I wish I lived in the states!!!
boxing must start around 3pm to get all that in.
yes don king bill is being shown on sky sports
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gensu3k1
- Heavyweight
Can't wait, my flight leaves tomorrow morning.
They even allow you to drink beer whilst watching fights in the States, so I shall spend the afternoon having a few beers and watching the undercard fights, before it cranks up for the big ones.
Word of advice for those watching the Hatton bill on Sky and then wanting to see the Reid-Ottke fight on the Beeb "as live". I reckon Sky will announce the result of that fight towards the end of their Hatton broadcast.....
They even allow you to drink beer whilst watching fights in the States, so I shall spend the afternoon having a few beers and watching the undercard fights, before it cranks up for the big ones.
Word of advice for those watching the Hatton bill on Sky and then wanting to see the Reid-Ottke fight on the Beeb "as live". I reckon Sky will announce the result of that fight towards the end of their Hatton broadcast.....
You reckon Loynesy? I'd be very surprised if they did. It just wouldn't be SKY's style. Yeah they occasionally drop in names like Eastman and Harrison during commentary but to actually give breaking news about a BBC fighter live on air after Hatton's biggest fight? Nah surely not.Loynesy wrote:Word of advice for those watching the Hatton bill on Sky and then wanting to see the Reid-Ottke fight on the Beeb "as live". I reckon Sky will announce the result of that fight towards the end of their Hatton broadcast.....
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jamesmcdonnell
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I saw that fight with the flyweight you are on about, I forget his name now, but my god,it was scandalous....is this the one you're on about, this never got published
Why boxing is a bloodsport – Reyes v Cardenas.
I just received a tape the other day, with the Reyes v Cardenas minimumweight title fight on the undercard of the Eric Morales V Guty Espadas bill.
I know this is well after the event, but nevertheless I felt compelled to make a comment here on the horrific beating taken by Cardenas, which was as a direct result of the utter ineptitude of the referee, the cavalier disregard of the fighter's own corner, and the weakness and indecision of the ringside doctor
This referee should stick to refereeing cockfights, as he showed a flagrant disregard for the fighter under his care.
As early as the 4th, Cardenas was walking around in a punch-induced trance, eating shot after shot as Reyes worked him over like a heavy bag, how Cardenas didn’t go down is beyond me. Between the rounds, the ringside doctor intervened and demanded a time out to examine Cardenas who had already taken a fearful beating.
What transpired next was nothing short of scandalous. When the doctor asked him if he was Ok, Cardenas replied that he could not see, the doctor instructed the referee to call the fight off, the referee waved it on regardless, at the bidding of Cardenas' own cornermen!
Amazingly, in the 5th, Cardenas was allowed to continue taking a beating, although amazingly he still didn’t go down, the referee watched, totally mute as he was battered around the ring.
In the 6th, Cardenas was finally dropped, as he sank stiff legged to the canvas under another onslaught along the ropes, incredibly, the referee allowed him to rise groggily at 5, and instructed him to walk forward. Cardenas clearly rubber legged, should certainly have been halted right then and there. However, Reiss, who probably is a big fan of bare-knuckle boxing judging by his disregard for his duties, staggeringly waved the action on.
Cardenas absorbed another terrific barrage of blows along the ropes, which was allowed to continue for what seemed like an age, before having the temerity to leap in there like he was saving a child from the path of a truck. What an ass!
I must confess to knowing little about referee Jack Reiss, but this man should never be allowed to referee another fight of any kind. Cardenas is probably ruined as a fighter after the unbelievable one-sided beating he took, and had this been a higher weight title fight between two better known fighters, there would be public outrage over this.
I fail to understand why Cardenas’ own corner, the ringside doctor, or the referee didn’t show Cardenas the compassion any fighter deserves. He stopped fighting back from the 4th round when he was first nailed and wobbled by an uppercut, and was allowed to take sickening punishment for almost 2 solid rounds.
This is precisely the kind of blood-sport type occurrence which has sensible liberals the world over calling for the banning of boxing, which they see as the anthropological version of bullfights and cockfighting, and who can blame them, I’m a fan of the sport, and I was disgusted by what I saw.
The only thing that I can think of which might explain this piss-poor officiating, is that all concerned were misguided by an urge to allow the champion a chance to recover. However, surely a whole round and a half of being beaten on solidly without firing anything back is enough to confirm that the fighter is totally incapable of continuing.
There should be an investigation into this potentially tragic beating sustained by Cardenas, and the reasons behind it as soon as possible.
Why boxing is a bloodsport – Reyes v Cardenas.
I just received a tape the other day, with the Reyes v Cardenas minimumweight title fight on the undercard of the Eric Morales V Guty Espadas bill.
I know this is well after the event, but nevertheless I felt compelled to make a comment here on the horrific beating taken by Cardenas, which was as a direct result of the utter ineptitude of the referee, the cavalier disregard of the fighter's own corner, and the weakness and indecision of the ringside doctor
This referee should stick to refereeing cockfights, as he showed a flagrant disregard for the fighter under his care.
As early as the 4th, Cardenas was walking around in a punch-induced trance, eating shot after shot as Reyes worked him over like a heavy bag, how Cardenas didn’t go down is beyond me. Between the rounds, the ringside doctor intervened and demanded a time out to examine Cardenas who had already taken a fearful beating.
What transpired next was nothing short of scandalous. When the doctor asked him if he was Ok, Cardenas replied that he could not see, the doctor instructed the referee to call the fight off, the referee waved it on regardless, at the bidding of Cardenas' own cornermen!
Amazingly, in the 5th, Cardenas was allowed to continue taking a beating, although amazingly he still didn’t go down, the referee watched, totally mute as he was battered around the ring.
In the 6th, Cardenas was finally dropped, as he sank stiff legged to the canvas under another onslaught along the ropes, incredibly, the referee allowed him to rise groggily at 5, and instructed him to walk forward. Cardenas clearly rubber legged, should certainly have been halted right then and there. However, Reiss, who probably is a big fan of bare-knuckle boxing judging by his disregard for his duties, staggeringly waved the action on.
Cardenas absorbed another terrific barrage of blows along the ropes, which was allowed to continue for what seemed like an age, before having the temerity to leap in there like he was saving a child from the path of a truck. What an ass!
I must confess to knowing little about referee Jack Reiss, but this man should never be allowed to referee another fight of any kind. Cardenas is probably ruined as a fighter after the unbelievable one-sided beating he took, and had this been a higher weight title fight between two better known fighters, there would be public outrage over this.
I fail to understand why Cardenas’ own corner, the ringside doctor, or the referee didn’t show Cardenas the compassion any fighter deserves. He stopped fighting back from the 4th round when he was first nailed and wobbled by an uppercut, and was allowed to take sickening punishment for almost 2 solid rounds.
This is precisely the kind of blood-sport type occurrence which has sensible liberals the world over calling for the banning of boxing, which they see as the anthropological version of bullfights and cockfighting, and who can blame them, I’m a fan of the sport, and I was disgusted by what I saw.
The only thing that I can think of which might explain this piss-poor officiating, is that all concerned were misguided by an urge to allow the champion a chance to recover. However, surely a whole round and a half of being beaten on solidly without firing anything back is enough to confirm that the fighter is totally incapable of continuing.
There should be an investigation into this potentially tragic beating sustained by Cardenas, and the reasons behind it as soon as possible.
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MightyWarrior
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That's the one. Jack Reiss should be banned for life, or charged with attempted manslaughter.
I posted a thread about it at the time. The fight got little coverage as it wasn't part of the USA PPV show, but the beating Cardenas endured was almost medieval.
God help any future fighters who come under his protective eye
I posted a thread about it at the time. The fight got little coverage as it wasn't part of the USA PPV show, but the beating Cardenas endured was almost medieval.
God help any future fighters who come under his protective eye