cramptons arrive london,england.

middleman · Post by **middleman** » 08 Nov 2007, 20:16

team bazooka hav touch down in pommie land a wk ahead of his commonwealth title shot against darren barker.my good friend in london tells me they wont get any favors over here a wk out from the fight.

things will be made difficult 4 him 2 try 2 upset him b 4the fight,put him of his fightplan,all fighters fighting out of there country wood go threw it i guess,good luck to ben

razor7 · Post by **razor7** » 08 Nov 2007, 20:44

Keep us updated. I'm sure Ben will give it his best shot.Great to see an Aussie fighting for a Commonwealth title.While these alphabet regional titles give our guys a rating generally the Commonwealth titles are still a better standard of opponent.It's obviously cheaper to fight for the Mickey Mouse Pacific pan Asian whatever "titles" which is a shame.

Ross · Post by **Ross** » 08 Nov 2007, 23:12

razor7 wrote:Keep us updated. I'm sure Ben will give it his best shot.Great to see an Aussie fighting for a Commonwealth title.While these alphabet regional titles give our guys a rating generally the Commonwealth titles are still a better standard of opponent.It's obviously cheaper to fight for the Mickey Mouse Pacific pan Asian whatever "titles" which is a shame.

well put, couldnt agree more a Cwth title is only one step below a world title

middleman · Post by **middleman** » 10 Nov 2007, 01:41

i was spot on about getting no favors,ben crampton cant even get in to a gym yet to do any trainning,4 days out from his commonwelth title bid, :(

are we like that when fighters come to australia?

banjaxd · Post by **banjaxd** » 10 Nov 2007, 08:39

there are hundred of gyms in London, just turn up somewhere surely ?

Marlin · Post by **Marlin** » 11 Nov 2007, 03:03

^Yeah there must be somewhere he can train.

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 11 Nov 2007, 16:05

"Can't get into a gym"?????

Hahahaha, are we starting the excuses already?

middleman · Post by **middleman** » 11 Nov 2007, 20:21

Collins2000 wrote:"Can't get into a gym"?????

Hahahaha, are we starting the excuses already?

hey mate your not a pom r u?anyway things r fine in pommie land,and ben will shake the hell out of barker.i here the kids a bit weak on the chin,has been nocked down in a few of his fights,but like agood fighter got back up to win,he will know it when the bazooka hits him.

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 11 Nov 2007, 21:09

middleman wrote:
Collins2000 wrote:"Can't get into a gym"?????

Hahahaha, are we starting the excuses already?
hey mate your not a pom r u?anyway things r fine in pommie land,and ben will shake the hell out of barker.i here the kids a bit weak on the chin,has been nocked down in a few of his fights,but like agood fighter got back up to win,he will know it when the bazooka hits him.

Very witty, my semi-literate friend.

Keep us posted on the build up. The biggest fight of Ben's career and his management can't find him a gym. It doesn't bode well...

middleman · Post by **middleman** » 12 Nov 2007, 03:36

Collins2000 wrote:
middleman wrote:
Collins2000 wrote:"Can't get into a gym"?????

Hahahaha, are we starting the excuses already?
hey mate your not a pom r u?anyway things r fine in pommie land,and ben will shake the hell out of barker.i here the kids a bit weak on the chin,has been nocked down in a few of his fights,but like agood fighter got back up to win,he will know it when the bazooka hits him.

Very witty, my semi-literate friend.

Keep us posted on the build up. The biggest fight of Ben's career and his management can't find him a gym. It doesn't bode well...

i said mate things a fine the message now was there in a gym,my hearing is not the best at the best of times and as it is coming to me threw the crampton family back here, we are awaiting more news,about 1.30 am is about the time they chec in. you r right it is most certainly the biggest fight of his life,2 days 2 go,go benny......

middleman · Post by **middleman** » 13 Nov 2007, 21:58

no news is good news not long now good luck to bazooka....

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 14 Nov 2007, 18:15

Easy win for Barker

120-108
120-108
119-110

Beating up on Thai taxi drivers and Manila folders isn't the best preparation for taking on real fighters...

middleman · Post by **middleman** » 14 Nov 2007, 19:08

Collins2000 wrote:Easy win for Barker

120-108
120-108
119-110

Beating up on Thai taxi drivers and Manila folders isn't the best preparation for taking on real fighters...

team bazooka will b home friday nite,not abad effort 4 a fighter with that sort of preparation,at least he had the heart and balls to hav a go

we can always cri we waz robbed

razor7 · Post by **razor7** » 14 Nov 2007, 19:37

It remains to be seen whether Barker turns out to be a "real fighter" as he certainly hasn't fought anybody of stature. The comments on Cramptons record are valid.One wonders then why a "real fighter" was unable to stop him.The usual condesceding English manner at play again.A shame Geale or Dawson haven't bothered with the Commonwealth title route. A clash with the hyped up Mr Barker would have been interesting.

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 14 Nov 2007, 19:38

middleman wrote:
Collins2000 wrote:Easy win for Barker

120-108
120-108
119-110

Beating up on Thai taxi drivers and Manila folders isn't the best preparation for taking on real fighters...
team bazooka will b home friday nite,not abad effort 4 a fighter with that sort of preparation,at least he had the heart and balls to hav a go we can always cri we waz robbed

He'll certainly have learnt a lot more from going 12 rounds with Barker than from all those meaningless wins aginst unambitious and / or overmatched opponents he's had since that good win in the USA.

If he's serious, he can come again. If he goes back to whacking Fijian roadsweepers for fake titles like most of our lads seem content to do then, it will be another nail in the Aussie boxing coffin.

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 14 Nov 2007, 19:42

razor7 wrote:It remains to be seen whether Barker turns out to be a "real fighter" as he certainly hasn't fought anybody of stature. The comments on Cramptons record are valid.One wonders then why a "real fighter" was unable to stop him.The usual condesceding English manner at play again.A shame Geale or Dawson haven't bothered with the Commonwealth title route. A clash with the hyped up Mr Barker would have been interesting.

You can't stop everyone, mate. 120 - 108 shows a gulf in class that only a pinhead would fail to acknowledge.

Yes, Barker may fall at the next hurdle. That's little consolation for Ben though...

middleman · Post by **middleman** » 14 Nov 2007, 20:59

Collins2000 wrote:
razor7 wrote:It remains to be seen whether Barker turns out to be a "real fighter" as he certainly hasn't fought anybody of stature. The comments on Cramptons record are valid.One wonders then why a "real fighter" was unable to stop him.The usual condesceding English manner at play again.A shame Geale or Dawson haven't bothered with the Commonwealth title route. A clash with the hyped up Mr Barker would have been interesting.
You can't stop everyone, mate. 120 - 108 shows a gulf in class that only a pinhead would fail to acknowledge.

Yes, Barker may fall at the next hurdle. That's little consolation for Ben though...

mate u r a pom arnt u?you never really answered that one 4 me

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 14 Nov 2007, 21:36

middleman wrote:
Collins2000 wrote:
razor7 wrote:It remains to be seen whether Barker turns out to be a "real fighter" as he certainly hasn't fought anybody of stature. The comments on Cramptons record are valid.One wonders then why a "real fighter" was unable to stop him.The usual condesceding English manner at play again.A shame Geale or Dawson haven't bothered with the Commonwealth title route. A clash with the hyped up Mr Barker would have been interesting.
You can't stop everyone, mate. 120 - 108 shows a gulf in class that only a pinhead would fail to acknowledge.

Yes, Barker may fall at the next hurdle. That's little consolation for Ben though...
mate u r a pom arnt u?you never really answered that one 4 me

Born in England, mate. Does that qualify me for your 'pom' tag?

I like to think I look beyond past national bias though.

Have I said anything that wasn't true and / or justified?

Of course, if you enjoy listening to Brad Vocale or that other clown Angelo Hyder describing the local heroes on Foxsports demolishing overmatched part timers as "fantastic displays of boxing" involving "incredible rips to the body" you probably don't like what I have to say...

razor7 · Post by **razor7** » 14 Nov 2007, 21:47

Of course we all accept the records built on thai taxi drivers etc.But hello the vaunted Darren Barkers opponents before the Crampton fight had a total of 16 wins 7 draws and 56 losses between them. Can we replace thai taxi drivers with with pommy pork pies?

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 14 Nov 2007, 22:13

razor7 wrote:Of course we all accept the records built on thai taxi drivers etc.But hello the vaunted Darren Barkers opponents before the Crampton fight had a total of 16 wins 7 draws and 56 losses between them. Can we replace thai taxi drivers with with pommy pork pies?

Not sure where you are getting your figures from, mate. Perhaps you are making them up or need help with your arithmetic...

Paul Samuels alone had 17 wins going into the fight with Barker.

And Ojay Abrahams might have might have 70+ losses on his record, but if you knew anything about boxing (which, of course, you don't) you'd recognise that he's a far better opponent than almost all those lads Crampton 'fought'.

Sure, there are some guys with a lot of losses on Barker's resume but I'd still say they are better opponents than most of the cannon fodder fed to 'prospects' here. The fact that Barker won every round against Crampton suggests I might be onto something.

Marlin · Post by **Marlin** » 14 Nov 2007, 22:15

Collins - yes, that does qualify you as a pom.

razor7 · Post by **razor7** » 14 Nov 2007, 22:22

boxrec last 6 fights. Recent not ancient history.

razor7 · Post by **razor7** » 14 Nov 2007, 22:23

My, my our English friend is touchy

middleman · Post by **middleman** » 14 Nov 2007, 22:42

Collins2000 wrote:
middleman wrote:
Collins2000 wrote:Easy win for Barker

120-108
120-108
119-110

Beating up on Thai taxi drivers and Manila folders isn't the best preparation for taking on real fighters...
team bazooka will b home friday nite,not abad effort 4 a fighter with that sort of preparation,at least he had the heart and balls to hav a go we can always cri we waz robbed
He'll certainly have learnt a lot more from going 12 rounds with Barker than from all those meaningless wins aginst unambitious and / or overmatched opponents he's had since that good win in the USA.

If he's serious, he can come again. If he goes back to whacking Fijian roadsweepers for fake titles like most of our lads seem content to do then, it will be another nail in the Aussie boxing coffin.

you are a pom, quote.. if his serious,he can come again.

Marlin · Post by **Marlin** » 14 Nov 2007, 22:44

Hate to break it to you razor but:

Greg Barton 164 2-3-0
Paul Samuels 164¼ 17-2-2
Ojay Abrahams 173 20-73-4
Hussain Osman 160 13-12-0
Conroy McIntosh 165 6-16-3
Danny Thornton 162¾ 20-10-3