'Prince' Naseem ....

observer1 · Post by **observer1** » 27 Nov 2007, 22:42

Hi, i admit i know very little about Boxing, and would like to make that clear first of all...

....I justed wanted to say, i saw on Youtube 'Prince' Naseed. Up until now i never really thought much of him, just some Egotistic Boxer who was very succesful in his days.

But, when i actually saw footage of him fighting, i must say.. i was impressed.

I mean a lot of boxers intimidate their opponents their own ways, but this one would just Taunt and Over-Taunt and almost humiliate his opponenet by just dancing about. More of an entertainer than a Fighter.

I also liked how he Annoyed the Crowd into making them dislike Naseem. But as far as he was concerned, it bought him tickets...

I think he was class and alot of people dont give him credit for what he achieved, especially for British Boxing..

Shame what he has done recently though, and how he disrespected his religion, mainly due to arrogance.

Even though his antics and lack of seriousness running up to the barrera fight resulting in his loss, i must give credit when its due...

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 27 Nov 2007, 22:51

He was in truth a pretty good champ, but the way he lost to Barrera resulted in two things --- The first is he was shown, both in the fight & in his lasting response to defeat, to be a guy of questionable heart & therefore no legend of the ring.

The second is that he's now become largely forgotten, & those that do discuss him tend to undersell how good he was as a result of the Barrera fiasco.

I think he is going to be underrated in history, but at the same time he could never prove himself a genuinely special champion either, outside of his oddball fighting style.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 28 Nov 2007, 07:33

He would of never beaten Barrera in any way, or survived a guy like Pac.

Hamed amassed a long list of WBO defences against the token obscures, never beens, a few has beens.. But moved up into the elite level he got well beat & lost all desire to go on. Great fighters come back- he didn't.

Hamed was a flashy puncher, and a complete prick who spoke like he was a black American Gangsta rapper. People remember him for being a prick then, and now a fat prick who crushes people whilst speeding in his BMW then swaggering out of prison and leaving in a stretched limo.

The guy has no redeeming features whatsoever.

ringsider · Post by **ringsider** » 28 Nov 2007, 11:57

Naseem was a chump southpaw. To be impressed by him shows little knowledge of boxing. He was a clown who lowered the ring entrance to the level of the WWF. Once he fought a real fighter (Barrera) he got his ass handed to him. Then he was gone.....good riddance say I!!

Borinken25 · Post by **Borinken25** » 28 Nov 2007, 12:29

Goodnight, Irene wrote:He was in truth a pretty good champ, but the way he lost to Barrera resulted in two things --- The first is he was shown, both in the fight & in his lasting response to defeat, to be a guy of questionable heart & therefore no legend of the ring.

The second is that he's now become largely forgotten, & those that do discuss him tend to undersell how good he was as a result of the Barrera fiasco.

I think he is going to be underrated in history, but at the same time he could never prove himself a genuinely special champion either, outside of his oddball fighting style.

Again I agree with you. He was a pretty good champ and he fought all the champions on his division and won. What people remember the most about his loss to Barrera is how he didn't want to fight no more after that.

observer1 · Post by **observer1** » 28 Nov 2007, 12:34

At the Point where he fought Barrera, Nearly everyone wanted him to lose...
He lost, He had his moment, so i doubt there was much for him to stay fighting.

He brought alot of Fans to the Sport, thats no doubt

ringsider · Post by **ringsider** » 28 Nov 2007, 13:42

observer1 wrote:
He brought alot of Fans to the Sport, thats no doubt

BS.....

observer1 · Post by **observer1** » 28 Nov 2007, 18:06

ringsider wrote:
observer1 wrote:
He brought alot of Fans to the Sport, thats no doubt
BS.....

Do you have Difficulty stringing a sentence together?

Care to elbaorate??

To Avid Boxing Fans, he may decent, but not "Up There" With the most talented fighters. But the average Joe, he got attention to the sport with his eccentric attitude...

IM not being a Fanboy or anything, its not like he is one of my favorite boxers, but from what i know, alot of people heard of Naseem.

Not many of the other Boxers who seem to be popular in the Boxing world

ringsider · Post by **ringsider** » 28 Nov 2007, 19:39

observer1 · Post by **observer1** » 28 Nov 2007, 20:15

good point

T.M.K · Post by **T.M.K** » 02 Dec 2007, 15:42

Goodnight, Irene wrote: The second is that he's now become largely forgotten, & those that do discuss him tend to undersell how good he was as a result of the Barrera fiasco. I think he is going to be underrated in history, but at the same time he could never prove himself a genuinely special champion either, outside of his oddball fighting style.

VERY good points sir!

overhand_right wrote:He would of never beaten Barrera in any way, or survived a guy like Pac....

I disagree. The Hamed of 1997 would have had a SUPERB shot at beating the Barrera of 1997. Indeed, the pre-Morales version of Barrera wold have been very much primed for Naz in my opinion.

overhand_right wrote: Hamed amassed a long list of WBO defences against the token obscures, never beens, a few has beens...

Now that is unfair and distored probably by the ravages of time..... Barrera and Hamed both had very good reings in the 90's, and Hamed's was miles better in my view. Hamed had a good resume as champion - something which is now forgotten due to his prickish behaviour outside the ring....

ringsider wrote:Naseem was a chump southpaw. To be impressed by him shows little knowledge of boxing.

Actually he was a switch-hitter. Many were VERY impressed by him pre-2000. I'd say anyone who calls him a chump-southpaw shows little knowledge of boxing..... but there you go.

"T.M.K"

observer1 · Post by **observer1** » 02 Dec 2007, 18:14

well said TMK