Margarito v Mayorga

bigfatjourneyman · Post by **bigfatjourneyman** » 09 Dec 2003, 10:15

Who wins? This has to be one of the potentially best match ups for next year. Perhaps controversially I think Margarito...

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 09 Dec 2003, 10:22

Mayorga should win, I liked the look of Margarito against Diaz (who I rated very highly at the time) however I don't think he was at all impressive against China Chinned Lewis.

Having seen Diaz's subsequent fight, its clear that the guy is faded (would still be a tough fighter for the likes of Hatton, Witter and Magee). He recently got stopped by Hector Quiroz in a fight of the year contender, however he stopped Quiroz when he was at his prime a few years back. Lets not forget Diaz was leading on the cards against Magarito prior to the stoppage.

I just the Mayorga will hit to hard and be to quick for Margarito, Ricardo has exceptional stamina and his style is going to cause havoc for years to come.

I would go for Mayroga by late stoppage or points. But, lets not forget Mayorga has a toughy this weekend (a very toughy), I'm predicting a Ricardo victory, but I'm not at all confident with the pick and will be going to the bookies and laying a few pounds on Cory.

Lugh · Post by **Lugh** » 09 Dec 2003, 10:26

Agree with the Mayorga win but would add that Margarito is a real talent and under-rated alot IMO.

He reminds me of bigger Manuel Medina.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 09 Dec 2003, 10:29

Margarito seems to love to hurt people just as much as Mayorga. If there's one big fight next year that's certain to deliver the goods - this is it.

I've never seen Spinks so I can't comment too much on his chances on saturday night but what I do know is if he's the light puncher that his record suggests then he'll have to box like Sugar Ray Leonard to keep Mayorga off him. Is Spinks really that good a boxer?

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 09 Dec 2003, 10:30

He's got a nine inch reach advantage, 5 inches more than Forrest!

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 09 Dec 2003, 10:31

Margarito is one of the better WBO champions, and holds a stoppage win over that scourge of British fighters, Sergio Martinez. But would he have twice beaten Forrest? I'm not sure he would. And, at the end of the day, the WBO is still the WBO. Pretty naff. Mayorga's fight with Spinks is for all three titles, which gives the winner an edge over everyone.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 09 Dec 2003, 10:36

stujones wrote:He's got a nine inch reach advantage, 5 inches more than Forrest!

But is he a good boxer Stu? I've never read anything about Spinks that suggests he does anything particularly special in the ring. And Mayorga is probably a little cleverer than many give him credit for. Surely basic jab & move tactics are not enough to contain this monster no matter how long your arms are.

Lugh · Post by **Lugh** » 09 Dec 2003, 10:37

bennie wrote:Margarito is one of the better WBO champions. But would he have twice beaten Forrest?

bennie - if you'd asked me befroe Mayorga-Forrest 1 (and 2 if i'm honest) I'd have said Mayorga COULD NEVER have beaten Forrest at all - never mind KO him and then outpoint him (solidly).

still I agree I'd fancy Mayorga still.

One point about the Mayorga-Spinks bout - Don King has (according to BM) insisted that Emmanuel Steward works with Mayorga for this one bout - so DK obviously thinks this is a tough fight for Mayorga - and DK is a pretty shrewd judge of a fight.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 09 Dec 2003, 10:49

Well Steward soon left the Mayorga camp so Don's plan obviously didn't work. Doubt it will make much difference. I mean does anyone think that Mayorga was actually taught to fight like that?

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 09 Dec 2003, 10:57

I would love to see this fight - pure Latino machismo! I'd have to favour Mayorga as it stands as I feel he's just a bit more proven at the top level, but what a tear-up it would be.
I hope (and believe) Mayorga demolishes Spinks.

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 09 Dec 2003, 11:11

bigfatjourneyman wrote:Who wins? This has to be one of the potentially best match ups for next year. Perhaps controversially I think Margarito...

Cory Spinks might have something to say about this, come Saturday.

Lugh · Post by **Lugh** » 09 Dec 2003, 11:13

Kilburn wrote: I mean does anyone think that Mayorga was actually taught to fight like that?

Good point!!

The other good point is that Latino tradition dictates that both fighters occupy centre-ring and take turns to try to KO each other - this type of fight will surely favour "El Matador"

PS. Does anyone else appreciate the irony of a fighter that fights like a
paternally enraged bull (on crack), naming himself after the bull-fighter?

(Mayorga apparently points out that "the Matador is the only one left standing at the end" - hence the nickname).

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 09 Dec 2003, 11:20

Mayorga cos of his extra power and punch resistance.

shakermaker · Post by **shakermaker** » 09 Dec 2003, 11:49

I think Mayorga is gonna have problems with Spinks this weekend. Mayorga could be throwing at air a lot of the times if Spinks boxes from distance.

Steward has been kicked into touch which won't make much of a difference but this is an ugle match up for Mayorga. Could make him look bad if Spinks runs. He'd be better put in with a come forward fighter.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 09 Dec 2003, 13:09

Margarito has been down a few times so I'd fancy Mayorga to overpower him in a brutal war.
If Mayorga gets by Spinks they are lining up Shane Mosley in March I think, so might never happen.
Spinks could prove more difficult than some people think though.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 09 Dec 2003, 13:14

It's great that we're going to see this fight 'live'. Spinks is Spinks. Born with blood in his veins. His father was an animal (think what he did in the '76 Olympics; he stopped the legendary Cuban Sixto Soria to win the gold). And Cory won the title in Italy. He's no mug. But Mayorga hasn't borne comparison to the legendary Roberto Duran for nothing.
Great fight. Great bill. Great night.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 09 Dec 2003, 13:21

bennie wrote:It's great that we're going to see this fight 'live'. Spinks is Spinks. Born with blood in his veins. His father was an animal (think what he did in the '76 Olympics; he stopped the legendary Cuban Sixto Soria to win the gold). And Cory won the title in Italy. He's no mug. But Mayorga hasn't borne comparison to the legendary Roberto Duran for nothing.
Great fight. Great bill. Great night.

Talk about unlucky - he's born 5 days after his Dad becomes heavyweight champion of the world, and he still ends up being brought up broke in a St Louis ghetto, where his brother and best friend are both shot to death.

Uncle Mike and Leon are going to be ringside.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 09 Dec 2003, 13:24

MightyWarrior wrote:
bennie wrote:It's great that we're going to see this fight 'live'. Spinks is Spinks. Born with blood in his veins. His father was an animal (think what he did in the '76 Olympics; he stopped the legendary Cuban Sixto Soria to win the gold). And Cory won the title in Italy. He's no mug. But Mayorga hasn't borne comparison to the legendary Roberto Duran for nothing.
Great fight. Great bill. Great night.
Talk about unlucky - he's born 5 days after his Dad becomes heavyweight champion of the world, and he still ends up being brought up broke in a St Louis ghetto, where his brother and best friend are both shot to death.

Uncle Mike and Leon are going to be ringside.

Great knowledge, MW. Didn't know Cory was born five days after the Ali win. What a week that was for Leon!
Stu Jones has just revealed that William Joppy is a 7/1 outsider against Bernard Hopkins. That's what Spinks was against Ali. Mmmm...

shakermaker · Post by **shakermaker** » 09 Dec 2003, 13:25

I nearly tipped Spinks too win. Mayorga is a very good fighter but I think Spinks is a mare too fight. I bet you'd get good money on Spinks to win on points..........watch Mayorga go and knock him out in a round

Deserter · Post by **Deserter** » 10 Dec 2003, 03:28

bennie wrote:Spinks is Spinks. Born with blood in his veins.

Surely most people are born with blood in their veins Bennie, or do you know something we don't?

Lugh · Post by **Lugh** » 10 Dec 2003, 05:26

bennie wrote:Born with blood in his veins.

As opposed to.................?

Lugh · Post by **Lugh** » 10 Dec 2003, 05:29

shakermaker wrote:Could make him look bad if Spinks runs.

Tough place to get a decision if you are going to run.

Lugh · Post by **Lugh** » 10 Dec 2003, 05:39

bennie wrote:[William Joppy is a 7/1 outsider against Bernard Hopkins.

Joppy's stock fell alot after Trinidad flattened him - and I reckon he's better than people see him currently, in the same way I reckon Eastman is better than most think - making Joppy's win a really good one, better prep than Hakkar and co.

He's tricky and could steal alot of rounds - but BHop is a tricky guy to steal rounds from!

I don't reckon BHop will stop him (although I don't think its out of the question) - so it looks like there could be some interesting scoring to me.

I have a strong feeling he will give (a fading?) BHop more of a tussle than people think and 7/1 seems pretty long to me.

Yet another bout to get pant-wettingly over-excited about.

This is raising a serious problem - which bout(s) do I snooze through?????

(John Ruiz is a fair bet - I haven't lasted too many of his fights!)

shakermaker · Post by **shakermaker** » 10 Dec 2003, 09:13

I read an interview with the rock and he said he's gonna steal the show.....so don't miss that fight! Ruiz has something to prove and is gonna come to fight, he looks scrappy but is a pretty tough customer.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 10 Dec 2003, 14:51

Maragarito for all his come forward attributes he has defensive flaws imo, if he marches forward and takes the flush shots he did against Diaz and Lewis from Mayorga then he gets stopped and early. He loves a tearup and so does Mayorga..so lets get it on! Margarito forces the fights well and always looks better when on the outside using his jab but against Diaz he took way to many right hands and left hooks and Mayorga's power would tell. Margarito's stamina is good but he looked open against against Six Heads, defensive frailites will cost him....Mayorga KO7 Margarito.

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