Where are all the fighters???

ABC · Post by **ABC** » 19 Nov 2007, 07:56

Why isn't there more pro fighters? I hear a lot of amature guys have a handfull of fights and then just disapear. Why don't these guys just fight pro and get a couple of $ for their efforts, beats getting a trophy. Who's roll is it to attract more fighters?

p4p1 · Post by **p4p1** » 19 Nov 2007, 08:08

because they walk into a amatuer boxing gym and are told the pros is bad and the guys who train them are amatuer trainers

Sapphire · Post by **Sapphire** » 19 Nov 2007, 16:24

I'd love to turn pro but I don't think I'm ready for it yet. maybe another 30 Ams and another 200 in the tent and I might think about it.

Bushboy · Post by **Bushboy** » 19 Nov 2007, 18:34

yeh good decision sapphire i think the same thing... im going to wait untill i get to about 100 amateur fights and am about 22 befor i hop in as a pro.. see to many young kids getting beat up

Brute · Post by **Brute** » 20 Nov 2007, 01:19

Often you will get a youngster who looks the goods until he is thrown in against a pro and gets stage fright. Others try it and decide it is too hard a way to make a living. Very few boxers have more than twenty pro fights.

ABC · Post by **ABC** » 20 Nov 2007, 07:52

Can't see why you need loads of amature fights to turn pro. IMO the two are nearly different sports, e.g touch football & takle. If a fighter's style suits the pros more, his trainer should look to turn him pro. Not every pro has to be the next big thing. If more trainers did this we would have a bigger pool of fighters to match from & more evenly matched fights. At least then we wouldn't be watching our half decent Aussie fighters beat up on some poor Philipino who is obviously overmatched. It could only be good for the sport.

Brute · Post by **Brute** » 21 Nov 2007, 05:33

Filipino.

Faith · Post by **Faith** » 21 Nov 2007, 21:36

ABC wrote:Why isn't there more pro fighters? I hear a lot of amature guys have a handfull of fights and then just disapear. Why don't these guys just fight pro and get a couple of $ for their efforts, beats getting a trophy. Who's roll is it to attract more fighters?

You only have to look at this forum to see the lack of support for Amateur Boxing !!!
Which I find ironic, considering thats where the Pro's come from

Maybe if there was more support for the Amateurs
More people getting behind them, they'd hang around cut their teeth in the Amateur's then move on to become Pro's ???

Brute · Post by **Brute** » 21 Nov 2007, 22:49

Amateurs usually start out with PCYC and other youth clubs. You can get frigged around in the amateurs too. A friend of mine won selection to represent Australia at Super Heavyweight in the 1990 Commonwealth Games. Arthur Bloody Tunstall vetoed him going because he had passed his thirtieth birthday.

As my friend was the Australian amateur Super Heavyweight champ, Australia was not represented at Super Heavyweight that year.

Bushboy · Post by **Bushboy** » 22 Nov 2007, 02:46

I think that from what i have been told from previous trainers of mine, older amateur fighter etc Arthur Tunstall is Fuckin things up for the singlets for 2 main reasons:
1. He runs the association like its his ant farm
2. He wont be the bigger man and try to make peace with the league (which carries some very talented boxers)

Does anyone here know when the split happened and what caused it?
Ive never understood why the league was formed and did it involve Arthur "i am spartacus" Tunstall

fox · Post by **fox** » 22 Nov 2007, 03:25

Good chance Arthur caused the split but the league has been around a long time and Global has been going for about 5 years now. Cant see it being any different in 20 years time which is a huge shame cause your best boy usually misses out.

Bushboy · Post by **Bushboy** » 22 Nov 2007, 04:14

yeh i know its rubbish isnt it.. for example alex leapai was a league aussie champion heavyweight, imagine if he was given some encouragement to represent australia

Brute · Post by **Brute** » 22 Nov 2007, 04:46

The Olympics are supposed to be amateur sports run by professional administrators. With Australian boxing it is all arse about. The administrators are the amateurs.

fox · Post by **fox** » 22 Nov 2007, 04:50

Yeah he was Global champ also and I think he represented Samoa at the Oceana Games cause he couldnt get a run in Aussie side.

GM #1 · Post by **GM #1** » 22 Nov 2007, 07:19

that fat prk tunstall is a good for nothing and has done very little for boxing- ge example above. it is guys like him that hold the sport back.

ABC · Post by **ABC** » 23 Nov 2007, 02:34

GM #1 wrote:that fat prk tunstall is a good for nothing and has done very little for boxing- ge example above. it is guys like him that hold the sport back.

This is why I can't understand why there aint more pros. You hear of a lot of guys not getting a fair go and then they just give it away. Why don't these guys turn pro and pick up couple of bucks beats fighting for a trophy.
It would be hard at the moment due to the numbers but if more guys turn to the pros there would be more opportunity to get matched evenly. Like I've said earlier not every fighter can be a champion but thats no reason not to give it a go.

Brute · Post by **Brute** » 23 Nov 2007, 19:48

Family pressure has a lot to do with boys not carrying on with boxing careers. As much as we might say otherwise, most of us do not want to upset those closest to us. A young man coming home with cuts and bruises on his faces has a tendency to freak parents, wives etc. out.

Friends, work and associates are for a limited time. Family is for life.

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