Wladimir Klitschko - Frank Bruno

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 09 Nov 2007, 09:48

After stirring up the hornet's nest that was Wlad-Willard I'm sure you can see my angle on where this is going.

Anyway. Can Bruno finish what Sam Peter couldn't?

The Great John L · Post by **The Great John L** » 09 Nov 2007, 10:23

Ezzard wrote:After stirring up the hornet's nest that was Wlad-Willard I'm sure you can see my angle on where this is going.

Anyway. Can Bruno finish what Sam Peter couldn't?

Yes, Bruno stopping Wlad seems like a very probable outcome.

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 09 Nov 2007, 10:25

I see an aggressive Bruno not only stopping Wladimir, but outjabbing him as well, just like he did Lennox.

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 09 Nov 2007, 10:25

I think the power punching Bruno would crack Vlads egg shell chin

ebeneezer · Post by **ebeneezer** » 09 Nov 2007, 12:39

The Great John L wrote:
Ezzard wrote:After stirring up the hornet's nest that was Wlad-Willard I'm sure you can see my angle on where this is going.

Anyway. Can Bruno finish what Sam Peter couldn't?
Yes, Bruno stopping Wlad seems like a very probable outcome.

Bruno freezing after getting hit with a hard shot and taking a pounding against the ropes until the ref jumps in is a very probable outcome as well.

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 09 Nov 2007, 14:54

I picked the more talented of the two Klitschko's to beat Willard, & I would again do so over Bruno. C'mon guys, it's Bruno. He lost every big fight he was ever in. Klitschko has his flaws but there seems to be some real resentment on this board towards him (Nothing being directed at you above posters here, just making a note of general threads involving him). Klitschko has a strong jab, very good power, decent finishing ability & is a competent, if not great boxer.

Much of the same could be said for Bruno I guess, but somehow I don't imagine him knocking out, or for that matter beating, Klitschko.

TKO9.

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 09 Nov 2007, 16:20

Goodnight, Irene wrote:I picked the more talented of the two Klitschko's to beat Willard, & I would again do so over Bruno. C'mon guys, it's Bruno. He lost every big fight he was ever in. Klitschko has his flaws but there seems to be some real resentment on this board towards him (Nothing being directed at you above posters here, just making a note of general threads involving him). Klitschko has a strong jab, very good power, decent finishing ability & is a competent, if not great boxer.

Much of the same could be said for Bruno I guess, but somehow I don't imagine him knocking out, or for that matter beating, Klitschko.

TKO9.

Lost every big fight he was in? Klitschko has managed to lose the small fights he was in.
Look at the difference in opposition for crying out loud. Do you honestly see Wlad lasting the distance vs Witherspoon, Tyson, and Lewis?? Or after having only 22 fights beating Smith? By contrast Klitschko at 20-something fights lost to Purrity, then went on to lose to Sanders and Brewster. Had to get off of canvas and hold almost 100 times to beat Peter. Peter's not even as good as the McCall that Bruno beat.

1989 Tyson vs Klitschko would just be outright scary to watch.

The Great John L · Post by **The Great John L** » 09 Nov 2007, 17:02

df, thanks for saving me the trouble.

The over rating of someone like Wlad with so few accomplishments is pretty sad. I guess it's due to media hype...

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 10 Nov 2007, 00:21

Not a lot of media hype surrounding Wlad Klitschko in Australia, hard as that is to believe.

I just don't think the guy is a terrible fighter or anything. He sure isn't going to be the best fighter in history or anything but who's beating him next in this forum? Bruce Seldon?

Or was Frank Bruno that good in the estimation of yourselves?

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 10 Nov 2007, 10:21

It took a top class tough guy with chin & big power to beat Bruno.

Who did it take to beat Wlad? Fringe contenders & journeymen who had already lost to the likes of Charles Shufford, Nate Tubbs, Cliff Ettienne, so many more names.

I love this little 'rennaisance' Wlad is having beating up on guys who dont fight back & getting hyped by HBO, yet again.

Bruno would come forward throwing big shots & Wlad would go into his deer in headlights routine. Early & crushing kayo.

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 10 Nov 2007, 10:46

Before we put Bruno on a pedestal, let's remember Bonecrusher Smith did almost nothing for 8 rounds, then the first time he really mounted an offense it was quickly over for Bruno. Then he got stopped by a noticeably out of shape Tim Witherspoon (the fat on his sides jiggled every time he through a punch, yet he outlasted the finely chisled Bruno)

A fight between these two would come down to who ever lands first, and BOTH guys are a bit lacking as far as having solid chins. Wlad has gotten much better though at avoiding being hit, and he's shown more heart in getting up off the canvas when he has been. Bruno would have a chance. but with Steward in his corner, I think Wlad takes a safety first approach until he see's the opening, and then he lands a bomb on Bruno around the 7th round from which he doesn't recover.

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 10 Nov 2007, 10:59

Better at avoiding getting hit? Look who he's fought . . .and under Steward he's lost by TKO (Brewster I) and hit the canvas another 4 times (Williamson 1, Peter 3) Again, these fighters are nowhere near the calibre of the guys Bruno lost to. And his surviving the Peter bout comes down more to Peter being an awful finisher/awful conditioning/bad fighter than Wlad pulling some sort of Archie Moore/Durelle.

Witherspoon may have been a little overweight but he had a big advantage; the absence of nerves. Klitschko, especially now, fights SO scared of getting hit, he'll give away rounds to the likes of Calvin Brock b/c he's afraid of getting caught with a counter. It also makes Wlad tire quicker. Tim on the other hand fought as cool as cabbage (sometimes too cool) . .he was extremely relaxed and able to maintain late fight power and energy b/c of it.

Yes Bruno didn't have the best whiskers and he COULD freeze once caught, so I wouldn't count out a Wlad knockout victory if Wlad can land a big right hand/left hook early. But I think Bruno's jab and strength will put Klitschko in a shell and once Bruno opens up more Wlad will get in big trouble once the first solid punch lands.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 10 Nov 2007, 11:47

Seamus wrote:Before we put Bruno on a pedestal, let's remember Bonecrusher Smith did almost nothing for 8 rounds, then the first time he really mounted an offense it was quickly over for Bruno. Then he got stopped by a noticeably out of shape Tim Witherspoon (the fat on his sides jiggled every time he through a punch, yet he outlasted the finely chisled Bruno)
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1. Completely false. Watch the tape. Bruno kept Bonecrusher on the end of a long hard jab & intimidateds him witht he right, but Bonecrusher was always in there swinging. Bruno won 9 straight rds and in the 10th seemed to try go out 'and make a statement' and we all know about the volley of punches he took.

2. Is boxing a body beautiful contest? I love how you forget a grossly overweight 38 yr old Sanders bouncing the Greek God-built Wlad off the floor.

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