Ojay Abrahams ..... the final say

[rhino222]

Ojay seems to be stuck on 99 fights. its rumoured that ojay was going to get his 'ton' then retire from the fight game, its alleged that he has taken the easy option during some of his recent fights, i was very disappointed during his showing with darren barker at nottingham when he retired after the first i think. some would also argue that he was late getting to the venue..

would it be fair to say that abrahams and hennessey had a bit of 'previous'. something to do with ticket allowance a few years before, or was it FW and not MH, i cant honestly remember. was ojays effort v barker his way of getting the promoter back?

and now, with ojay stuck on 99, are the promoters having the final say? or is it ojays decision to give himself some more publicity !

personally im disappointed in how ojays career materialised, he definately had power and technique and was a decent operator in the embryonic phase of his career, but then sadly he seemed to go down down the route of 'survivor' to please his bank managers and promoters !!

i remember him giving freeman barr a boxing lesson when barr was wbo number one contander.

i remember him decking marlon hayes heavily and being on the verge of a stoppage win against the fancied yank until yet another mysterious retirement.

and i also remember his excellent showing against farnell, great atmosphere and lots of needle, personally i thought ojay shaded the fight but the referee thought otherwise.

shame how peoples careers pan out, the man had talent, and wasted it !

[oliverfennell]

Ojay seems to be stuck on 99 fights. its rumoured that ojay was going to get his 'ton' then retire from the fight game, its alleged that he has taken the easy option during some of his recent fights, i was very disappointed during his showing with darren barker at nottingham when he retired after the first i think. some would also argue that he was late getting to the venue..

would it be fair to say that abrahams and hennessey had a bit of 'previous'. something to do with ticket allowance a few years before, or was it FW and not MH, i cant honestly remember. was ojays effort v barker his way of getting the promoter back?

and now, with ojay stuck on 99, are the promoters having the final say? or is it ojays decision to give himself some more publicity !

personally im disappointed in how ojays career materialised, he definately had power and technique and was a decent operator in the embryonic phase of his career, but then sadly he seemed to go down down the route of 'survivor' to please his bank managers and promoters !!

i remember him giving freeman barr a boxing lesson when barr was wbo number one contander.

i remember him decking marlon hayes heavily and being on the verge of a stoppage win against the fancied yank until yet another mysterious retirement.

and i also remember his excellent showing against farnell, great atmosphere and lots of needle, personally i thought ojay shaded the fight but the referee thought otherwise.

shame how peoples careers pan out, the man had talent, and wasted it !

I remember a feature on him in Boxing Monthly way back in the day which was marking him out as one to watch.

[Coco]

Ojay seems to be stuck on 99 fights. its rumoured that ojay was going to get his 'ton' then retire from the fight game, its alleged that he has taken the easy option during some of his recent fights, i was very disappointed during his showing with darren barker at nottingham when he retired after the first i think. some would also argue that he was late getting to the venue..

would it be fair to say that abrahams and hennessey had a bit of 'previous'. something to do with ticket allowance a few years before, or was it FW and not MH, i cant honestly remember. was ojays effort v barker his way of getting the promoter back?

and now, with ojay stuck on 99, are the promoters having the final say? or is it ojays decision to give himself some more publicity !

personally im disappointed in how ojays career materialised, he definately had power and technique and was a decent operator in the embryonic phase of his career, but then sadly he seemed to go down down the route of 'survivor' to please his bank managers and promoters !!

i remember him giving freeman barr a boxing lesson when barr was wbo number one contander.

i remember him decking marlon hayes heavily and being on the verge of a stoppage win against the fancied yank until yet another mysterious retirement.

and i also remember his excellent showing against farnell, great atmosphere and lots of needle, personally i thought ojay shaded the fight but the referee thought otherwise.

shame how peoples careers pan out, the man had talent, and wasted it !

Ojay has probably maximised his earning potential for the talent he had.

I'm sure he could get that 100th fight, esp if he was on a small show for small money, even if he has been ostracised by the bigger promoters.

I'm sure we would have heard if he hs had his license revoked

[BBN]

Anthony Hanna looks like he may get stuck on 99 too, especially after the bad knockdown in his last fight.

Buckley marches on though, just 12 more to go for the big 300.

[twenty six]

OJ fucked himself on a FW show where he would have got his 100 - by moaning about the purse.
Now if what I've heard is right, he was taking the piss with his demands and it is rare for me EVER to say that because in the main I believe boxers are underpaid.
As a consequence off the show - and he hasn't fought since.
Draw your own conclusions.
OJ's claim to fame has to be trying to kick Brendan Ingle in the chops through the ropes during his fight with Rhodes.
Priceless.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Dangerous move on Ojay's part, he could have lost a leg if he caught Brendan in the mouth!

[rhino222]

classic ojay here against froch. wait till the ref is on 9, then stand up and look disappointed that the fight has been stopped, do these pros think we are all stupid?

nice right hand from froch though, and listen to the commentary, its classic, they are building ojay up as a decent test and a decent nights work for froch...then......bingo !!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7PDsyMrsFQQ

[Arnie]

Rhino what the Fuc$ was you watching that night

[rhino222]

Rhino what the Fuc$ was you watching that night

ha ha..watched you retaliate and lose 2 points for hitting after the bell arnie.

in all seriousness mate, were you worried that ojay might have shaded the fight or were you confident you had done enough.

[Arnie]

Thought I won every round like the ref said

[Arnie]

It wasnt after the bell, it was after the ref called break. You will have to get up early to quiz me about boxing mate.

[rhino222]

well i though it was close, and spud was cheering for ojay, cos ojay had told him a joke earlier in the evening !! ...

[oliverfennell]

well i though it was close, and spud was cheering for ojay, cos ojay had told him a joke earlier in the evening !! ...

If Spud was cheering for Ojay, then an Ojay win was the only honest result. Anybody who thinks differently must be either crooked or an idiot.

[Arnie]

You must not be a very good boxing judge then. XX

[Captain Hook]

He's a sarcastic git that Fennell :)

[oliverfennell]

You must not be a very good boxing judge then. XX

I was actually having a pop at Spud, because he flies off the handle if anybody disagrees with him.

For the record, I thought you beat Ojay in a close one.

[Arnie]

Oliver I was talking back to Rhino not you mate

[Albert]

Arnie

I honestly to this day and I am sorry to say this - thought Ojay won that fight mate!!!

[Arnie]

Spud mate I thought you new your boxing? It wasnt even close with 2 points took away. Watch it back. But that fella could BANG in his day

[Coco]

Spud mate I thought you new your boxing? It wasnt even close with 2 points took away. Watch it back. But that fella could BANG in his day

More like Spud is new to boxing!

[rhino222]

Arnie

I honestly to this day and I am sorry to say this - thought Ojay won that fight mate!!!

i agree with spud on that one arnie, the only one who thought you won the fight was the referee........and a few thousand beer swilling mancunians !!

[el_grande_mauro_mina]

This is my opinion and of course can be disputed but I had Ojay
sneaking it, you certainly didn't win every round in my opinion Arnie
but you could have pipped it. It was 10 (or howver long ago it was) years ago since I last saw the fight so my judgement is clouded through time.

[Albert]

Arnie

I honestly to this day and I am sorry to say this - thought Ojay won that fight mate!!!

i agree with spud on that one arnie, the only one who thought you won the fight was the referee........and a few thousand beer swilling mancunians !!

Listen Mr Farnell Ojay Abrahams won the fight - very clearly in my view - that result has to go down as one of the biggest travesties in British Boxing History.

I remember saying to an old balding an ugly Rhino - if Ojay gets the decision watch things kick off in here!!! - have to say though your lads behaved themselves and made a fantastic atmosphere whereever they went!!!

[oliverfennell]

Arnie

I honestly to this day and I am sorry to say this - thought Ojay won that fight mate!!!

i agree with spud on that one arnie, the only one who thought you won the fight was the referee........and a few thousand beer swilling mancunians !!

Listen Mr Farnell Ojay Abrahams won the fight - very clearly in my view - that result has to go down as one of the biggest travesties in British Boxing History.

I remember saying to an old balding an ugly Rhino - if Ojay gets the decision watch things kick off in here!!! - have to say though your lads behaved themselves and made a fantastic atmosphere whereever they went!!!

I loved when they behaved themselves by calling Takaloo a "Paki", and I did indeed love that atmosphere when you felt like you better find a different part of the arena to run to in the event Farnell lost. Same goes for Gomez and Brodie fans. Is there a theme here?

(Note: never actually did see significant crowd trouble involving these fans; just always felt like there an ever-present chance of a kick-off in the air with these guys)

[TerribleTerry]

I loved when they behaved themselves by calling Takaloo a "Paki", and I did indeed love that atmosphere when you felt like you better find a different part of the arena to run to in the event Farnell lost. Same goes for Gomez and Brodie fans. Is there a theme here?

(Note: never actually did see significant crowd trouble involving these fans; just always felt like there an ever-present chance of a kick-off in the air with these guys)

Think you are being a little precious here mate - most boxers with a large support draw their fan base from football crowds and/or their local estates and pubs - alot of fighters have a selection of fans who can be a bit 'moody' and just are their for the beer, the fight itself and to have it bang off if the opportunity arises. Its sad but true.

You cant blame the fighter themselves. Just look at Rob McCraken for instance. He had a large loyal following and they took part in one of the largest televised riots ever at the NEC. Its what happens when big groups of drunk lads from different towns meet in a hostile atmosphere.

Rob himself is a gent and a lovely fellar - he just drew a lot of support from Brum.

No way is this exclusive to either Arnie Farnell or the manchester fighters.