Skelton to fight Chagaev

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 05 Dec 2007, 12:51

http://www.fightnews.com/fightnews_2/he ... ppeke.html

He ain't winning but good luck to Skelton.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 05 Dec 2007, 12:58

Brilliant news. At least Matt gets a chance to let it all hang out.

He'll know what he has after this fight.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 05 Dec 2007, 13:08

Chagaev will knock him out.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 05 Dec 2007, 13:17

Doubt Chagaev can knock out a guy like Skelton.

Why dont we get behind the likeable big bear?

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 05 Dec 2007, 14:16

finally an escape from the abandoned merry go round.

I think Jiggiev, as holdsworth calls him, wins but it should be a fun ugly depressing maul while it lasts.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 05 Dec 2007, 14:21

overhand_right wrote:Doubt Chagaev can knock out a guy like Skelton.

Why dont we get behind the likeable big bear?

It's not that I'm not getting behind him I just think he's way out of his depth. Did you see his last fight?

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 05 Dec 2007, 14:36

when WAS his last fight? About eleven years ago????

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 05 Dec 2007, 14:36

I think Chageav's really good, his compact workrate and skills have impressed me. Don't think Skeleton stands much of a chance but then again Changaev's been quite sick recently so he may have got him at a perfect time.

thaibox uk · Post by **thaibox uk** » 05 Dec 2007, 14:54

42+ years old no amateur experience and fighting for a decent version of the world title in his 23rd fight, surely its time to give Matt some credit?
He has a style thats proved very difficult to beat and will fight with his heart for the full 3 minutes of all 12 rounds .
A Brit fighting for a heavyweight title we should all be getting behind him
so good luck Matt lets have another champ!!!

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 05 Dec 2007, 15:01

Good luck to Matt but Chagaev's educated southpaw counter punching will see the ex-amateur stalwart's straight left cross send Skelton to the matt somewhere around the half way point.

Hope I am wrong but can only see one winner here..

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 05 Dec 2007, 15:25

will eugene come out of the woodwork, or is he currently in a canoe off the north east coast...

Razor · Post by **Razor** » 05 Dec 2007, 17:35

Come on Matt do it for us... Come on lads lets get behind the big lad, damnit it could be our last heavyweight title shot for a long long time. Lets get behind him man... COME ON MATT!!!

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 05 Dec 2007, 17:42

nickd wrote:Chagaev will knock him out.

I'm going for Chagaev on points, he more wears them down like with Sprott.

Plus Danny hit Skelton with some bombs and couldn't deck him.

Skelton has more a chance against Ibragimov though, If Holy wasn't lazy In that fight and did more than plodding forward he could of hurt that guy.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 06 Dec 2007, 06:07

Max Molyneux wrote:
nickd wrote:Chagaev will knock him out.
I'm going for Chagaev on points, he more wears them down like with Sprott.

Plus Danny hit Skelton with some bombs and couldn't deck him.

Skelton has more a chance against Ibragimov though, If Holy wasn't lazy In that fight and did more than plodding forward he could of hurt that guy.

True, but Chagaev is a lot better than Williams.

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 06 Dec 2007, 06:11

nickd wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:
nickd wrote:Chagaev will knock him out.
I'm going for Chagaev on points, he more wears them down like with Sprott.

Plus Danny hit Skelton with some bombs and couldn't deck him.

Skelton has more a chance against Ibragimov though, If Holy wasn't lazy In that fight and did more than plodding forward he could of hurt that guy.
True, but Chagaev is a lot better than Williams.

I think Skelton will get stopped too tbh. Probably not KO'd, but stopped. Wish him all the best mind, but can't see him winning for a second

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 06 Dec 2007, 06:13

Let's put it in perspective, we're talking about a guy struggling to look good and perform well at domestic level up against probably the number 2 Heavyweight in the world. Levels!

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 06 Dec 2007, 06:49

nickd wrote:It's not that I'm not getting behind him I just think he's way out of his depth. Did you see his last fight?

Yeah but do you really think that was all Skelton has to offer? Skelton played it safe against a guy he had knocked out before. Didn't want to run into the shot that flattened Audley or risk any injury.

The Big Bear isn't going to do just enough to lose like some of boxings prima donnas, he will come to play, mix it up with 'White Tyson' and someones gonna be left standing when the smoke clears!

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 06 Dec 2007, 06:50

thaibox uk wrote:42+ years old no amateur experience and fighting for a decent version of the world title in his 23rd fight, surely its time to give Matt some credit?
He has a style thats proved very difficult to beat and will fight with his heart for the full 3 minutes of all 12 rounds .
A Brit fighting for a heavyweight title we should all be getting behind him
so good luck Matt lets have another champ!!!

Awesome post buddy agree with every line.

Matt Skelton is a remarkable man and more importantly before dismissing him a genuine HARD MAN...

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 06 Dec 2007, 06:51

nickd wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:
nickd wrote:Chagaev will knock him out.
I'm going for Chagaev on points, he more wears them down like with Sprott.

Plus Danny hit Skelton with some bombs and couldn't deck him.

Skelton has more a chance against Ibragimov though, If Holy wasn't lazy In that fight and did more than plodding forward he could of hurt that guy.
True, but Chagaev is a lot better than Williams.

He Is better but he don't hit as hard.

Chag will win on points.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 06 Dec 2007, 06:51

nickd wrote: True, but Chagaev is a lot better than Williams.

More skilled, but smaller and does not punch as hard.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 06 Dec 2007, 07:05

Williams is a bigger puncher than Chagaev on what basis? Stopping Tyson? I guess Kevin McBride is a bigger puncher than Chagaev too.

Even if Williams is a bigger puncher then Chagaev can't stop Skelton? We all know there'a s lot more to it than that. Chagaev is an excellent counterpuncher, Sketon will eat plenty of tasty counters as he bulls his way in. I don't see him lasting 12 rounds.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 06 Dec 2007, 09:33

Talking on pure punch power, yes Kevin McBride probably does hit a lot harder than Chagaev. McBride had Golota rocking and i couldn't see Chagaev, after his 24 rds of flurrying over Ruiz & Valuev, doing any 1 punch damage on world stage.

Chagaev stopped Sprott in 8 who essentially just gave in, whilst Williams had iced Sprott twice over the years, both time with 1 punch. Williams iced Meehan with 1 shot, who went 12 with hard hitting Brewster.

Knock Fat Dan all ya like but hes a huge bloke and knows how to swing with might!!

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 06 Dec 2007, 09:49

My point is it doesn't mean Chagaev can't stop Skelton just because Williams couldn't. Chagaev is on a different level to our dometic heavies.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 06 Dec 2007, 11:05

Cus D'Amato used to say that a determined boxer wouldn't go down to one punch they saw but if they got hit by a few then they would be KDed by the confusion of trying to react to the punches more than anything. Thats what Changev will do to Skelton all night.

Matt has done well and been lucky to get to this point and I wish him well but I don't rate his chances.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 06 Dec 2007, 14:03

It looks a certain home win but good luck to Matt on this one anyway. Has the venue/date been arranged yet? I am sure Franky will get home advantage as Chagaev is prone to travel.