing journalist Juan Carlos Tapia in 1980 where there are highlights (roughly 3-5 minutes each) of Mauro's fights against Sixtor Rodriguez, Freddie Mack, Dutschman, Artie Towne, Eddie Cotton II, Allen Thomas, Floyd McCoy among others.
Sadly, to my knowledge there is no footage of the Foster fight.

Saludos,

Broncano

Hello Broncano, thank you for chiming in.

Would you be able to tell me where I could find that documentary on Mina? I would love to get a copy of it, and if you can help me out on that front I would be most grateful. About the Foster fight, can you give me any details as to how the fight unfolded?

How was Foster stopped and was it a competitive fight? I would love to hear any details on that fight, as I have never been able to find out anything about the bout other than Foster got stopped. Any info you can give me would be most appreciated.

Regards,

Craig

Broncano · Post by **Broncano** » 02 Oct 2007, 21:23

Craig, check your PMs.

Lausse · Post by **Lausse** » 02 Oct 2007, 21:25

enrique wrote:I don't know who would win but I would pay to see it.

I see Florentino often in Miami -at least five or six times a year- and he only weighs about ten pounds more than when he was fighting. He's totally coherent and sharp and is in excellent health. He could beat the hell out of a lot of fighters around today even though he's pushing close to seventy.

Hello Enrique,

Glad to hear that "The Ox" is doing well these days, he is one of my favourites and if you get the chance tell him on my behalf that he has a fan up here in Montreal who enjoys watching his fights on a regular basis, especially the second Ortega and the Fullmer fights, which I think he did enough to win by the way.

Since you know Floro, has he ever spoken about his two fights against Rocky Kalingo? I would like to know more about those two fights, unfortunately I have never been able to find out much about them, but if there is anything you can tell me about those two fights I would love to hear it.

Lausse · Post by **Lausse** » 02 Oct 2007, 21:53

barry wrote:On a side note...Martin is probably the best there is when it comes to the history of Argentinean fighters!

Another couple of my favorites from the 50s aside from Merentino and Lausse are Jose Bruno and Jose Maria Gatica...another couple of knockout specialists, though Martin can tell you a lot more about them I can! Gatica is one of Argentina's all-time boxing heroes and one of its greatest fighters. Gatica had a very good initial showing in New York in beating tough Terry Young, but then, unfortunately, he had a very poor performance here in the states as he had the misfortune of facing an Ike Williams who was still close to his best! Again, unfortunately, that was all that North America got to see of Gatica as he fought the rest of his career exclusively in Argentina!

Hello Barry,

I have that Gatica fight against Williams... talk about bad luck having to take on a monster like Ike in only your second fight stateside! Although there is no shame in losing to Williams, who was one of the top five lightweights of all-time and a devastating puncher as well.

I have never heard of Jose Bruno however, but now that you mentioned him I will look at his career on the Boxrec database, but if you and Martin for that matter can tell me a bit more about him that would be great.

Martin Sosa Cameron · Post by **Martin Sosa Cameron** » 27 Oct 2007, 11:29

“Merentino and Lausse? Both were tremendous punchers, but Lausse was more clean: he K.O.’ed you with only one blow, and all still normal for the loser; instead, Merentino demolished you, smashed you, and could ruined your career” (Andres Selpa, former Argentinian and South American Middleweight and Light Heavyweight Champion, who fought against the two, Rafael Merentino [LKO 7] and Eduardo Lausse [WPTS 10, WTKO 13, LPTS 10])

enrique · Post by **enrique** » 27 Oct 2007, 18:04

In response to Lausse's query: Florentino says when he fought Kalingo it was a matter of who hurt the other one first.

His toughest wars were the 4 fight series with Rocky Rivero.

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