DavidPayne wrote:73-27 to the Mangler from Mansfield.
I think your from Mansfield Ian, forgive the insult if you're not.
That's weird. J, who posted above you, is originally from Mansfield.
I'm from Darlington...currently exiled in Sheffield.
Thanks for the votes, lads!
P.S. Quote from the American I'm 'debating' with:
"One of our readers from the U.K. (asked) if I would be willing to debate Ian McNeilly, from BritishBoxing.net on the subject of who will win this war. I'm not a particularly big Mayweather fan, but this one seemed too easy, and like Floyd taking the bait from Hatton, I agreed."
Let's hope Hatton wins and his brother gets spanked following the latest serving of bile from him in the current boxing monthly.
As long as there are 11 stone men with heart and a pair of bollcks willing to step into a ring I can't ever see "the likes of you" winning the British Title, let alone the fcking World Title you are going round saying you can win.
You seem to me to have fashioned a "career" boxing unknown Ukranians and over the hill Yanks on big brother's apron strings. To put the comments into context MH has complained about getting left out of the British Title scene while the "likes of Francis Jones" are boxing for it.....and goes on to say how he boxed and won every round against Jones, my pal (hence the message) before knocking him out.
One Matty, after Jones went to Manchester and chased you round the ring slapping you with a broken hand to be declared the winner by both Sky pundits, you got away with a lucky draw. Your camp then waited for 15 months, while others would have loved a rematch (fat chance) til THE DAY AFTER Jones lost for the first time on points to tough and now Commonwealth Welter Champ Ali Nuumbeembe (another guy who seemingly can't coax you into a ring for love nor money), before emailing an offer for a fight with 6 days notice. To clarify, that's offering a fight 6 days after fighting Nuumbembe and going down on points. The only reason Jones took the fight was cos he gave you a fair and square beating the first time round and got robbed. It was clearly TO YOUR GREAT ADVANTAGE to box Jones 6 days after he fought a grueller against Nuumbembe, they way your camp seem to like things it seems to me big time.
Your right you probably did win every round in the "rematch" as Jones was so depleted as well you fcking knew he would be and only a COWARD in my opinion would entice someone into the ring on those terms. Knock Jones out you certainly did not, he was retired at the end of round 6 (It having taken you thet fcking long to come out on top against a fighter boxing at 10% if not less of his ability) BY HIS CORNER despite wanting to carry on......how the fck you see fit to claim a knock out only you know, but you obviously need every edge you can so if that floats your boat keep spouting that shite.
So you keep on moaning about getting left out in the cold in these magazines. Frankly most people haven't seen nor are likely to see that much of you as you prefer American Journeymen....I think your interviews would be better placed in one of the trashy American jobs alongside "My alien abduction hell" or some other bollcks. Cos as far as I can see whenever a decent Brit fighter has tried to get "the likes of you" in a ring there's fcking nobody at home.
Instead of trash talking Jones and Bosworth in your "interviews" why don't you take a leaf out of their books and be a man and make a go of it. Lord knows Craig Dickson, Jamie Coyle, Stuart Elwell, John O'Donnel, Kevin Anderson, Ross Minter Young Muttley and Darren Gethin I'm sure any of them lads would jump in with you for free if only they ever got a sniff instead of trying to do it by creeping round them then coming out with your shitty comments like on the Anderson-Jones title fight stating how you though it would be an easy night's work for Kevin.
I've never much given a toss for watching you box......I'm getting more and more interested with every one as when the illusion is revealed for what it is I'll be able to say I told you so.
NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:Let's hope Hatton wins and his brother gets spanked following the latest serving of bile from him in the current boxing monthly.
As long as there are 11 stone men with heart and a pair of bollcks willing to step into a ring I can't ever see "the likes of you" winning the British Title, let alone the fcking World Title you are going round saying you can win.
You seem to me to have fashioned a "career" boxing unknown Ukranians and over the hill Yanks on big brother's apron strings. To put the comments into context MH has complained about getting left out of the British Title scene while the "likes of Francis Jones" are boxing for it.....and goes on to say how he boxed and won every round against Jones, my pal (hence the message) before knocking him out.
One Matty, after Jones went to Manchester and chased you round the ring slapping you with a broken hand to be declared the winner by both Sky pundits, you got away with a lucky draw. Your camp then waited for 15 months, while others would have loved a rematch (fat chance) til THE DAY AFTER Jones lost for the first time on points to tough and now Commonwealth Welter Champ Ali Nuumbeembe (another guy who seemingly can't coax you into a ring for love nor money), before emailing an offer for a fight with 6 days notice. To clarify, that's offering a fight 6 days after fighting Nuumbembe and going down on points. The only reason Jones took the fight was cos he gave you a fair and square beating the first time round and got robbed. It was clearly TO YOUR GREAT ADVANTAGE to box Jones 6 days after he fought a grueller against Nuumbembe, they way your camp seem to like things it seems to me big time.
Your right you probably did win every round in the "rematch" as Jones was so depleted as well you fcking knew he would be and only a COWARD in my opinion would entice someone into the ring on those terms. Knock Jones out you certainly did not, he was retired at the end of round 6 (It having taken you thet fcking long to come out on top against a fighter boxing at 10% if not less of his ability) BY HIS CORNER despite wanting to carry on......how the fck you see fit to claim a knock out only you know, but you obviously need every edge you can so if that floats your boat keep spouting that shite.
So you keep on moaning about getting left out in the cold in these magazines. Frankly most people haven't seen nor are likely to see that much of you as you prefer American Journeymen....I think your interviews would be better placed in one of the trashy American jobs alongside "My alien abduction hell" or some other bollcks. Cos as far as I can see whenever a decent Brit fighter has tried to get "the likes of you" in a ring there's fcking nobody at home.
Instead of trash talking Jones and Bosworth in your "interviews" why don't you take a leaf out of their books and be a man and make a go of it. Lord knows Craig Dickson, Jamie Coyle, Stuart Elwell, John O'Donnel, Kevin Anderson, Ross Minter Young Muttley and Darren Gethin I'm sure any of them lads would jump in with you for free if only they ever got a sniff instead of trying to do it by creeping round them then coming out with your shitty comments like on the Anderson-Jones title fight stating how you though it would be an easy night's work for Kevin.
I've never much given a toss for watching you box......I'm getting more and more interested with every one as when the illusion is revealed for what it is I'll be able to say I told you so.
NEBF
You sound a little bitter
I think Matty Hatton is a good fighter
You mention 11stone men - I wasn't aware He'd moved up a weight
To back up NEBF, Jones had been wanting a rematch with Matthew Hatton for ages and they didn't want to know.
The next morning after a very gruelling match against Ali N (Francis was absolutely knackered and only his ticker saw him through) he was offered a fight six days later.
I was supposed to meet him on the lunchtime and the crazy bastard had gone for a run! He also had his phone switched off as I would have warmed his lugs over being so daft in accepting the match.
yeah I told him too but you know......time was kind of essence in terms of making a decision......if u can say say there really was one. Obviously it was the wrong decision to make but given that Magic Mushroom had done a disappearing act for so long then had the gall to call someone out the day after their first defeat with 6 days to "prepare"......Francis, being of the warrior mind-set wanted to ram it back down his throat.
Straight after the run he spent the best part of 10 minutes taking a medicine ball with a 13 stone man on the end of it in square in the abs.....abs softened up not 18hrs previously by Nuumbembe......the possibility of suffering a defeat against Mushroom was simply as unlikely as it was unthinkable.
Obviously though the body can't just follow the mind though and suddenly fire itself up, but rather it needs time to recover, and this is what proved Francis' undoing in the end. I remain surprised to this day that Francis was allowed to climb back in the ring so soon. Anderson just took seven weeks off between title fights and looked completely flat on his return. Jones took 6 days.......and yet in the Boxing Monthly he is citing THIS VERY "VICTORY" as a frustration for him that he gets frozen out of the title scene while who he refers to as "the likes of Jones" are boxing for it, even claiming he scored a knockout when in fact Francis was wisely pulled out in the break after round 6 by his corner, despite pleading to be given another round. So yes Beagleboy, the bitterness you detect is real. I am not the kind of person that would set out to harm someone's reputation however (and if the quotes are truly Mushroom's, and I have no reason to believe they are not given the unmerited attention this guy seeks to cover himself with) then every time he comes out with this shit , like he did a year ago in the Boxing News, I in turn, will put the real version of events across to the boxing public, whether they give a toss or not, and show this guy up for what I think he is.
If he didn't go round fabricating crap I would have no need to do it. As stated previously, he tellingly didn't start going on about the slapping he got off Jones in 2003 in his backyard on the Hatton-Tackie bill when he came in for his rude awakening that night. That was only accepted in my view because Jones had been given a scandalous draw 6 months earlier away from home so he no longer had a 100% record. If he still did have one he would never in a million years have been picked as an opponent for Magic Mushroom.
I know it's probably more fun and lucrative boxing in Vegas than it is in Altrincham as someone stated earlier, but this guy is moaning about not being given a shot at the BRITISH title....not to mention detracting from the very noble attempts to win it of others...I will go away and count if you like the number of top 20 0r 30 Brits Hatton has actually boxed on his way to his top ten ranking - BoxRec's number one welterweight no less. If he mixed with these lads AT ALL we would all see the real Magic Mushroom. Nuumbembe, Minter, O'Donnel and a fit Jones would have torn him a new a*sehole to coin a phrase I have discovered since becoming a member of BoxRec. The man isn't worth my time and effort, if he'd only keep shtum for 5 minutes I wouldn't have to waste my time.
Apologies for invading your thread Ian, no excuses.
As regards 11 stone men.....what I meant was that welterweight boxers don't walk around at 10 stone 7......hell they don't even walk around at 11 stone for that matter. I was not suggesting that the Mushroom had moved up a weight. Not unless his head has been growing.