Technical question 9 yr olds

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Technical question 9 yr olds

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Question: The USA Boxing rulebook states that an 8 yr old can only box a 9 yr old. They cannot box a 10 yr old under any circumstances, the way I read it. Can a 9 yr old box on a club show (non-tournament show) under the 24 month rule, or is the 9 yr old also governed by the rules prohibiting them from boxing anyone but an 8 yr old or a 10 yr old? Of course, most of the time one would not WANT their 9 yr old boxer to box an 11 yr old, even if the age difference is less than 24 months, but this came up in a discussion, was just curious.
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For club shows the 24 month rule does not apply to 8 and 16 year olds. 8 year olds can not box against anyone older than 9. 16 years old can not box anyone older than 17. This is my understanding of the rule.
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Post by Dennis »

Yes a 9 yr old can box an 11 year old as long as they are within 24 months.

Ron - I think you are correct, but there can be exceptions with the 16 year olds. Some 16 year olds this year were competing in qualifiers for the US Championships and Olympic Trials and were officially open class boxers. It would seem stupid for them to not be able to box a 20 year old in a club show even though they were doing it in tournaments. However, that may be one of those idiosyncrasies of the rules.

I don't know why the rule was written to modify the 24 month rule for 16 year olds. I understand it for the 8 year olds.
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Some 16 year olds this year were competing in qualifiers for the US Championships and Olympic Trials and were officially open class boxers. It would seem stupid for them to not be able to box a 20 year old in a club show even though they were doing it in tournaments
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I would think that the above automatically put them in the open "senior" class since once they have boxed as a senior, they are no longer considered a JO. See below rule:

(a) Should a situation occur requiring qualifying events for U.S. Championships, Pan American Games or Olympic Games to be conducted in the calendar year prior to the event, USA Boxing’s Board of Directors shall have the authority to establish age criteria in compliance with international (AIBA) rules. Under no circumstances will a 16-year-old boxer compete in the Junior Olympic Tournament process once the athlete has competed in an open-class qualifying event.
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Post by Dennis »

Mel - that rule just says that they can't compete in the JO tournament process. It doesn't say that they can't box other J.O. boxers in club shows. I also think most officials would allow the 16 year old open-class boxer to box other open-class boxers in club shows.

Remember Raynell Williams entered a senior tourney in 2005 even though he wasn't old enough and was DQ'd. Afterwards, he was not able to enter the JO tourney. Unfortunately for him, he wasn't allowed to then enter other senior tournaments or compete as an open-class boxer until he was actually old enough. It doesn't seem to have hindered him though as he is now our Olympian.

The above scenario also happened with Juan McPherson. He proved that a 16 year old can be mature enough to box in the open class even at the international level. Both boxers came from the Cleveland area.
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The above scenario also happened with Juan McPherson. He proved that a 16 year old can be mature enough to box in the open class even at the international level.
Yeah - he got sent home from the World Championships because he wasn't 17. :roll:
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Post by kidscoach »

Thankyou for the info. I appreciate it.
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Post by boxmel »

Thankyou for the info. I appreciate it.
You're welcome, Kidscoach. Sometimes some of us bicker a bit - keeps things lively - but this forum is a great place to answer questions and impart the rules. Glad you've joined. :D
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Post by kidscoach »

I have been around longer than I have been posting. I think there have been some pretty dynamic discussions, and thats good for all of us.
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Yep - very good!! Do we know you??????
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Bickering? Never.
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Bickering? Never.
Did you raise your right hand and swear to tell the truth and nothing but the truth before you typed the above???? 8)
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My fingers were crossed.
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