Great Britian Team for World Championships Chicago 2007

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 24 Sep 2007, 11:31

Is that Indian fella that gave Price a nightmare in the Semi's of the Commonwealth in this torunament?

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 24 Sep 2007, 11:36

Boxingmad wrote:I don't think they should bother with light-heavyweight. Jeffries is not good enough, and the current ABA champ Obed Mbwakango is not strong enough to fend off any decent powerful fighter. I was chatting on friday night at York Hall with an amateur who says that the Fisher boxer is basically tall with long arms and just pit-a-pats his punches. Jeffries is a bit too crude and hasn't made a mark at any international tourney if memory serves.

I disagree. Everyone deserves their shot. How harsh would it be to phone the kid and say we've decided to send someone for every division except yours because we dont think your good enough" - it wouldnt surprise me, but it would be wrong.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 24 Sep 2007, 11:52

stujones wrote:Is that Indian fella that gave Price a nightmare in the Semi's of the Commonwealth in this torunament?

Varghese Johnson was left out of the India squad for the championships, as he hadn't impressed in a recent competition.

Kit · Post by **Kit** » 24 Sep 2007, 11:57

Wales wrote:
Boxingmad wrote:I don't think they should bother with light-heavyweight. Jeffries is not good enough, and the current ABA champ Obed Mbwakango is not strong enough to fend off any decent powerful fighter. I was chatting on friday night at York Hall with an amateur who says that the Fisher boxer is basically tall with long arms and just pit-a-pats his punches. Jeffries is a bit too crude and hasn't made a mark at any international tourney if memory serves.
I disagree. Everyone deserves their shot. How harsh would it be to phone the kid and say we've decided to send someone for every division except yours because we dont think your good enough" - it wouldnt surprise me, but it would be wrong.

Maybe they are holding Obed back as he is only a baby and one for the future, but as ABA champion he deserves to go.
I boxed Obed in the ABA’s last year. Having watched him I was sure I’d be too mature and too strong but I struggled to catch the slippery git and he beat me clearly. Still getting stick for it now.
Very fast, extremely long limbed, a good mover and very quick hands!
Definitely lacking strength and punch power which is probably needed at light heavy, but a super talent reminds me a bit of Khan, style-wise.
He got stopped in an international competition recently but that was from a body shot when winning 10-0.
The computers suit him perfectly and providing he can keep it at range and he can do very well.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 24 Sep 2007, 12:09

how old is he? excuse my ignorance of the ametre game

Kit · Post by **Kit** » 24 Sep 2007, 12:16

He was only 17 when he won the ABA's, as I am reminded occassionally, he may still be that now
He also medaled at the world Juniors.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 24 Sep 2007, 14:55

I'd deffinatly send him out there then because he has a lot to learn the occasion will do him good and who knows by 2008 he may have gained some power.

Other than dificult to hit what is he like as a fighter?

contender · Post by **contender** » 24 Sep 2007, 17:26

Joe Murray has a great chance , just What ABAboxing says he needs a bit of luck in the draw.
He has Boxed very well this year picked up Medals on the road and mixed in good company.
I do think it would be great to get a medal but most of the GB team will think a quarter final place at this tournament would be their Gold medal as it means Automatic qualification to the 2008 Olympics.
With that in Mind i reckon GB will get at least 3 possibly more to that stage of this tournament.

sweetscience · Post by **sweetscience** » 24 Sep 2007, 17:48

as daft as it might sound but a worlds event could make it easier to qualify than a euro one due to the higher % of tough teams in europe than in the worlds

obviously depending on the draw

i think its near impossible for a good draw in europe

Smigga · Post by **Smigga** » 24 Sep 2007, 18:32

Old bones Ian wrote:Well 'ABA Boxing' does know his stuff, so i'm sure its just an honest assesment of the current crop of amateurs in this country.

Not necessarily so, Perkins has been in bad form recently, losing to kids he beat with ease in the past. Best bet for a medal is a bit generous to Neil

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 25 Sep 2007, 05:03

Of course I want them to do well, but if anyone thinks because the Cubans are out it will be any easier, are very much mistaken.

Britain relies on a good draw to progress in a tournament, but with there being so many excellent boxers, a good draw will be impossible. Britain gets blinded by the success at tournaments like the Commonwealth games, which is a poor Tournament.

I wish the GB team all the best, but most if not all will be out before the medal stages. That’s not being unpatriotic its just reality.

They can prove me wrong; it’s up to them to do the business!

Smigga · Post by **Smigga** » 25 Sep 2007, 11:34

ABA Boxing wrote:Of course I want them to do well, but if anyone thinks because the Cubans are out it will be any easier, are very much mistaken.

Britain relies on a good draw to progress in a tournament, but with there being so many excellent boxers, a good draw will be impossible. Britain gets blinded by the success at tournaments like the Commonwealth games, which is a poor Tournament.

I wish the GB team all the best, but most if not all will be out before the medal stages. That’s not being unpatriotic its just reality.

They can prove me wrong; it’s up to them to do the business!

I would have money on it with you that one gets a medal. No names mentioned either, lets just keep it at at least one medal

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 24 Oct 2007, 12:40

Ok thats 2 through so far on the 1st day

Joe Murray (ENG) bt Maximilliano Marquez (ARG) RSCO3 26:06
Bradley Saunders (ENG) bt Boris Katalinic (CRO) 23:12

2nd day

Stephen Smith just lost to Marcel Herfurth (Ger) 20-14

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 24 Oct 2007, 12:43

Anyone know if this will be on the BBC or Eurosport? Or anywhere we can watch it.

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 24 Oct 2007, 18:26

2nd day continued

75kg James Degale (ENG) lost to Alfonso Blanco (VEN) 28-13
75kg Tobias Webb (WAL) lost to Konstantin Buga (GER) RSCOS R3

In the next few hours

91kg Danny Price (ENG) v Clemente Russo (ITA)
+91kg David Price (ENG) v Marko Tomasovic (CRO)

Danny Price will have a very hard job to beat Russo, While David Price has every chance of beating Tomasovic.

Mario · Post by **Mario** » 24 Oct 2007, 19:22

How come DeGale and Webb are both boxing at 75kg?

I know Webb is Welsh but its the Great Britain team and i thought every country could only have 1 boxer at each weight.

Coco · Post by **Coco** » 24 Oct 2007, 23:49

Webb is Enzo Maccrinelli's Nephew

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 25 Oct 2007, 05:19

At the World Championships its England, Scotland & Wales. It could have caused some problems if they managed to get boxers to the qualifing stages. Because it will be a Great Britain Team at the Olympics and then they would have to decide who 1s going, but at the end of the day there was no fear of that hapening!

Day 2 completed and it only gets harder from now on.

91kg Danny Price (ENG) lost to Clemente Russo (ITA) 14-5
+91kg David Price (ENG) bt Marko Tomasovic (CRO) 23-11

contender · Post by **contender** » 25 Oct 2007, 22:13

Lightweight Frankie Gavin Won with a 3rd round stoppage against Omar Ward from Barbados score at time of stoppage 20 - 0.

Welterweight Neil Perkins lost 17-12 to Zoran Mitrovic SRB.

Flyweight Khalid Said beat Derenik Gizhlaryan ARM 22-10.

contender · Post by **contender** » 25 Oct 2007, 23:16

Tony Jeffries beat Hollands Daniel Kooij 13 - 6 .

Friday sees next round of competition begin With Bantamweight Joe Murray and Bradley Saunders having there 2nd contest.

Joe and Bradley are joined in the next round by Darren Langley , Khalid Said , Frankie Gavin , Tony Jeffries and David Price.

Good Luck lads.

bigped · Post by **bigped** » 26 Oct 2007, 07:02

contender wrote:Great Britian Have Named there Team for the Senior World Championships which take place in Chicago USA on October 23rd- November 4th.
This Event also doubles up as an Olympic Qualifying Event.

48 Darran Langley

51 Khalid Yafai

54 Joe Murray

57 Stephen Smith

60 Frankie Gavin

64 Bradley Saunders

69 Neil Perkins

75 James Degale

81 TBC

91 Danny Price

91& David Price

No mention of stephen simmons?? heard he was defo going??????

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 26 Oct 2007, 07:58

Is that the british team, or the english team!!!?

bigped · Post by **bigped** » 26 Oct 2007, 08:16

Wales wrote:Is that the british team, or the english team!!!?

Its a british team that went over and stephen simmons is representing britain at 91kg, he lost a close descison to price recently but hopefully give a good account of himself over there

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 26 Oct 2007, 08:28

Okay, thought the worlds was nations (scot, eng, wales etc..) but the olympics was UK ?

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 26 Oct 2007, 08:34

CHICAGO -- Two Ugandan fighters and one from Armenia were being sought by Chicago police on Thursday after going missing from their delegations at the World Boxing Championships, organizers said.

Doug Arnot of the organizing committee said the three fighters had left their respective delegations, apparently voluntarily, without contacting their trainers or team officials, and for that reason the case had been turned over to police as a missing persons search.

"When the delegations from these countries told us of the absences, we contacted the Chicago police department which will investigate the matter," Arnot said.

Chicago was given the job of hosting the championships in May after the event was withdrawn from Moscow.

Amateur boxing powerhouse Cuba chose not to send a team rather than risk fighters defecting. That decision came in the wake of the attempted defections of two Cuban boxers during the Pan American Games in July.

Their attempted defection followed last December's loss of Olympic champions Odlanier Solis, Yan Barthelemi and Yuriorquis Gamboa who quit the team while training in Venezuela for the Pan American Games.

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