Haye Vs. Mormeck Rd by Rd

BAMBI · Post by **BAMBI** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:34

hell yeahhh!!!

Boxing needs to be respected again as a main player in British Sports!!!

sendo · Post by **sendo** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:35

Cannibal wrote:POST FIGHT THOUGHTS

Haye is the new WBA/WBC champ but it was FAR from a great performance from him.

All through the fight Mormeck was backing him up onto the ropes with no punches thrown to get him there and on top of this he was backing up in straight lines which is what resulted in his knockdown in the 4th.

The first time Haye actually opened up fully was in the 7th and that's where he ended it, so Haye's power pulled him out of a poor performance.

Should they meet, I'd favour Enzo.

Enzo is not in the same class as either of these two fighters. Enzo doesn't have the movement to back Haye up let alone the handspeed to get through before Haye bombs him out.

BAMBI · Post by **BAMBI** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:35

lool

look at Enzo's lil smirk!!!

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:35

Cannibal wrote: The first time Haye actually opened up fully was in the 7th and that's where he ended it, so Haye's power pulled him out of a poor performance.

JMM did seem to fall apart in there though, he looked like a rock taking those punches early on.

SticknMove · Post by **SticknMove** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:35

Fooking great stuff. Great right uppercut to set up the right hand payoff.

Another British World Champ. GET IN!

Manc_Red · Post by **Manc_Red** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:36

The left hand of Haye has to be sorted out soon, Enzo in the studio will surely comment on it and maybe he'll be fighting him soon enough and get the chance to capitalize on the problem

Haye was under severe pressure in this but for me he never got out of 2nd gear until the end.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:36

Riddick Blowe wrote:sounds though like hes never gonna have the stamina/chin to succeed at heavy

yeah looking forward someone like povetkin would eat him for breakfast on that form.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:37

Great win, congrats to Haye. And a nice bloke too.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:37

Nice one, Haye - TREMENDOUS turn around - what fighting guts he showed. He looked out of it in the 4th and his power didn't seem to have ANY affect. Then BOOM. Good stoppage also.

Appologies for ever doubting that Haye had the ability to turn around adversity.

I would favour Enzo now though.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:37

What a turnaround, I thought he'd blown his chance with that cautious start, but those finishing shots were dynamite.

Comes back from a knockdown in the champs backyard to win the undisputed titles ( listening Enzo? ) by sensational KO. Doesn't get much better - what a 7 days for British boxing

Mukel · Post by **Mukel** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:37

Good fight!!!

I had Haye drawing at the time of the knockout, due to the knockdown,
other wise he'd have been ahead slightly.

I was impressed with his stamina, he didnt seem tired, he did pick his punches up until the 6th round, one thing id like to mention all though Haye went down, he did seem to take a few good shots without blinking,
the sort of shots that have had him in trouble in the past, maybe he wasnt as drained for this fight either way, improved stamina, and at the end of the day he got the big W.

Id favour him over Enzo, though it could go either way, just feel his speed is his advantage.

Bring on the heavys, he can only get better and stronger from here to be honest, no more weight drain.

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:38

how do you feel to be one of 7 world champions?

HAYE: To be honest, I'm one of THREE British world champions

:P Tell it like it is.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:38

You just know some questions will be asked about Mormeck's performance, he looked strangely out of sorts there. But i knew he could be outboxed, Gurov did it and Haye followed the blueprint (for some of the rounds anyway!) and made the champ look ponderous and one paced.

Well done David!

SticknMove · Post by **SticknMove** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:38

Yeah you have say that Haye does look vulnerable allowing to be backed up with his left hand down. Why he does that is anyone's guess.

I'm not sure I fancy him at HW to be honest.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:40

Great win for Haye but as has been said he wasn't that impressive then again he was fighting the best Cruiser in the world.

He'll definitely come a cropper with that low left hand. He has no defence for a right hand.

Over the moon about the result though!!

martinperks1981 · Post by **martinperks1981** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:41

Gentlemen, thanks very much for the commentry, was worried about Haye at one pint but his Power shone through!! We have another champ!!

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:41

Let's give Haye massive credit. He burned out 2 stone, waited months for his title crack, went abroad, and just won the WBC/WBA cruiser titles.

Haye broke him down with body shots. He looked like a heavyweight in there. Had trouble punching down to a small guy. But he used the body shots & the uppercuts and he won.

He had a Lennox Lewis look about him. Patient, steady, gathered himself. Shouldn't be fighting these small guys any more. Move up to heavy. Hit tjhose chins that are hanging up in the air.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:43

nickd wrote:He'll definitely come a cropper with that low left hand. He has no defence for a right hand.

Yes you are exactly right. My Setanta connection is starting to falter

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:43

Massive credit no doubt but Enzo looked more Lennox like against Braithwaite than Haye did tonight.

Cannibal · Post by **Cannibal** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:44

sendo wrote:
Cannibal wrote:POST FIGHT THOUGHTS

Haye is the new WBA/WBC champ but it was FAR from a great performance from him.

All through the fight Mormeck was backing him up onto the ropes with no punches thrown to get him there and on top of this he was backing up in straight lines which is what resulted in his knockdown in the 4th.

The first time Haye actually opened up fully was in the 7th and that's where he ended it, so Haye's power pulled him out of a poor performance.

Should they meet, I'd favour Enzo.
Enzo is not in the same class as either of these two fighters. Enzo doesn't have the movement to back Haye up let alone the handspeed to get through before Haye bombs him out.

Enzo is one of the most improved fighters around in my mind. I think he'd win the jab battle and have enough power to make that low left hand of Haye's pay. Would be a rollercoaster battle though with possibly both men hitting the deck during the fight.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:45

Phil Jones tried to allude to Haye ducking Enzo

Wondered how long before that would come out. Maybe Enzo and Haye can do a catchweight?

Flav1 · Post by **Flav1** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:46

ENZO IS A SPOON

lurkyshaka · Post by **lurkyshaka** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:46

So Haye looked patchy at times and his defense was a bit pourous. But the facts remain Haye killed himself to make the cruiser limit, went to France and bombed out the Champ after being on the deck himself. Lets not even talk about the heavyweights yet, lets just enjoy what Haye achieved tonight on its own merit. The guy deserves a ton of credit, end of.

sendo · Post by **sendo** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:46

Max Molyneux wrote:Massive credit no doubt but Enzo looked more Lennox like against Braithwaite than Haye did tonight.

Braithwaite is not in the same class as Mormeck and even then Enzo could not stop him. Braithwaite didn't exactly look like he even wanted to win for most of that fight.

Not to say Haye - Enzo wouldn't be a good fight or a certainty, but Enzo's poor and carefully selected opposition is flattering him imo.

Grilling Machine · Post by **Grilling Machine** » 10 Nov 2007, 17:47

Unless he wants to fight Ruiz, he needs to get that left hand up and stop leaning in. Ibragimov would be the ideal, as Haye said, but Wlad's gonna ruin that one no doubt.

It felt like I was watching a dream Audley once had, where he was Ali...