Chauncy Welliver

AntonS · Post by **AntonS** » 03 Nov 2007, 11:10

You're now 24, so isn't it about time you grew up?
You're a big boy physically, but it seems top end is slightly off balance. :P

Chauncy · Post by **Chauncy** » 03 Nov 2007, 17:50

AntonS wrote:You're now 24, so isn't it about time you grew up?
You're a big boy physically, but it seems top end is slightly off balance. :P

There is just no way you can convince me that it's OK for you to change a result when the commissioner himself told you I didn't lose, and have a clear mind about it.

N2 Shape · Post by **N2 Shape** » 03 Nov 2007, 20:57

I cant help but think what an absolute joke it is that this fight has been changed AGAIN let alone into a lose!

Records and results cannot be taken seriously on boxrec if this sort of thing continues!

Klee Gluckman · Post by **Klee Gluckman** » 04 Nov 2007, 22:37

Bad decisions are part of Boxing. On the night the other guy was announced as the winner. I was there live Chauncy. Panterra said it was a close fight on the night.

Chauncy · Post by **Chauncy** » 05 Nov 2007, 19:14

Klee Gluckman wrote:Bad decisions are part of Boxing. On the night the other guy was announced as the winner. I was there live Chauncy. Panterra said it was a close fight on the night.

It was a very competitive fight. He was announced the winner, but because the judge added his card wrong.
How's Pantera doing?

Richard Nwoba · Post by **Richard Nwoba** » 12 Nov 2007, 08:39

Chauncy! Just forget about that issue it dosent mean anything.

Cheers,

AntonS · Post by **AntonS** » 12 Nov 2007, 13:12

but because the judge added his card wrong.

??
Is that so?
Recorder adds-up scores & not judges.

As far as a judge ADMITTING to you or anyone else he stuffed up is as good as me being the next man holidaying on the moon :P

AntonS · Post by **AntonS** » 12 Nov 2007, 14:33

BTW, If anyone comes across a Judge that will admit he stuffed -up please let me know so I've got a good reason to jump into my fart sack, curl-up & die.

Chauncy · Post by **Chauncy** » 13 Nov 2007, 18:29

AntonS wrote:BTW, If anyone comes across a Judge that will admit he stuffed -up please let me know so I've got a good reason to jump into my fart sack, curl-up & die.

McCrystal already told you the judge wrote a letter saying he messed up! Must be you don't like Americans???

AntonS · Post by **AntonS** » 14 Nov 2007, 02:03

Must be you don't like Americans???

Only the ones that spread false paperwork to have the result changed :P

SteveO · Post by **SteveO** » 14 Nov 2007, 10:46

As a compromise, how about a note under the fight explaining the circumstances?
Just a thought.

N2 Shape · Post by **N2 Shape** » 14 Nov 2007, 16:07

if theres false paperwork it needs to be proven beyond doubt. One man cannot just decide for himself its false.

As an editor it should be your job to make sure all results are 100% legit and in this case they are not so the result should be a NC. Simple as that.

AntonS · Post by **AntonS** » 14 Nov 2007, 16:38

Craig
The letter that was sent to Venezuelan editor Mike DeLisa, who in turn sent it to me was a forgery.
Sure it had McCrystal's signature & his Justice of Peace stamp, but other details on the document i.e. email address, tel number & address was NOT his.

When I phoned him about it he was somewhat surprised to hear about it.

In case you didn't know, McCrystal isn't exactly known for written correspondence. He seems to prefer to ring thru results than write them out & fax them.

Chauncy · Post by **Chauncy** » 14 Nov 2007, 19:20

AntonS wrote:Craig
The letter that was sent to Venezuelan editor Mike DeLisa, who in turn sent it to me was a forgery.
Sure it had McCrystal's signature & his Justice of Peace stamp, but other details on the document i.e. email address, tel number & address was NOT his.

When I phoned him about it he was somewhat surprised to hear about it.

In case you didn't know, McCrystal isn't exactly known for written correspondence. He seems to prefer to ring thru results than write them out & fax them.

I sent what was given to me. Gary said, and SAYS, this is a No Contest, and remains to be, case closed! I spoke with Gary about a week ago, and he said this was still the case.
Gary has a letter, from the judge stating he made a mistake on his scoring of the fight, and you yourself said Gary said that Anton!

Why the sudden change? I'm not being a dick when I say that. That's a real question. This was changed over a year ago for good. You yourself said Anton this was a dead case and Gary told you. What's the deal?

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AntonS · Post by **AntonS** » 14 Nov 2007, 19:32

It was NEVER going to be a closed case until now my friend. I was eventually going to get on top of it.
I have since found out more than you care to know. Craig, yourself & anyone else can go on for ever & ever but nothing is going to change.
END OF STORY

You are probably doing yourself more harm than good by carrying on like 2 bob watch.

Good Bye!

AntonS · Post by **AntonS** » 14 Nov 2007, 19:38

BTW, Gary never gave me reason why it was changed to NC and I really didn't care 'cos I knew the reason. :P

Chauncy · Post by **Chauncy** » 14 Nov 2007, 20:11

AntonS wrote:BTW, Gary never gave me reason why it was changed to NC and I really didn't care 'cos I knew the reason. :P

What was the reason?

AntonS · Post by **AntonS** » 14 Nov 2007, 20:34

Obnoxious bullshit

Chauncy · Post by **Chauncy** » 14 Nov 2007, 20:41

AntonS wrote:Obnoxious bullshit

Not getting that, but whatever! You changed the commission result. You should just change all results for guys you don't like?

AntonS · Post by **AntonS** » 14 Nov 2007, 21:32

You should just change all results for guys you don't like?

= Obnoxious Bullshit

brett · Post by **brett** » 15 Nov 2007, 00:47

AntonS wrote:BTW, If anyone comes across a Judge that will admit he stuffed -up please let me know so I've got a good reason to jump into my fart sack, curl-up & die.

does this count?

http://www.indianexpress.com/res/web/pI ... 16083.html

just curious.

AntonS · Post by **AntonS** » 15 Nov 2007, 02:37

Totally different situation Brett.
Mistakes can & do happen, but proper procedure is to approach the ‘Officiating’ body ASAP & not a BoxRec editor on the other side of the world with falsified paperwork to change the result.

Why not approach Mike Attree, Brad Vocale, Graham Dicker or myself , who are by far more familiar with NZ boxing & its many head honchos than editor Mike DeLisa, to sort it out??

Brad & I know all of them inside out & upside down...we've been around for quite a while and as such we are well aware of NZ's boxing politics/bullshit :P

John Shep is very familiar with my background...hence the locking rights.

AntonS · Post by **AntonS** » 15 Nov 2007, 03:24

BTW Chauncy, surely you didn't think OPBF president (& WBC ratings chair) Frank Quill was going to fall for 'half Yank half Kiwi' in your attempt to fight for OPBF title???
FYI, Frank wasn't born yesterday :P OPBF is the only Regional body that is and always will be very strict on residentially qualified.

Chauncy · Post by **Chauncy** » 15 Nov 2007, 20:06

AntonS wrote:Totally different situation Brett.
Mistakes can & do happen, but proper procedure is to approach the ‘Officiating’ body ASAP & not a BoxRec editor on the other side of the world with falsified paperwork to change the result.

Why not approach Mike Attree, Brad Vocale, Graham Dicker or myself , who are by far more familiar with NZ boxing & its many head honchos than editor Mike DeLisa, to sort it out??

Brad & I know all of them inside out & upside down...we've been around for quite a while and as such we are well aware of NZ's boxing politics/bullshit :P

John Shep is very familiar with my background...hence the locking rights.

I would first like to add, I contacted Mike as I know him from cyberboxingzone.com and he was the only boxrec-editor I knew. I contacted him, and John Glozier sent him the info that McCrystal gave him.

Also Anton, please get your facts straight. I NEVER once told anybody in the World I was half Kiwi. I told Quill I have residency in New Zealand, and I still do. That can not go into question as I have it, and have had it for almost 3 years.

AntonS · Post by **AntonS** » 17 Nov 2007, 10:02

Done a check, which reviled you've never been granted permanent residency. Which is understable...Why grant one if one has no intention to live there permanently???

I simply love your bullshit so keep it up

No doubt this thread will hit all time record views. You can whinge as much as you like, but in the end......nothing will change. :P

On second thought....Do yourself a favour & walk away from it.

Cheers from this somewhat PEDANTIC BoxRec's recorder