Great Britain v USA

mike222 · Post by **mike222** » 07 Nov 2007, 05:49

The two countries are scheduled to meet in London on November 30 in an amateur international.Does anyone know the likely lineups,for example will there be any of the world championship teams fighting.I would presume a few will be having a rest.

JMac · Post by **JMac** » 07 Nov 2007, 09:37

mike222 wrote:The two countries are scheduled to meet in London on November 30 in an amateur international.Does anyone know the likely lineups,for example will there be any of the world championship teams fighting.I would presume a few will be having a rest.

I don't think you will see any of the #1 US boxers. The whole team is going to Beijing for the pre-Olympic test event. Most countries only send a few boxers to the test event but the US team is staying for two duals with China. Actually the 1st dual is not a dual but a tri match with Kazakhastan and China. Then the US team flys down to southern China for a secon dual. They won't be back until 28 November.

xbox · Post by **xbox** » 08 Nov 2007, 02:17

The US I believe is sending the #2 team.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 11 Nov 2007, 16:24

#2 team, except for the 3 guys kicked out of the camp.

jtyson · Post by **jtyson** » 12 Nov 2007, 17:15

so our number ones will be facing off against china twice?? When are the dates of these??

I wanna see how well Yanez does againt Zou

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 13 Nov 2007, 02:00

China will present a tough team for a dual. It will be good experience for both countries' teams.

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 13 Nov 2007, 08:03

From what I have seen of Yanez he'll have hardly any chance against superfast Zhiming.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 13 Nov 2007, 12:49

locoxelbox wrote:From what I have seen of Yanez he'll have hardly any chance against superfast Zhiming.

Just remember that he is sparring with fast Rau'shee Warren frequently which should allow him to adapt to boxing someone else with fast hands. The top notch sparring in Colorado may be the BEST part of the residency program.

paunchy · Post by **paunchy** » 16 Nov 2007, 16:14

dennis who are the boxers that were sent home? i hadn't heard that,but i'd like to know.

paunchy · Post by **paunchy** » 16 Nov 2007, 16:17

scratch the last question. i've heard. i believe there are a few greivances and possibly a lawsuit?

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 16 Nov 2007, 20:10

Paunchy, rather than going by hearsay and rumor, you might try calling USA Boxing and asking. Of course, it's up to them whether or not they tell you anything.

paunchy · Post by **paunchy** » 16 Nov 2007, 23:10

i have done that already and it is a subject that is not open for the public yet. your right i shouldn't depend on the rumor mill as i have been in the game way to long. when you come to the ninalss or wherever iee you i'sfor aneta hug ,teno'll wwo aaddou'llaug.

paunchy · Post by **paunchy** » 16 Nov 2007, 23:14

well i guess i'll have to read my typing now nd then. when you find out who this is you'll just laugh.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 17 Nov 2007, 13:32

The three boxers that were kicked out of the camp in Colorado Springs are Danny Garcia, Charles Hatley and Quantis Graves. Garcia has decided to turn pro, but Hatley is here at the World Golden Gloves and I believe Graves is going to the USA v. England dual at the end of the month.

NYboxing · Post by **NYboxing** » 28 Nov 2007, 00:10

From the ABAE website - lineup (subject to change) for USA-England dual meet:

lightflyweight: Malcolm Franklin vs. Darran Langley

flyweight: Qa'id Muhammad vs. Khalid Yafai

bantamweight: David Clark vs. Michael Maguire

featherweight: Rico Ramos vs. Thomas Stalker

lightweight: Miguel Gonzalez vs. Frankie Gavin

light welterweight: Dan O'Connor vs. Craig Dixon

welterweight: Greg Carter vs. Billy Joe Saunders

middleweight: Shawn Porter vs. James DeGale

light heavyweight: Siju Shabazz vs. Obed Mbwakongo

heavyweight: Quantas Graves vs. Danny Price

mike222 · Post by **mike222** » 29 Nov 2007, 05:34

Apologies,of course it is England v Usa.The english side is a real mix four number ones and perhaps our four most talented Juniors.Mcguire is the european junior champ and is a real talent and Saunders who is even younger has tremendous potential.I hope it is a good turnout and whilst not at full strength I would expect England to win this match.See you at the york hall if only to give a standing ovation to the brilliant Gavin.

squarering · Post by **squarering** » 29 Nov 2007, 13:48

Yes I remember last year when the USA team had to find boxers and coaches at the last minute to travel to England. Even with the hectic dash to make arrangements on both sides of the pond we put together a team made up of mostly kids that just came out of the JOs. After the first two bout ended in early stoppages, by the US, it seemed very difficult to get a decision after that. With out question, Mike Hunter the young USA super continued to land clean hard body shots on a very tired and basically inactive Tyson. In fact Tyson was not able to make the second bout. so instead of 3-3- we were 4-2. I only hope that no matter who wins, the scoring stays fair and consistent under any condition. Close is close and they are hard to argue but there was a pleasant shock of surprise that night when the winner was announced in Piccadilly Circus.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 29 Nov 2007, 14:52

Hal - they should not be scrambling around at the last minute. They should have the team selected well in advance and alternates on stand-by just in case a boxer gets injured, sick or for some other reason can't make the trip.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 29 Nov 2007, 17:46

Are they boxing only on 11/30/07 or is there a second day of boxing? Any additional info would be great. Usually with the duals they box twice with the two events being two or three days apart.

squarering · Post by **squarering** » 29 Nov 2007, 17:55

Dennis, I was a little shocking to me how close things were cut and there were some reasons. We had a guy leave that normally did travel arangments and he a new person come in right in the middle of everything. The tounament was held over the Thanksgiving vacation. So I should not have been so surprised that England doesn't look at Thanksgiving the same way Americans do. Remember it was thier pilgrams that left and then created all that rucas about tea.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 30 Nov 2007, 00:13

Good one Hal.

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 30 Nov 2007, 17:07

The boxing is going on right now, but I think the BBC channels televising it are only available to the UK audience. If it is available here, I can't seem to find it. If someone in the US has it, please let us know. Otherwise, the US members of this forum would appreciate it if someone from the UK could post results, comments, etc.

NYboxing · Post by **NYboxing** » 30 Nov 2007, 18:49

England 9; USA 2

flyweights: Khalid Yafai (ENG) dec. Qa'id Muhammad (USA)

light flyweights: Paul Butler (ENG) dec. Malcolm Franklin USA), 19-7

bantamweights: Michael Maguire (ENG) defeats David Clark (USA), (outclassed -second round)

featherweights: Rico Ramos (USA) dec.Thomas Stalker (ENG), 7-5

lightweights: Miguel Gonzalez (USA) dec. *Carl Place (ENG), 12-5

light welterweights: Craig Dixon (ENG) dec. Dan O'Connor (USA); 13-11

welterweights: Billy Joe Saunders (ENG) defeats Greg Carter (USA); outclassed

middleweights: James DeGale (ENG) dec. Shawn Porter (USA); 23-4

light heavyweights: Obed Mbwakongo (ENG) dec. Siju Shabazz (USA), 20-2

heavyweights: Danny Price (ENG)dec Quantas Graves (USA, 21-1

super-heavyweights: Damian Campbell (ENG) dec. Michael Wilson (USA)

*Gavin missed the events because of the flu and a broken tooth.

http://www.sportinglife.com/boxing/news ... ateur.html

Dennis · Post by **Dennis** » 30 Nov 2007, 20:57

I'm disappointed with the scores and very surprised. I can't imagine our guys only scoring 1-3 points in 4 rounds.

kidscoach · Post by **kidscoach** » 30 Nov 2007, 22:22

Well to say the least those scores were a bit low for the americans. As a matter of fact if you add up the total for the 165,178,201 they were awarded a total of 7 points. That is 7 points in 12 rounds from 2 national champions and 1 olympic runner up .....UTTERLY RIDICULOUS!!!!!

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