What is King doing with the Haye-Mormeck TV?

chinny · Post by **chinny** » 31 Oct 2007, 11:00

I want to see this fight as much as anyone, but we don't know the details so there's not much point crying about it and blaming the TV stations.

The fact is Don King paid for the right to stage this fight. That means its his perogative to sell it or not to whoever. He owns the product because he paid for it.

It's not neccessarily Sky's fault and I'm sure they want to screen it. If the rights had been won by Maloney you can be sure it'd be on Sky.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 31 Oct 2007, 14:36

Terry D wrote:
Chambers2 wrote:
hitman_hatton1 wrote: a usual friday night for ya then chambers.
Hardly, I'm a pacifist! I've been drinking round the local towns since about 1991 and I've never been involved in a fight. However I'm gonna make a BIG fcuking exception and batter Sky, Don King and Setanta for not picking this one up (coonts)

I don't like downloading fights off the net, I prefer to pay for the official broadcast, but it looks like my hand is being forced

Your Seethingly

Chambers
Just ponce it off the 'net

Yeah I will do, still racked off though its never the same watching it by yourself on a laptop with French/German/Yank commentary.

I'm that pissed off I nearly got off me settee and bought a Eurostar ticket, but then I thought fcuk it and skinned up

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 31 Oct 2007, 14:41

chinny wrote:I want to see this fight as much as anyone, but we don't know the details so there's not much point crying about it and blaming the TV stations.

The fact is Don King paid for the right to stage this fight. That means its his perogative to sell it or not to whoever. He owns the product because he paid for it.

It's not neccessarily Sky's fault and I'm sure they want to screen it. If the rights had been won by Maloney you can be sure it'd be on Sky.

King is apparently a complete bastard to deal with, and Sky have gotten fed up with his ludricrous demands. What about Kingvision? I seem to recall Don doing his own telecasts in the not so distant past, with one of the cable companies carrying it and taking a cut of the PPV?

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 31 Oct 2007, 15:41

chesh wrote:Maybe Eurosport will show it in about 3 months' time. Bloody sad.

can't wait!

EddieShredder · Post by **EddieShredder** » 31 Oct 2007, 15:46

Terry D wrote:
I thought fcuk it and skinned up
You are a man with the right priorities

Seconded

Shirow · Post by **Shirow** » 31 Oct 2007, 17:24

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
Abbo wrote:WOOOOOOAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH, the tickets are not on sale anymore "Temporairement non disponible"

What's the crack here then??
F*ck.

If it wasn't for laws of defamation, there is so much I would like to put up on BBN (and have wanted to since I posted the other story a little while back).

This is not a good sign. Hope it's some web problem and not what I think.

My tickets should be delivered tomorrow and i've picked up a bunch of spares for those who don't want the Eurostar package i'm doing.
When the promoter told me that they weren't anymore available but it's possible that some are being held back for sale on the door.
If anyone's stuck pm me.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 31 Oct 2007, 18:10

chinny wrote:Setanta already have Cotto Mosley the same night.

As Setanta's business model is pay-per-month, when they have JC - Kessler and Cotto-Mosley already signed up for November, how many additional subscribers (for Nov) would the Haye fight bring?

My guess is not many because if you're a boxing fan the two they already have will have brought you through the door already.

Kessler-Calzaghe and Cotto-Mosley persuaded me to buy a new Freeview box and subscribe to Setanta. Wouldn't swap it for SKY either i don't think if offered.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 31 Oct 2007, 18:14

Well, I'll be there on November 10th, tickets already ordered, can't wait.

Hagler2002 · Post by **Hagler2002** » 31 Oct 2007, 21:56

I spoke to a Sky commentator tonight who said they where 99.9% out of the running at this stage as King is asking a fortune for TV rights.

But he also said that this has happened in the past with Don King and 1 week before the fight if he gets no takers at the price he is after he will drop his asking price substantially.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 31 Oct 2007, 22:08

Anyone know if King has had options on Haye now? I believe being mandatory options are not usually allowed (or certainly not forced) - just wondering if King has got something up his sleeve and if Haye wins could that mean the we have seen the last of him fight on UKTV.

Sorry for the pessamistic view, but this whole shananegans hasn't been good. Everything has been on and off etc. I was looking forward to a trip - but I wasn't going to book untill everything was sorted but there is no way I can get time off etc now.

If this problem has been related to King, could this continue if King has options should Haye win.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 01 Nov 2007, 03:53

I think because they went the mandatory route this is probably why the fight's taken so long.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 01 Nov 2007, 05:58

Hagler2002 wrote:I spoke to a Sky commentator tonight who said they where 99.9% out of the running at this stage as King is asking a fortune for TV rights.

But he also said that this has happened in the past with Don King and 1 week before the fight if he gets no takers at the price he is after he will drop his asking price substantially.

Come on Don do the decent thing

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 01 Nov 2007, 06:26

Not very nice of King; he's basically fvcking over a whole country if this doesn't work out.

WildWaylon · Post by **WildWaylon** » 01 Nov 2007, 07:49

Don King has been in boxing, as far as I can remember, since the Ali days - He must have more money than any boxer/ex boxer alive today so why as an old man does he want even more - Cant see Sky making a last minute deal with him myself.

chinny · Post by **chinny** » 01 Nov 2007, 08:41

Anyone ever used this?:

http://www.livefight.com/events.php

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 01 Nov 2007, 08:45

Sky have done last minute deals with King in the past. I can't see them passing this one up they're probably holding until he lowers the price.

Sky have really given Haye the big buildup.

BBN · Post by **BBN** » 01 Nov 2007, 09:00

chinny wrote:Anyone ever used this?:

http://www.livefight.com/events.php

I've had a couple of Jalipo's fights on BBN

Yes it's great that they are streaming Calzaghe-Kessler.

ONE BIG PROBLEM, you can't see it in the UK or the US!, now how do you change your IP so it thinks your in Australia! :-)

THEBUTCH · Post by **THEBUTCH** » 01 Nov 2007, 09:02

But, nickd, it's on a Saturday night and when was the last time we got saturday night boxing on Sky that wasn't PPV ?

At this stage I'll be happy if Sky show a recording...or anyone for that matter. Kudos to those packing their bags and heading to France for this one. You should be rewarded with a cracking fight.

chinny · Post by **chinny** » 01 Nov 2007, 09:08

Is it even on in the states? I'll be in NY for Cotto Mosley and this would be a terrific warm up

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 01 Nov 2007, 09:46

THEBUTCH wrote:But, nickd, it's on a Saturday night and when was the last time we got saturday night boxing on Sky that wasn't PPV ?

At this stage I'll be happy if Sky show a recording...or anyone for that matter. Kudos to those packing their bags and heading to France for this one. You should be rewarded with a cracking fight.

Not since they started Football First.

Come on Setanta save the day!

BBN · Post by **BBN** » 01 Nov 2007, 12:15

BBN wrote:
chinny wrote:Anyone ever used this?:

http://www.livefight.com/events.php
I've had a couple of Jalipo's fights on BBN

Yes it's great that they are streaming Calzaghe-Kessler.

ONE BIG PROBLEM, you can't see it in the UK or the US!, now how do you change your IP so it thinks your in Australia! :-)

Just had this from Jalipo

We regret to inform you that the planned live stream for Calzaghre has
been CANCELLED

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 05 Nov 2007, 14:01

Any news yet? I really want to see this one.

Flav1 · Post by **Flav1** » 05 Nov 2007, 14:34

Likewise. Is King still holding out?

Anyone know if he's sold the TV rights to anyone outside the UK?

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 06 Nov 2007, 05:05

Next week Sky Sports are showing a Wednesday slot - Barker Commonwealth etc. Maybe Fri 16th, which has no boxing set, we'll get delayed coverage of Haye-Mormeck. Hope so.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 06 Nov 2007, 06:11

Autobarn wrote:Next week Sky Sports are showing a Wednesday slot. Maybe Fri 16th, which has no boxing set, we'll get delayed coverage of Haye-Mormeck. Hope so.

fingers crossed its Haye-Mormeck