Calzaghe V Kessler: Ongoing Thread Throughout The Night

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steve689 wrote:Mine has a bun in the oven too. She suddenly announced at 6pm she wanted to spend the night in a hotel where her friends wedding is taking place. I just laughed my head off and she huffed off upstairs to bed leaving me with the lounge as my own domain for the night. Couldn't have planned it better myself :TU:
You should join the UN, nicely done :TU:
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Autobarn wrote:Enzo's 2nd KO of recent done via illegal punch (following the 1st rd KO of Hobson).

Can't sympathise with Azzaoui, because he turned away, making his back a target.
I thought that too, was sat near ringside watching it and said it was illegal but got shouted down by everyone around me.
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steve689 wrote:It's a joke, how does this kind of fight enforce Enzo Macarinelli as the number one? He stood up and battered an inept "challenger" into submission. I'm not knocking Enzo, he's a talent but his matchmaking leaves a lot to be desired. One step forward, two (or sometimes 3!) steps back.

He wasn't fighting Cunningham, Bell, Mormceck, Haye, Huck, Wlodarcyzk, Adamek or even Wilson in there. He was in with Mohammed Azzaoui. Must be one of the only world champions around today with such a string of none world class names (Braithwaite aside) on his recent ledger.
Spot on, he said he wouldn't have a 3rd fight with Hobson cause this is a step back but I'd bet he would have got a harder work out with Hobson than he did on Sat. I think Hobson in the first fight gave him the hardest test he'd ever had, I thought Hobson may have even edged it!
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NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
KO Artist wrote:Joe's bird is fcucking awesome :box:
You're not wrong :lol:
Not close up she isn't, had alot of work done, looks a bit plastic. Wasn't overly impressed.
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I'm glad I went live and didn't watch the Setanta feed. When I saw Woods in the studio with Bunce I pissed myself laughing, Bunce nearly sucks Woodhall off everytime they're on together listing his achievements, fornicate knows what he was like with the current LHW IBF champion - was it bad?
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Also noticed up to the Calzaghe fight that every fight was won by the fighter in the blue corner, was shitting it that Joe was going to be in the red!
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Did you catch allegedly on the TV feed, switching seats in I think the 4th round, he wasn't happy with something and had a word with Enzo, Joe went out for the 5th and things in Franks mind hadn't changed and he came over again and actually spoke to Joe on his stool.

I wonder what that could have been?
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Calzaghe-Kessler Commentary

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just had to post to comment on how awful the commentary on Setanta was. I'm as big a Calzaghe fan as anyone but it was embarrassing to hear Rawling and Woodhall praising Joe to the high heavens whenever he did anything remotely useful. Listening to them Joe had it won at a canter from about Round 2 onwards. How people can say they were pro-Kessler is beyond me. Usually i like Rawling but he must have been on the Sports Network payroll sat night.

and am i the only one getting tired of Joe going on about "10 years a world champ" "unbeaten" "not bad for an old man" etc etc. It's one thing for your fans and critics to sing your praises but a bit off to keep harping on yourself, in the hope of getting the 'respect' you feel you have been lacking over the years. He hasn't got the 'love' afforded Hatton as Ricky is humble and doesn't take himself too seriously, Joe just seems bitter. I for one am going off him.

and showboating again? cut it out. found myself wanting Kessler to land a meaty right to knock that out of him. if only so he doesn't look a total n*b like he did with the worst showboating EVER against Bika.


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Re: Calzaghe-Kessler Commentary

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mattpetrie wrote:just had to post to comment on how awful the commentary on Setanta was. I'm as big a Calzaghe fan as anyone but it was embarrassing to hear Rawling and Woodhall praising Joe to the high heavens whenever he did anything remotely useful. Listening to them Joe had it won at a canter from about Round 2 onwards. How people can say they were pro-Kessler is beyond me. Usually i like Rawling but he must have been on the Sports Network payroll sat night.

and am i the only one getting tired of Joe going on about "10 years a world champ" "unbeaten" "not bad for an old man" etc etc. It's one thing for your fans and critics to sing your praises but a bit off to keep harping on yourself, in the hope of getting the 'respect' you feel you have been lacking over the years. He hasn't got the 'love' afforded Hatton as Ricky is humble and doesn't take himself too seriously, Joe just seems bitter. I for one am going off him.

and showboating again? cut it out. found myself wanting Kessler to land a meaty right to knock that out of him. if only so he doesn't look a total n*b like he did with the worst showboating EVER against Bika.


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Bitter? No way, the things he was saying was coming from a man he was elated at becoming the linear SMW champion of the world. The things he says are all in response to the critics, the Yanks etc who always find excuses to mock Joe and his achievements. I would say he was quite humble, there is nothing flash, cocky or arrogant about him, he's a home town lad come good!
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it wasn't just last night though, it seems that every interview he does he has to take a swipe at his critics. i agree that he hasn't had the credit he deserves, and as i said i'm as big a fan as anyone, but i wish he'd leave the praise and recognition to come from the doubters rather than try and force the issue himself.

as for nothing flash and arrogant, outside the ring i'd agree. but his showboating against Bika WAS pitiful, and he dropped his hands against kessler, did a little Ali shuffle, and then raised his hands during the final round a la the Lacy fight. he deserved that against Lacy as he proved all the doubters wrong, didn't feel it was necessary though against Kessler.
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Grilling Machine wrote:Calzaghe is an ATG now, but there's still a spectre over him: Chris Eubank. (Plus all the '80s and early-'90s middles and SMs.) While it takes a brave man to force Joe back, he is less capable on the backfoot so long as you don't chase him in a straight line. Do that and he's majestic, as the Lacy fight shows.

A guy with Tyson's early style has the best chance. And maybe that was a prime Eubank? A good tactic against Joe is to push him back, and roll/slip to his right, since the lead hook has never been his favoured punch; he prefers to step aside and bring the straight-left over. He's just so, so quick. He can afford the mistakes because of that supreme agility.
A PRIME EUBANK WAS LOWER THAN HE WAS POST WATSON, USING THE RING AND THE ANGLES MORE TO LOOK FOR THE SNEAK RIGHT HAND, BUT CALZAGHE IS A SOUTHPAW..... LOOKING AT THE STRETCH FIGHT, EUBANK STAYED JUST OUT OF RANGE, LOW AND WAITED PATIENTLY TO TIME AN EXPLOSIVE SHOT, BUT CALZAGHE HAS MUCH FASTER REACTIONS THAN GARY OF COURSE AND WE HAVE TO REMEMBER CHRIS WAS PICKED OFF LEFT, RIGHT AND UPWARDS AGAINST THAT FAT SOUTHPAW (SCHOMMER) IN AFRICA OR WHEREVER IT WAS

I SEE A PRIME EUBANK USING THE RING AND THE ANGLES AGAINST CALZAGHE AND LOOKING TO TIME FAST LEAD RIGHTS AND FLURRIES TO THE BODY AND HEAD, WHEN CALZAGHE SQUARES UP AFTER MISSING EUBANK WOULD MAKE HIM PAY WITH LEAPING COUNTERS/FLURRIES. IT COULD BE CLOSE BUT EUBANK WOULD HAVE TO GET HIM OUT OF THERE AND I BELIEVE HE WOULD!
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Crew2 wrote:
Grilling Machine wrote:Calzaghe is an ATG now, but there's still a spectre over him: Chris Eubank. (Plus all the '80s and early-'90s middles and SMs.) While it takes a brave man to force Joe back, he is less capable on the backfoot so long as you don't chase him in a straight line. Do that and he's majestic, as the Lacy fight shows.

A guy with Tyson's early style has the best chance. And maybe that was a prime Eubank? A good tactic against Joe is to push him back, and roll/slip to his right, since the lead hook has never been his favoured punch; he prefers to step aside and bring the straight-left over. He's just so, so quick. He can afford the mistakes because of that supreme agility.
A PRIME EUBANK WAS LOWER THAN HE WAS POST WATSON, USING THE RING AND THE ANGLES MORE TO LOOK FOR THE SNEAK RIGHT HAND, BUT CALZAGHE IS A SOUTHPAW..... LOOKING AT THE STRETCH FIGHT, EUBANK STAYED JUST OUT OF RANGE, LOW AND WAITED PATIENTLY TO TIME AN EXPLOSIVE SHOT, BUT CALZAGHE HAS MUCH FASTER REACTIONS THAN GARY OF COURSE AND WE HAVE TO REMEMBER CHRIS WAS PICKED OFF LEFT, RIGHT AND UPWARDS AGAINST THAT FAT SOUTHPAW (SCHOMMER) IN AFRICA OR WHEREVER IT WAS

I SEE A PRIME EUBANK USING THE RING AND THE ANGLES AGAINST CALZAGHE AND LOOKING TO TIME FAST LEAD RIGHTS AND FLURRIES TO THE BODY AND HEAD, WHEN CALZAGHE SQUARES UP AFTER MISSING EUBANK WOULD MAKE HIM PAY WITH LEAPING COUNTERS/FLURRIES. IT COULD BE CLOSE BUT EUBANK WOULD HAVE TO GET HIM OUT OF THERE AND I BELIEVE HE WOULD!
I think if JC fought a prime Eubank that JC would beat him in the same way he beat Kessler.

He would be weary of Eubanks right hand, esp if he was stunned a couple of times, and box behind his jab.
Ultimately he would be too busy and win a UD in a close hard fought contest
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EUBANK WAS THE MASTER AT STAYING JUST OUT OF DISTANCE THOUGH, HE BASICALLY DIDN'T GET HIT WITH JABS (WATSON DIDN'T LAND ONE, FOR EXAMPLE)! YOU HAD TO DRAW HIM, HE HAD SUCH GOOD BALANCE ON THE BACKFOOT THAT YOU HAD TO DRAW HIM FORWARD OR BASICALLY LOSE -DRAW HIM FORWARD WHERE HE HAD SHIT BALANCE ON THE FRONTFOOT AND YOU CAN MAKE HIM LOOK SHIT
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think Clinton could be a hard fight. Clinton is less mechanical than Kessler, he used angles and short punches a lot more, has an iron chin, and will have power that can trouble Joe.

I actually think it would be a great fight.
funnily enough, ages ago i was saying that whilte kessler is better/more meaningufl, woods' right hand work and size would make it a good war. I love the british battles as well, as they seem to bring the best from both sides (ala Calzaghe-Woodhall/Reid). clinton makes a GREAT case for himself why he should get a fight vs Joe:
IBF light heavyweight champion Clinton Woods has taken offense against the sportsbook who established as a 4:1 underdog to unified super middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe, should that fight ever be made. "I'm not 4-1 against anyone, that just complete rubbish, and with all due respect to Joe's great win, a lot of people believe he was beaten by Robin Reid and he was knocked down by Byron Mitchell and Karaby Salem. Again, with respect, I am a lot better that all three of them put together and I've been a light heavyweight for nearly a decade. I will be stronger and a harder puncher than anyone Joe has ever faced. It would be fantastic fight." Woods also scoffed at the idea of a proposed fight between Calzaghe and 42-year-old former middleweight champion Bernard Hopkins. "Name me one exciting Bernard Hopkins fight, just one," challenged Woods. "Exactly! The guy is a complete bore to watch, good as he is. He doesn't bring any friends to the arena, much less any fans...let's be honest, Hopkins is only interested in easy nights against undersized opponents or opponents he recognizes as being past their best and Joe is big and in his prime. Hopkins is on cruise and collect mode, he's on a pension run. If the fight ever did happen, Hopkins would will try and pick-pocket his way to a close points win and we've seen Joe get dragged down into messy, scrappy fights by guys who come with avoiding getting hurt as their top priority. Who on Earth wants to see that?"
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