Eubank obsessed with Mayweather..

Greg Nicholas · Post by **Greg Nicholas** » 27 Nov 2007, 22:14

On spam boxing blog he said.. 'They probably said Joe Louis wouldn't lose and he did. They probably said Mike Tyson wouldn't lose and he did. They probably said Sugar Ray Leonard wouldn't lose and he did. They probably said Naseem wouldn't lose and he did. Why should it be any different with this guy? If he doesn't lose his next fight, he'll lose one of the one's after that. That's life.'

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 27 Nov 2007, 22:17

Greg Nicholas wrote:On spam boxing blog he said.. 'They probably said Joe Louis wouldn't lose and he did. They probably said Mike Tyson wouldn't lose and he did. They probably said Sugar Ray Leonard wouldn't lose and he did. They probably said Naseem wouldn't lose and he did. Why should it be any different with this guy? If he doesn't lose his next fight, he'll lose one of the one's after that. That's life.'

Hmm not sure I follow the argument, other guys have lost so so will Maywether! I believe that is Inductive logic and erm not used very accuroutly because I am sure people said Rocky Marciano would loose

Greg Nicholas · Post by **Greg Nicholas** » 27 Nov 2007, 22:19

He also said.. 'I knew about Barry McGuigan and Young Ali, I knew I was surrendering (my life). In accordance with that and solitude and in accordance with how dogged the business was, I wanted to be remembered in 150 years time and that could only be through setting standards.

'I didn't accept standards, I set my own. If you stick to the paths those before you have set, you won't be remembered in 150 years time, because it works like this: there's always someone around the corner who will be able to go one better than you.

'Naseem went over the ropes, but in somersault, not vault. Calzaghe went past my 20 world championship wins by getting 21. And if this wasn't the case, the world would stop revolving.'

Greg Nicholas · Post by **Greg Nicholas** » 27 Nov 2007, 22:24

josh fg wrote:
Greg Nicholas wrote:On spam boxing blog he said.. 'They probably said Joe Louis wouldn't lose and he did. They probably said Mike Tyson wouldn't lose and he did. They probably said Sugar Ray Leonard wouldn't lose and he did. They probably said Naseem wouldn't lose and he did. Why should it be any different with this guy? If he doesn't lose his next fight, he'll lose one of the one's after that. That's life.'
Hmm not sure I follow the argument, other guys have lost so so will Maywether! I believe that is Inductive logic and erm not used very accuroutly because I am sure people said Rocky Marciano would loose

He puts it down to his days as 'London's best shoplifter from the age of 14 to 16' when the 'long arm of the law' caught up with him (why he went to US) and his gambling days in New York when at one point in his years there he had 6 grand but ended up a grand in debt (why he came back to UK).. something about 'law of averages'..

He also believes in Karma and says the reason MAB smashed Naz's head into the turnbuckle is because of him, when Naz 'bullied' him at the airport..

observer1 · Post by **observer1** » 27 Nov 2007, 22:47

nobody is unbeatable

mrkh · Post by **mrkh** » 28 Nov 2007, 03:43

how is he obsessed with him ?

and i disagree, it doesn't work like that. if youre good enough to beat all the others out there, you'll beat all the others out there ! no maths orwhatever can change ability.

as for eubanks i think he was unlucky to be around when the other title holders were mccallum, nunn, toney, rjj and if he went to usa he would of had to face fighters like mcclennan and slick southpaw reggie johnson. did marvin hagler have those guys around ? did bernard hopkins ? did monzon ? did robinson ? did taylor ? did calzaghe ?

i honestly think eubanks was unlucky, he had all the ingrediants and intangibles of an absolute legend but just couldn't venture beyond britain and the wbo because the comp was too stiff out there at that time and he needed to keep bagging some cash (he was spending it like a looney). remember he was 'only' getting around £200k per fight i think (though the other champions like paul hodkinson were getting around £50k per fight) until he signed for sky.

i would give eubanks a 50/50 shot at toney and mccallum, uses the ring too well for mcclennan, and the sneak right hands may shake up rjj. i'd tip nunn, toney and rjj over hagler and hopkins , no question imo.

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 28 Nov 2007, 05:29

Fairly straightforward statement/opinion, bizarre conclusion to say Eubank is obsessed with Mayweather.

n1ebf · Post by **n1ebf** » 28 Nov 2007, 06:05

Agreed.

Eubank's Autobiog is a great read by the way folks.

Crew2 · Post by **Crew2** » 28 Nov 2007, 07:05

"I THINK IM THE BUSINESS. I GOT TWO J-REGISTRATION RANGE ROVERS OUT THERE -PAID FOR. A HOUSE WITH NO MORTGAGE, YOU UNDERSTAND? PROPERTY THAT IN A GOOD TIME WILL BE WORTH OVER A MILLION POUNDS. I GOT TWO HEALTHY BOYS, THE WORLD TITLE AND A FABULOUS WIFE. IM 24 YEARS OLD. DO YOU STILL CALL ME A PHONEY?"

:)

STP · Post by **STP** » 28 Nov 2007, 07:21

Crew2 wrote:"I THINK IM THE BUSINESS. I GOT TWO J-REGISTRATION RANGE ROVERS OUT THERE -PAID FOR."

I miss Eubank's arrogance. It was kind of real, as well, not the retarded over-the-topness of Hamed and Mayweather that shows more insecurity than anything else.

oliverfennell · Post by **oliverfennell** » 28 Nov 2007, 07:40

NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:Agreed.

Eubank's Autobiog is a great read by the way folks.

Second that. Maybe the best boxing autobiography or biography I've read.

n1ebf · Post by **n1ebf** » 28 Nov 2007, 07:55

it was definitely an Autobiography, not a biography written by someone else for those who might not know the difference, though more than likely had a bit of help.
I picked my up by chance in local library, didn't think they covered that kind of stuff- on the thursday or Friday and had all three hundred odd pages read by Snday lunchtime....I never read books like that I don't even finish most of them.
The bits about crshing and killing people on 2 separate occasions were pretty tragic......I mean once is unlucky, twice sounds like carelessness but that aside it was the best boxing book I've read.
As for the bit above about the million pound house and the J-plate cars and that.....the words "still think I'm a phoney?" are the key........he was obviously getting panned by some critics or other and that is not a brash on unreasonable comment to make when you take it in the context it was meant IMO.
It's not like walking into the pub and saying I've got a million pound house is is? Cut him some slack.

sweetscience · Post by **sweetscience** » 28 Nov 2007, 09:33

oliverfennell wrote:
NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:Agreed.

Eubank's Autobiog is a great read by the way folks.
Second that. Maybe the best boxing autobiography or biography I've read.

wasnt too keen on it, im sure he was chating about 'bom boms' for two chapters

Nigel Benns is better IMO

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 28 Nov 2007, 09:34

they all said peter buckley would lose.. he did.

They all said Reggie Strickland would lose, he did.

And the moral of the story is, they all said Eric Crumble would win, and he didn't.

WildWaylon · Post by **WildWaylon** » 28 Nov 2007, 13:12

And they all said Floyd Mayweather Jnr would win and he ..............

funso banjo baby · Post by **funso banjo baby** » 28 Nov 2007, 16:00

mayweather can arch his back as much as he likes

ricky's going to get him in the end

BAM

im so exciting :P

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 28 Nov 2007, 18:05

it would be a shame if hatton can't match the output of his festering WBU years.

rod riddle · Post by **rod riddle** » 28 Nov 2007, 18:27

Let's not turn a thread about Eubank into a thread about Mayweather/Hatton. I don't see the fit.

Eubank's quotes are gold but he tends to lose it the longer he talks - such is the man. An individual there's no doubt - and a GREAT boxer more Greg.

Greg Nicholas · Post by **Greg Nicholas** » 28 Nov 2007, 23:13

Oh and Mike Mccallum's training his son..

STP · Post by **STP** » 29 Nov 2007, 01:08

PROLOGUE

'Ice cream, jelly and a punch in the belly.' Dorothy used to say this to me every time I went to her house. She was a very old, German Jewish lady, aged 93, whom my mother worked for as a live-in nurse. I was only 19, negotiating my way through one of the toughest cities in the world. I had been sent to the Big Apple to distract me from the life of delinquency that threatened to pull me under back in England.

I loved Dorothy; she used to call me 'sonny boy'. She accepted me. She was wheelchair-bound and I used to pick her up to put her into bed. I would sit and talk to her while my mother, a kind and extremely generous woman, busied herself. The house was crammed full of nostalgic bric-a-brac from over the years. There was also money lying around.

In those days, I never had a penny, so I started to take $20 bills from Dorothy's room. This went on for about two years and added up to over $2000. I knew it was wrong, but I assauged my guilt by telling myself that Dorothy wasn't using the money and my mother didn't notice.

There are certain things you do in your life that you regret but, if you put them right, you feel so much better. I knew I had to give that money back, especially when it became clear Dorothy was becoming progressively more fragile. By now, my fledgling boxing career had progressed quite nicely and I was taking bouts in England, flying back and forth between Brighton and New York. At that point, I was earning a small weekly allowance plus £700 a fight, so I saved up the equivalent of $2500 over a period of months and the very next time I visited Dorothy, I put the money back in her home. If I hadn't done that, my indiscretion would have weighed heavily on my mind. Thankfully, I paid her back.

Dorothy died two weeks later.

--

There's a lot to Eubank if you read his book.

SD-Prophecy · Post by **SD-Prophecy** » 29 Nov 2007, 02:56

Mayweather will retire after this fight... Positive, because he will hurt his hand in this fight and learn his lesson

STP · Post by **STP** » 29 Nov 2007, 02:58

Greg Nicholas wrote:Oh and Mike Mccallum's training his son..

Yeah they got on apparently at Tyson's training camp for the Lennox fight.

They disliked eachother in the early 90s, or McCallum did Eubank anyway

I've heard this as well, McCallum training Eubank Jr. He's apparently pretty good as well!

STP · Post by **STP** » 29 Nov 2007, 03:05

SD-Prophecy wrote:Mayweather will retire after this fight... Positive, because he will hurt his hand in this fight and learn his lesson

If he squeaked by Hatton, and retired, there would be dents in my opinion.

Castillo and Corrales were great warriors but were they really top notch??

Hernandez, Gatti and Oscar were great names but were they not 5-10 years past their bests?

Mitchell was years past his best and Mayweather struggled abit, Judah was years past his best and Mayweather struggled a lot.

Baldomir is now his fornicating sparring partner.

There are dents, when you look into it. What you can't deny though is his brilliant hand speed, brilliant defence and his art in motion, (especially against punchbags like Gatti and Baldomir, I must say)

Chris Eubank beat Nigel Benn and Michael Watson in their approaching primes, when they really wanted to have a pop at him, and beat them fairly and squarely in epics. When I think about it, Eubank doesn't get enough credit for that. It's not like Lennox beat Bowe and Holyfield in the early 90s or that Hatton has gone in with and done over Cotto, is it?

WildWaylon · Post by **WildWaylon** » 29 Nov 2007, 16:00

funso banjo baby wrote:mayweather can arch his back as much as he likes

ricky's going to get him in the end

BAM

im so exciting :P

So in what way are you exciting, please tell.

Al Savani · Post by **Al Savani** » 30 Nov 2007, 04:52

Some people call Chris Eubank a national treasure, but its quite the opposite. He spends his days hovering around the narrow streets of London in his 10 ton truck and carrying his Louis Vitton bag and all he ever gets is 'Eubank you clown', 'Eubank you stupid fornicator', 'Eu bankrutp?', 'Haha, look at Eubank', 'You need a haircut, Eubank', 'Eubank you muppet', 'It's Eubank, what a dick', etc.In all honesty he was more bad for boxing than good, people startingcopying his 'fight for the money thing' and he made boxing a laughing stock in many ways .

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