Cleverley v Froch

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Post by whiskey »

The big money offer from Hennessy to SN, the cash was TV money backed by Sky.

Whenever Froch and Calzaghe are mentioned in a thread, it always comes up who'd win - thats a seperate topic really.

My point was only to illustrate exactly why the fight never happened.... and perhaps never will happen.

Each and everyone of us has our opinions on either man (i think they are both good for british boxing) - but its a shame that this may not ever happen.

Whether you wish for Froch to unscrew Joe's head with an uppercut or for Calzaghe to box Froch's tabs off - either way we will prob never know.
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Chambers2 wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:Judging skill and talent Is the best way to find out who Is right.
:lol: :lol:
I think you'll find that the best way to see who is best is for them to fight each other
Wash your mouth out at once, everyone knows that idle speculation and hypothesising is the humane and cheap way to do it. That way nobody gets hurt, and no poor underpriviledged promoter has to risk their hard earned coin.
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Lenny wrote:Carl needs to beat a world class opponent really before they start slating Calzaghe. Yes Joe has been fighting a lot of rubbish recently but he is taking on his closet rival next and it's not like Froch has been tearing his way through the likes on Inkin, Mundane, Bute, Lacy etc to force his hand. I know Carl has been injured a lot but he shouldn't assume he automatically deserves a shot at Joe for beating some C level fighters in good fashion and being British. For me this Reid fight is one huge waste of time, Froch is no spring chicken and really needs to get a move on.

Also if Froch v Calzaghe was to happen now, Joe would win a wide UD
The Reid fight is a come back fight from his injury and Reid is a difficult opponent who was thought good enough to be in a world title fight not so long ago. He's probably one of the top 25 SMWs even dispite having lost a couple in recent years.

Who do you want to see him fight after an injury lay off.
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Froch aint been out for that long. Reid in my opinion isn't top 25, is gonna bore people to death unless Froch can bash him up, teaches Froch nothing, was destroyed by a fighter who was in turn shut out by Calzaghe, a fighter he is constantly calling out. I don't think Froch has all that much to gain by fighting Reid - if he struggles with a fighter clearly past him prime (which is possible given Reid previously undentable chin) he looks bad.

I can understand the matchup (Reid has a name, former champ, can always say Calzaghe was lucky to beat him) but in my opinion Carl should be past this level by now, Reid is strictly domestic class in his current form. How about trying to make a fight with a Tsypko level opponent?
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Lenny wrote:Froch aint been out for that long. Reid in my opinion isn't top 25, is gonna bore people to death unless Froch can bash him up, teaches Froch nothing, was destroyed by a fighter who was in turn shut out by Calzaghe, a fighter he is constantly calling out. I don't think Froch has all that much to gain by fighting Reid - if he struggles with a fighter clearly past him prime (which is possible given Reid previously undentable chin) he looks bad.

I can understand the matchup (Reid has a name, former champ, can always say Calzaghe was lucky to beat him) but in my opinion Carl should be past this level by now, Reid is strictly domestic class in his current form. How about trying to make a fight with a Tsypko level opponent?
Reid would hammer tsypko.
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Post by Lenny »

Based on what, beating Jesse Brinkley on the contender?
Struggling to beat Magee despite knocking him down 4 times over 3 years ago? When was the last time Reid hammered anybody, let alone a top 20 fighter at the weight?

Tsypko would UD Reid imo
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Lenny wrote:Based on what, beating Jesse Brinkley on the contender?
Struggling to beat Magee despite knocking him down 4 times over 3 years ago? When was the last time Reid hammered anybody, let alone a top 20 fighter at the weight?

Tsypko would UD Reid imo
I'd Like to see a Tsypko kind of opponent. I'd also like to see him be more active but untill that happens there is no harm in fighting what will be a difficult oponent who has some name value.

Hopefuly Hennessy is making the next fight already. Hopefuly the Andrade rumers are true.
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Of course if he can follow this with a fight with an Andrade type opponent within a couple of months then i'll be happy again
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Post by whiskey »

It'll prob be Cristian Sanavia, the italian whom holds the EBU strap.

That will cement him as #1 challenger to whomever has the title.

If the title is vacant, i see an eliminator with Brahmer for the vacant belt.

Unless Bute comes knocking.
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Post by josh fg »

G0mez wrote:It'll prob be Cristian Sanavia, the italian whom holds the EBU strap.

That will cement him as #1 challenger to whomever has the title.

If the title is vacant, i see an eliminator with Brahmer for the vacant belt.

Unless Bute comes knocking.
Cool, how quickly is that fight likely to be with Christian fighting in Decembre I can't see it happening befor Feb or march.

Is the boxing News hint that he mite fight on the 7th of decembre if he comes through reid quick not true?
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Indeed if that rumer is true there is a fighter at SMW on the undercard of the MGM bill which seems like it could be easily made and good for froch should he win, furthermore it'd be a fight that the USA and the UK and DLH has an interest in froch. http://www.boxrec.com/date_search.php?y ... m=12&dd=08
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Post by whiskey »

Josh,

The mexico Vs England thing is just speculation at the minute.

Froch vs Andrade nearly happened on the undercard of Eastman V Hopkins, but it was pulled at the 11th hour.
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