Has Froch ever been down - as an amateur?

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 12 Nov 2007, 08:53

I only ask because for the third time I've watched him he has taken a Big punch, and hasnt even looked like falling. (Reid right hander)

Hes also getting very big around the shoulders, def a world champion in the making.
Although this will slow up his punches soon I guess.

Has he been down as an amateur?

BTW I loved the way Reid tried to intimide him.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 12 Nov 2007, 08:57

No he's never been down as Amateur or Pro

n1ebf · Post by **n1ebf** » 12 Nov 2007, 09:03

I don't think it was as big as it looked as Froch was turning away luckily for him.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » 12 Nov 2007, 09:44

shit, that really dosnt bode well for next years opponents.

I really think the only guys to give him a proper fight is J C and Kessler.

Froch will be a world champ this time next year. imo

WildWaylon · Post by **WildWaylon** » 12 Nov 2007, 10:36

Ted wrote:shit, that really dosnt bode well for next years opponents.

I really think the only guys to give him a proper fight is J C and Kessler.

Froch will be a world champ this time next year. imo

I think you are possibly right but he wont clean up and dominate the division as Calzaghe did - Kessler on the other hand probably will - As good as Froch is, he is not as good as his own opinion of himself - He has yet got to step in the ring with a current, true world class fighter - He has proved he is above domestic level but still has to prove he is Euro and World class yet - Fighters who have been down and got up to win are to be admired - Could Froch do that, or would it dent his supreme confidence and self belief we dont know until it happens - He certainly lost his confidence for a few moments the other night and thats something you dont usually see with him - I dont listen to the hype from boxers or their fans, its what I see for myself that I rely on - Yes Froch may have a belt this time next year but he could easily have his first loss - His style is not a world beater and I see him getting caught - Having a good chin and a big power shot have got him this far but you cant stand in front of Kessler with your left hung low and expect to get away with it.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 12 Nov 2007, 10:47

Ted wrote:shit, that really dosnt bode well for next years opponents.

I really think the only guys to give him a proper fight is J C and Kessler.

Froch will be a world champ this time next year. imo

There are more than JC and Kessler whom would be able to give him a proper fight. A forward step for Froch would be to fight any of Mundine, Bute, Lacy, Andrade, Green, or even Bika. In fact, Bika would be the best fight for him at this point if he's looking for recognition in the US. If Kessler stays at super-middle I suppose his options are winner of Taylor-Pavlik (assuming Calzaghe moves up), a rematch with Mundine or Bute/Froch.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 12 Nov 2007, 10:51

Cannot remember the fight, but early on in his pro career Froch was in big trouble. BBC showed highlights I think - real big trouble.... Before even his English title win.

Perhaps I dreamt it.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 12 Nov 2007, 11:01

stujones wrote:Cannot remember the fight, but early on in his pro career Froch was in big trouble. BBC showed highlights I think - real big trouble.... Before even his English title win.

Perhaps I dreamt it.

It wasn't the Valery Odin fight was it?
I do seem to remember something along those lines happening.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 12 Nov 2007, 11:05

johnswan1 wrote:
Ted wrote:shit, that really dosnt bode well for next years opponents.

I really think the only guys to give him a proper fight is J C and Kessler.

Froch will be a world champ this time next year. imo
There are more than JC and Kessler whom would be able to give him a proper fight. A forward step for Froch would be to fight any of Mundine, Bute, Lacy, Andrade, Green, or even Bika. In fact, Bika would be the best fight for him at this point if he's looking for recognition in the US. If Kessler stays at super-middle I suppose his options are winner of Taylor-Pavlik (assuming Calzaghe moves up), a rematch with Mundine or Bute/Froch.

Froch to fight Bika is a great call, he's got plenty of US air-time and Calzaghe looked shit against him. Bika may be in high demand now though

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 12 Nov 2007, 11:06

stujones wrote:Cannot remember the fight, but early on in his pro career Froch was in big trouble. BBC showed highlights I think - real big trouble.... Before even his English title win.

Perhaps I dreamt it.

Its not something I recall

TheGoods · Post by **TheGoods** » 12 Nov 2007, 12:26

Admits Charles Adamu was his hardest ever fight. I had a fortune on him to win that one at 2/5 and was bricking it early on. Don't think he took a count tho.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 12 Nov 2007, 12:32

TheGoods wrote:Admits Charles Adamu was his hardest ever fight. I had a fortune on him to win that one at 2/5 and was bricking it early on. Don't think he took a count tho.

No, it wasn't the Adamu fight I can remember when Froch was badly stung - time to look at some of my old vids. Might have been Odin - think the opponent was black.

fightfan21 · Post by **fightfan21** » 12 Nov 2007, 13:36

You must be referring to the fight against Vage Kocharyan, which was Carl's comeback after a 6 month layoff and was before his English title fight. I remember watching it actually, and in the last round Carl got hit with a MASSIVE right hand that snapped his head sideways. It would have put many pros down but Froch regrouped to finish the fight a points winner, which was quite impressive given that he never saw the punch coming. For me, it was the first real indicator that Carl's got a good chin.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 12 Nov 2007, 14:22

Ted wrote:I only ask because for the third time I've watched him he has taken a Big punch, and hasnt even looked like falling. (Reid right hander)

Hes also getting very big around the shoulders, def a world champion in the making.
Although this will slow up his punches soon I guess.

Has he been down as an amateur?

BTW I loved the way Reid tried to intimide him.

That right hander wasn't that impressive, Reid's timing isn't there. He'll be hit far harder and cleaner when he steps it up.

E · Post by E » 12 Nov 2007, 17:29

Carl froch has the biggest nose in boxing. I'm surprised it has stayed so intact

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 12 Nov 2007, 17:49

froch, in my opinion, was in most trouble early on against dale westerman !!

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 12 Nov 2007, 23:23

Would like to see the Mundie fight if Mundie is still boxing not sure. There was talk about him fighting on Decembre 7th on the UK vs Mexico bill.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 13 Nov 2007, 04:08

josh fg wrote:Would like to see the Mundie fight if Mundie is still boxing not sure. There was talk about him fighting on Decembre 7th on the UK vs Mexico bill.

I really can't see Mundine being allowed to box over here, going by reports his sight in one eye is around 50%

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 13 Nov 2007, 06:07

Mundine is fighting some stiff over in Australia next month.

Chambers2 · Post by **Chambers2** » 13 Nov 2007, 06:48

E wrote:Carl froch has the biggest nose in boxing. I'm surprised it has stayed so intact

My mate says "Hes got a nose that needs breaking"

(plenty have tried)

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 13 Nov 2007, 07:18

Mundine could fight Bika for a big money Australian fight.

jangeorg · Post by **jangeorg** » 13 Nov 2007, 08:01

E wrote:Carl froch has the biggest nose in boxing. I'm surprised it has stayed so intact

And the biggest mouth,Froch is nothing but garbage

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 13 Nov 2007, 08:02

jangeorg wrote:
E wrote:Carl froch has the biggest nose in boxing. I'm surprised it has stayed so intact

And the biggest mouth,Froch is nothing but garbage

He has never shown a lack of willingness to take dangerouse fights. Better than those fighters who talk shit but don't fight people.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 13 Nov 2007, 08:41

rhino222 wrote:froch, in my opinion, was in most trouble early on against dale westerman !!

You're not far off there. I was at that fight and although I never thought Froch was in any sort of trouble, he was caught flush an alarming amount of times in the early rounds.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 13 Nov 2007, 08:54

johnswan1 wrote:
rhino222 wrote:froch, in my opinion, was in most trouble early on against dale westerman !!
You're not far off there. I was at that fight and although I never thought Froch was in any sort of trouble, he was caught flush an alarming amount of times in the early rounds.

He is probably getting caught fresh less often which is a good thing esspecialy as his quality of opponents has only increased. Look at the dodson fight for example.

Has Froch ever been down - as an amateur?

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