HAPPY XMAS ODLANDIER SOLIS= FRANS BOTHA?!!

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 07 Dec 2007, 08:57

Shit the bed!

5-0 Odlandier Solis next opponent on Dec 23rd is no less than former heavyweight champion Frans Botha!!!

Botha maybe 40 but this is some seriously ambitious match making.

Guys like Solis and Alexander Povetkin expose the pretensions of Audley Harrison, Roman Greenberg type fighters and put most prospects to shame.

deadpan · Post by **deadpan** » 07 Dec 2007, 09:40

My thoughts exactly. Apart from the mattress soiling. Solis will be facing McCall when he's 6-0 at this rate.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 07 Dec 2007, 09:41

It didn't do Oleg Maskaev any harm.

Facing McCall early that is, if I recall correctly!

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 07 Dec 2007, 09:43

I dont think any 6-0 fighter could face the Oliver McCall of 1996 without facing the same fate Maskaev did.

It would have to be a shithot 6-0 fighter to beat the Oliver McCall of TODAY.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 07 Dec 2007, 09:47

Maskaev also fought Tua in his 11th contest. Alex Stewart in his 12th.

People often point to Oleg's 5 defeats without full understanding of the nature of those defeats.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 07 Dec 2007, 09:53

fornicate me I am glad Im not underwriting this guys health insurance. Lets hope its brave but not stupid match making.

Havins said that Botha has only fought 1 time since 2002

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 07 Dec 2007, 10:14

yeah they have been keen to move him on fast......last time i saw pics of him though he was very big....Solis oozes class but he won't win the world title with those spare tires around his ribs

Haye-Solis on youtube the other day....what chances they meet one day at heavyweight?!?

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 07 Dec 2007, 10:16

botha will come in as a disinterested blob.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 07 Dec 2007, 10:17

Botha has been "fighting" in UFC, Kickboxing etc whatever they call that flash in the pan stuff as well as the solitary fight since 2002.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 07 Dec 2007, 10:19

DavidPayne wrote:Botha has been "fighting" in UFC, Kickboxing etc whatever they call that flash in the pan stuff as well as the solitary fight since 2002.

I think I saw him looking like shit in a K1 fight not so long ago actually!

Southpaw Stylist · Post by **Southpaw Stylist** » 07 Dec 2007, 10:27

Haye v Solis = The biggest fight EVER in the next five years so long as none of them loses beforehand.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 07 Dec 2007, 10:33

Southpaw Stylist wrote:Haye v Solis = The biggest fight EVER in the next five years so long as none of them loses beforehand.

rather a big if unfortunatly. Good to see two ambitiouse HWs

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 07 Dec 2007, 12:51

Southpaw Stylist wrote:Haye v Solis = The biggest fight EVER in the next five years so long as none of them loses beforehand.

Unbelievably deluded. You really think either of these guys can become popular? A cuban fighting out of germany and Haye.. well Haye is just Haye. He fights in small venues.

ArtOfWar · Post by **ArtOfWar** » 07 Dec 2007, 13:00

josh fg wrote:eff me I am glad Im not underwriting this guys health insurance. Lets hope its brave but not stupid match making.

Havins said that Botha has only fought 1 time since 2002

Exactly, one time since 2002. It's not risky match making at all, Solis is a top class prospect and Botha is a fat old man. Solis will have him out of there inside three rounds.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 07 Dec 2007, 13:09

overhand_right wrote:
Southpaw Stylist wrote:Haye v Solis = The biggest fight EVER in the next five years so long as none of them loses beforehand.
Unbelievably deluded. You really think either of these guys can become popular? A cuban fighting out of germany and Haye.. well Haye is just Haye. He fights in small venues.

I think Haye will be big he has filled wembley arena against Bonin he is articulat and good looking and hits hard, he was badly managed previously however Maloney is doing okay. I was talking to a guy who worked in the mail room at my old work who liked him cos he was funny of S0ccer AM

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 07 Dec 2007, 14:13

overhand_right wrote:
Southpaw Stylist wrote:Haye v Solis = The biggest fight EVER in the next five years so long as none of them loses beforehand.
Unbelievably deluded. You really think either of these guys can become popular? A cuban fighting out of germany and Haye.. well Haye is just Haye. He fights in small venues.

I think Haye can be very big. He has everything a popular fighter needs and is destined for bigger things. Having the cruiser titles gives him some pedigree and it should all fall into place if he's promoted right and given the appropriate fights.

Haye v Solis COULD be a big fight one day. If Solis got in shape and was all business he'd really build up a reputation especially in today's talent starved heavyweight scene. I think Haye, Solis and Povetkin could all bring some profile to heavyweight.

But definitely, less of this small hall stuff for Haye.

I can imagine it, if Solis stays fat and wastes his talent. Haye vs Solis at the York Hall, or some little sports centre.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 07 Dec 2007, 16:40

Autobarn wrote:
overhand_right wrote:
Southpaw Stylist wrote:Haye v Solis = The biggest fight EVER in the next five years so long as none of them loses beforehand.
Unbelievably deluded. You really think either of these guys can become popular? A cuban fighting out of germany and Haye.. well Haye is just Haye. He fights in small venues.
I think Haye can be very big. He has everything a popular fighter needs and is destined for bigger things. Having the cruiser titles gives him some pedigree and it should all fall into place if he's promoted right and given the appropriate fights.

Haye v Solis COULD be a big fight one day. If Solis got in shape and was all business he'd really build up a reputation especially in today's talent starved heavyweight scene. I think Haye, Solis and Povetkin could all bring some profile to heavyweight.

But definitely, less of this small hall stuff for Haye.

I can imagine it, if Solis stays fat and wastes his talent. Haye vs Solis at the York Hall, or some little sports centre.

If haye gets a european title at HW or KOs a couple of fringe contenders golden boy will tie up a US promotional deal so quick you wouldn't believe it. They are business men and a good looking guy who talks and hits hard is boxoffice.

Southpaw Stylist · Post by **Southpaw Stylist** » 08 Dec 2007, 07:59

It seems the general consensus agrees with me.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 08 Dec 2007, 10:28

josh fg wrote:
Autobarn wrote:
overhand_right wrote: Unbelievably deluded. You really think either of these guys can become popular? A cuban fighting out of germany and Haye.. well Haye is just Haye. He fights in small venues.
I think Haye can be very big. He has everything a popular fighter needs and is destined for bigger things. Having the cruiser titles gives him some pedigree and it should all fall into place if he's promoted right and given the appropriate fights.

Haye v Solis COULD be a big fight one day. If Solis got in shape and was all business he'd really build up a reputation especially in today's talent starved heavyweight scene. I think Haye, Solis and Povetkin could all bring some profile to heavyweight.

But definitely, less of this small hall stuff for Haye.

I can imagine it, if Solis stays fat and wastes his talent. Haye vs Solis at the York Hall, or some little sports centre.
If haye gets a european title at HW or KOs a couple of fringe contenders golden boy will tie up a US promotional deal so quick you wouldn't believe it. They are business men and a good looking guy who talks and hits hard is boxoffice.

also, I think Haye is on fairly friendly terms with Hopkins. Or at least, he did meet him in a gym somewhere and they were photographed together a couple of years back. Maybe Hopkins will put 2 and 2 together for his Goldenb Boy boss, who knows.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 20 Dec 2007, 07:45

Sorry if this is old news but has Botha been replaced by giant Julius Long? Just read it on that "Opening Bell" thing that comes from BN to the e-mail account.

dookus · Post by **dookus** » 20 Dec 2007, 07:51

hahaha, that wont last very long

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 20 Dec 2007, 08:29

WHAT A REPLACEMENT! Should be a decent few seconds work against Julius 'Long Odds'...