herbie hide v enzo maccarinelli

Matt W · Post by **Matt W** » 15 Nov 2007, 11:53

Terry D wrote: Cheers, Mr 'A Certain Manc Trainer thinks I'm the dogs bollocks' Williams

He clearly knows his onions then

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 15 Nov 2007, 14:18

Captain Hook wrote:If anyone here thinks Hide is going to make a big dent on the world scene at any weight, they're bonkers.....

And he doesn't deserve too anyway, he's a git. Enzo in 1.

Look, most Hide opponents are beaten before the first bell. Look at the last 2 fights. That's proof that no one dares fvck with the scary exile, at least not at cruiser.

The Blade · Post by **The Blade** » 15 Nov 2007, 14:26

Autobarn wrote:
Captain Hook wrote:If anyone here thinks Hide is going to make a big dent on the world scene at any weight, they're bonkers.....

And he doesn't deserve too anyway, he's a git. Enzo in 1.
Look, most Hide opponents are beaten before the first bell. Look at the last 2 fights. That's proof that no one dares fvck with the scary exile, at least not at cruiser.

You, my friend, have lost the plot if you believe that. The scary one could take a standing count shaving. He is SHOT TO PIECES, and anybody with a chin who fights back will expose him. He would hyperventillate his way to a paralysis of fear and be ko'd inside a minute by Enzo. Were you not watching when he lost to that Kenyan bum. Hide is a nasty bully, and I hope he fights Maccarinelli. I also hope some of the people he has terrorised outside the ring get the chance to watch.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 15 Nov 2007, 14:49

I don't know about that. It might be a matter of who hyperventilates first. A battle of nerves before the 1st bell. Herbie freaks ppl out.

Enzo's a bully too. Didn't like it when Hobson fought back, and nearly lost. Not that I'm complaining as it was a superb fight. (Hide interestingly beat Pavolavich better than Hobson). Enzo v Bobby Gunn is disgraceful bullying. Azzaoui too - he kept turning away from the punches.

Hide's my man. I don't want to see him knocked out by the Kenyan. Might be too tramatic for me.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 15 Nov 2007, 15:26

The Blade wrote: The scary one could take a standing count shaving.

Keep 'em coming!!

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 15 Nov 2007, 15:42

i once saw enzo 'take a knee for an 8 count' as he was walking past the music speakers on his way to the ring..

i refuse to slag off herbie, us glebe house school hunstanton boys stick together !!!

SticknMove · Post by **SticknMove** » 15 Nov 2007, 17:01

nickd wrote:
The Blade wrote: The scary one could take a standing count shaving.

Keep 'em coming!!

His chin is so suspect, the police have called it in for questioning over Jill Dando's murder.

Khaosai-Galaxy · Post by **Khaosai-Galaxy** » 15 Nov 2007, 17:41

In all seriousness, Enzo, who walks around at about 180 odd pounds, wouldnt in a million years get thrown in with Hide.

19 stone heavyweights are scared to fornicating death of Hide, what chance has a sloppy-faced welshman got?

None, never happen, Enzo's people aren't that fuckin stupid

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 15 Nov 2007, 17:48

id like to see hide knock enzo into next week, would be vastly entertaining. Unbelievable some of you guys giving him no chance.

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 15 Nov 2007, 18:43

if a fat bruce scott can drop enzo..then what the hell will hide do if he connects, i think enzo would be shit scared...

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 15 Nov 2007, 18:46

All this Hide talk is redundant he can't come back in the country anyway can he?

Tykemania · Post by **Tykemania** » 15 Nov 2007, 22:31

rhino222 wrote:its only just struck me, id actually be rooting for herbie in this one too ..

what about you fellas, is enzo not as popular as he should be, if he suffering a wrath of public discontent due to his promoters unpopularity?

No, he's struggling against a sea of apathy because his promoter has yet to deliver him the calibre of opponent that he should be fighting. I appreciate that the Warren team would probably say that it is difficult to get the best fighters to come to Britain and that Enzo's power is off putting, but it must be worrying to a guy who is obvious at or very close to world class that the best name on his list, Wayne Braithwaite, is a noble plodder who had already lost several big fights, whilst the second best is Mark Hobson. Compare with David Haye who, not withstanding his crack at JMM, has beaten Tomasz Bonin, Giacobbe Fragomeni, Glen Kelly, Alexander Gurov and Lasse Johanssen, any of whom would run Hobbo out of town.

Maccarinelli needs to face a big name, and soon.

charlieb · Post by **charlieb** » 16 Nov 2007, 10:40

boxingchat wrote:Herbie Hide has turned the fight down already and he can't come to the UK due to his ever growing list of debts and arrest warrants for attacking birds and nicking underwear. Herbie Hide at his peak would have got destoyed by EM and he is very, very much passed his peak now. Basically, in less time than it would take Herbie to even say 'Maccarinnelli' he would be KO'd!

Enzo.......ma, ma, ma...mer, mer mer mer, mer mer mmmm mer...OUCH!

HH at his peak would have flat out killed EM if they ever fought.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 16 Nov 2007, 12:22

rhino222 wrote:if a fat bruce scott can drop enzo..then what the hell will hide do if he connects, i think enzo would be shit scared...

I think the Herbster will lay Enzo spark out.

Enzo has got a very narrow peanut head, have you seen it. He has got the head of a flyweight, the body of a cruiser and the tits of a woman.

Hide would bash him. Too quick even now.

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 16 Nov 2007, 13:56

KO Artist wrote:
rhino222 wrote:if a fat bruce scott can drop enzo..then what the hell will hide do if he connects, i think enzo would be shit scared...
I think the Herbster will lay Enzo spark out.

Enzo has got a very narrow peanut head, have you seen it. He has got the head of a flyweight, the body of a cruiser and the tits of a woman.

Hide would bash him. Too quick even now.

funny as hell, but when i think about it i can see where you are coming from, especially with herbie hide being so good looking...

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 16 Nov 2007, 16:28

boxingchat wrote:Herbie Hide has turned the fight down already and he can't come to the UK due to his ever growing list of debts and arrest warrants for attacking birds and nicking underwear. Herbie Hide at his peak would have got destoyed by EM and he is very, very much passed his peak now. Basically, in less time than it would take Herbie to even say 'Maccarinnelli' he would be KO'd!

Enzo.......ma, ma, ma...mer, mer mer mer, mer mer mmmm mer...OUCH!

Didnt SWABY knock out Maccarroni?

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 16 Nov 2007, 16:39

Terry D wrote:There are pros and cons regarding their respective opponents but I cannot see anything but an Enzo KO win.

Herbie can crack and has cracked at a higher level but a lot of emphasis is placed on the fact that he shit-it against Bowe, went gung-ho, Bowe blinked, and Hide was slaughtered.

On the one hand Hide has been KO'd by non-punchers and Enzo rocked by Hobson.

It is all relative. I was reading about quantum physics/mechanics the other day and the old chestnut about a butterfly flapping its wings on one continent, thereby causing a monsoon on another continent, was brought up.

The counter argument was that the butterfly would not cause a monsoon per se but would stand a fooking great chance of KOing Hide if it flapped hard enough.

Hide would come out like a suicidal Japanese soldier and be pinged in a few rounds. In fact it is one fight I may even put down as TKO 1 for Enzo.

I think the Bowe fight is not quite relevant here.

After all, a prime Bowe would have knocked Enzo out inside 1 round.

What do you think.

I know its not a prime Hide, but he is fast and can crack, harder than anyone Enzo has faced.

He would have a good chance.

In fact, I will say, here and now, subject to contract, that I will make a £10,000 contribution to Hide's purse if Warren makes the fight, with Macca, for the WBO 200lb title.

Anyone else in with me? I reckon Boxrec posters could come up with a decent purse for Hide, this would save SN a few bob.

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 16 Nov 2007, 16:51

KO Artist wrote:
Terry D wrote:There are pros and cons regarding their respective opponents but I cannot see anything but an Enzo KO win.

Herbie can crack and has cracked at a higher level but a lot of emphasis is placed on the fact that he shit-it against Bowe, went gung-ho, Bowe blinked, and Hide was slaughtered.

On the one hand Hide has been KO'd by non-punchers and Enzo rocked by Hobson.

It is all relative. I was reading about quantum physics/mechanics the other day and the old chestnut about a butterfly flapping its wings on one continent, thereby causing a monsoon on another continent, was brought up.

The counter argument was that the butterfly would not cause a monsoon per se but would stand a fooking great chance of KOing Hide if it flapped hard enough.

Hide would come out like a suicidal Japanese soldier and be pinged in a few rounds. In fact it is one fight I may even put down as TKO 1 for Enzo.
I think the Bowe fight is not quite relevant here.

After all, a prime Bowe would have knocked Enzo out inside 1 round.

What do you think.

I know its not a prime Hide, but he is fast and can crack, harder than anyone Enzo has faced.

He would have a good chance.

In fact, I will say, here and now, subject to contract, that I will make a £10,000 contribution to Hide's purse if Warren makes the fight, with Macca, for the WBO 200lb title.

Anyone else in with me? I reckon Boxrec posters could come up with a decent purse for Hide, this would save SN a few bob.

according to boxingchat, its very easy money, (seeing as he is always telling us to get involved) so obviously we dont need to....

IMO he has a chance, he only lost to top notch oppo in his best years, but EM took BIG hits off Braithwaite and was in it to win it all the way along. Hide is a few years over the hill now IMO.

MatthewS, Enzo, KO 7

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 17 Nov 2007, 17:59

Anyone see allegedly's collum in the Sun today in which he said if haye realy new this was his last fight at cruzer then why didn't he fight Enzo insted of dodging him to fight Mormek as he knew thats the fight british fans may want to see. I've never read his column befor I realy think there aught to be a dissclamer at the end like "caution may contain utter bollox" literaly the worst argument I have ever heard, like saying "if lennox lewis had known that Vitali Klitschko would be his last fight why didn't he have the guts to fight Juliouse Frances cos thats the fight the british fans wanted to see!"

Khaosai-Galaxy · Post by **Khaosai-Galaxy** » 17 Nov 2007, 19:11

josh fg wrote:Anyone see allegedly allegedly's collum in the Sun today in which he said if haye realy new this was his last fight at cruzer then why didn't he fight Enzo insted of dodging him to fight Mormek as he knew thats the fight british fans may want to see. I've never read his column befor I realy think there aught to be a dissclamer at the end like "caution may contain utter bollox" literaly the worst argument I have ever heard, like saying "if lennox lewis had known that Vitali Klitschko would be his last fight why didn't he have the guts to fight Juliouse Frances cos thats the fight the british fans wanted to see!"

One again i need to point out to you, my lad, that allegedly is a Boxing Promoter not a journalist or a historian. His job is to promote his own boxers/boxing shows. The clue is in the title (boxing promoter, in case you forgotten)
Now please remember this next time you read his column.

I bet you're the sort of bloke who gets all angry at those EU stories in the Daily Mail, no?

Also, learn to spell.

charlieb · Post by **charlieb** » 17 Nov 2007, 19:14

Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:
josh fg wrote:Anyone see allegedly allegedly allegedly's collum in the Sun today in which he said if haye realy new this was his last fight at cruzer then why didn't he fight Enzo insted of dodging him to fight Mormek as he knew thats the fight british fans may want to see. I've never read his column befor I realy think there aught to be a dissclamer at the end like "caution may contain utter bollox" literaly the worst argument I have ever heard, like saying "if lennox lewis had known that Vitali Klitschko would be his last fight why didn't he have the guts to fight Juliouse Frances cos thats the fight the british fans wanted to see!"
One again i need to point out to you, my lad, that allegedly allegedly is a Boxing Promoter not a journalist or a historian. His job is to promote his own boxers/boxing shows. The clue is in the title (boxing promoter, in case you forgotten)
Now please remember this next time you read his column.

I bet you're the sort of bloke who gets all angry at those EU stories in the Daily Mail, no?

Also, learn to spell.

Psst! Quick! Change 'One' to 'Once' before anyone notices.

Khaosai-Galaxy · Post by **Khaosai-Galaxy** » 17 Nov 2007, 19:17

charlieb wrote:
Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:
josh fg wrote:Anyone see allegedly allegedly allegedly allegedly's collum in the Sun today in which he said if haye realy new this was his last fight at cruzer then why didn't he fight Enzo insted of dodging him to fight Mormek as he knew thats the fight british fans may want to see. I've never read his column befor I realy think there aught to be a dissclamer at the end like "caution may contain utter bollox" literaly the worst argument I have ever heard, like saying "if lennox lewis had known that Vitali Klitschko would be his last fight why didn't he have the guts to fight Juliouse Frances cos thats the fight the british fans wanted to see!"
One again i need to point out to you, my lad, that allegedly allegedly allegedly is a Boxing Promoter not a journalist or a historian. His job is to promote his own boxers/boxing shows. The clue is in the title (boxing promoter, in case you forgotten)
Now please remember this next time you read his column.

I bet you're the sort of bloke who gets all angry at those EU stories in the Daily Mail, no?

Also, learn to spell.
Psst! Quick! Change 'One' to 'Once' before anyone notices.

awwww fu ck!

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 17 Nov 2007, 19:40

Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:
josh fg wrote:Anyone see allegedly allegedly allegedly's collum in the Sun today in which he said if haye realy new this was his last fight at cruzer then why didn't he fight Enzo insted of dodging him to fight Mormek as he knew thats the fight british fans may want to see. I've never read his column befor I realy think there aught to be a dissclamer at the end like "caution may contain utter bollox" literaly the worst argument I have ever heard, like saying "if lennox lewis had known that Vitali Klitschko would be his last fight why didn't he have the guts to fight Juliouse Frances cos thats the fight the british fans wanted to see!"
One again i need to point out to you, my lad, that allegedly allegedly is a Boxing Promoter not a journalist or a historian. His job is to promote his own boxers/boxing shows. The clue is in the title (boxing promoter, in case you forgotten)
Now please remember this next time you read his column.

I bet you're the sort of bloke who gets all angry at those EU stories in the Daily Mail, no?

Also, learn to spell.

Shouldnt he then pay for his column in the sun as it is effectively an advertisment.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 17 Nov 2007, 19:49

Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:
josh fg wrote:Anyone see allegedly allegedly allegedly's collum in the Sun today in which he said if haye realy new this was his last fight at cruzer then why didn't he fight Enzo insted of dodging him to fight Mormek as he knew thats the fight british fans may want to see. I've never read his column befor I realy think there aught to be a dissclamer at the end like "caution may contain utter bollox" literaly the worst argument I have ever heard, like saying "if lennox lewis had known that Vitali Klitschko would be his last fight why didn't he have the guts to fight Juliouse Frances cos thats the fight the british fans wanted to see!"
One again i need to point out to you, my lad, that allegedly allegedly is a Boxing Promoter not a journalist or a historian. His job is to promote his own boxers/boxing shows. The clue is in the title (boxing promoter, in case you forgotten)
Now please remember this next time you read his column.

I bet you're the sort of bloke who gets all angry at those EU stories in the Daily Mail, no?

Also, learn to spell.

I am awear of Warren's job however that is besid the point in the sun he is emploid as a collumist. In that collum he should and does express his oppinions/business interests, however I also have the right to criticise the arguments and oppinions he has.

If Harriet Harman wrote a collumn in the indipendent and said something I dissagreed with and I said so on a political forum I would not expect people to question my right to dissagree with her based on the fact she is not a journalist or historian she is the chair of the Labour Party! I understand why Warren rights the crap but thats not to say its not crap. Or would it be churlish to not unquestioningly consume what warren says, and indeed is it not of some relivence to the discussion that he has made such a statement.

Furthermore as most sun readers are probably not boxing officienardos there is a problem that they will take the only sorce for boxing information they consume (warrens collumn) as gosple meaning they would think that Haye is a coward which is demonstrably not the case. In that instance were the sun a better quality publication they may feel some editorial responcibility to present a ballanced argument. Much the same way I view the daily hate mail.

as for my speling Im dyslexic and can't be arsed to check it in this forum!

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 18 Nov 2007, 06:17

rhino222 wrote:surely this is the fight we should be touting for now, haye v macca is not gonna happen, so lets get herbie in line.

can big enzo take hides power....or will enzo land first?

Well, Hide would be a damn site better than some of the dross that F rank
Warren has put in with Maccarinelli recently.

I would like to see this one, why not?

Hide would put up a better showing than the legendary Bobby Gunn!

herbie hide v enzo maccarinelli

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