Hatton Didn't Lose

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Re: Hatton Didn't Lose

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josh fg wrote:
werewolf wrote:The ref was on the payroll and wouldn't let him fight inside. That's teh bottom line. Hatton was manhandling Mayweather on the inside. I don't care what their crooked don king record books say, the fight was No Contest - and if things were really fair, the fight should be awarded to Hatton because he was in there fighting against two men, and the ref wasn't even putting on an act of being fair, at one point getting so anxious to earn his pay check that he deducted a point from Hatton for no apparent reason.






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Hatton did lose I am afraid, however we have to respect hatton for conceding all the advantages to Mayweather because of his will to fight the best. His ref, his size of ring, his home town etc all incodently advantages that he had when fighting Kosta thats not to say it would have been any different in manchester but you have to respect hattons bollox for taking those risks against such a great boxer.
How many times has had all the advantages stacked in his favour? Plenty.

Cortez was breaking the action but Hatton was not exactly throwing much. Mayweather was working well on the inside.

All we heard in the run up to the fight was how much stronger he would be, how the weight wouldn't be a problem, but an advantage. How they had sized Mayweathe up and couldn't get over how small he was.

Team Hatton ruled out every excuse before the fight. Plus he had the promoter of the show and all Goldenboys affiliates (Hopkins, Mosely, Barrera etc) on his side. The crowd was all for Ricky.

I think its a poor excuse blaiming Cortez. As said before there is no blame, Mayweather was better and beat Hatton at his own game.
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Cortez did referee the fight with a slight bias towards Mayweather's style of fighting, but it wouldn't have made a difference to the result even if Hatton had been allowed to fight in a similar way to how he fought Kostya Tszyu.
You could see that Mayweather was always able to match and nullify Ricky's work on the inside, leaving Floyd to dominate the exchanges on the outside. Mayweather was just too good.

I think Hatton's best chance of winning the fight was to try and work the body from the start and try to sink in one of those devastating shots to the ribs, but he just couldn't do it.

Congratulations to Mayweather for the impressive victory. Commiserations to Ricky. He gave it his all, but he was just outclassed.

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Post by Max Molyneux »

pasty_spud wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:Image

He sure didn't lose.
he pushed him on the corner and ricky knocked himself out by headbutting the corner pads....


:wink:
It was Floyd's pimp hand that timed Hatton goooood and put him off balance Into the corner.
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Re: Hatton Didn't Lose

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dbf wrote:
josh fg wrote:
werewolf wrote:The ref was on the payroll and wouldn't let him fight inside. That's teh bottom line. Hatton was manhandling Mayweather on the inside. I don't care what their crooked don king record books say, the fight was No Contest - and if things were really fair, the fight should be awarded to Hatton because he was in there fighting against two men, and the ref wasn't even putting on an act of being fair, at one point getting so anxious to earn his pay check that he deducted a point from Hatton for no apparent reason.






ww
Hatton did lose I am afraid, however we have to respect hatton for conceding all the advantages to Mayweather because of his will to fight the best. His ref, his size of ring, his home town etc all incodently advantages that he had when fighting Kosta thats not to say it would have been any different in manchester but you have to respect hattons bollox for taking those risks against such a great boxer.
How many times has had all the advantages stacked in his favour? Plenty.

Cortez was breaking the action but Hatton was not exactly throwing much. Mayweather was working well on the inside.

All we heard in the run up to the fight was how much stronger he would be, how the weight wouldn't be a problem, but an advantage. How they had sized Mayweathe up and couldn't get over how small he was.

Team Hatton ruled out every excuse before the fight. Plus he had the promoter of the show and all Goldenboys affiliates (Hopkins, Mosely, Barrera etc) on his side. The crowd was all for Ricky.

I think its a poor excuse blaiming Cortez. As said before there is no blame, Mayweather was better and beat Hatton at his own game.
I agree he had many such advantages vs Kosta
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Post by armageto »

werewolf wrote:Something calling itself "Armageto" wrote: "Trust me, this guy is a racist bla bla bla.

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Like Hatton told the bent ref, kiss my ass, motherfucker! Nobody said a single f'ng thing about race here except you.

Bullshitters trying to obfuscate the issues with their politically correct bullshit, as usual.

Reiterate: The fight should be declared No Contest because Cortez was bent and did not let Hatton fight.





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Were you not on the Klitschko site and were thrown off for your over the top racism? If not, I'm sorry, but it should be you. Same user name, same ww at the end of every post. Looks all the same to me. Give people some PM's calling them n@gger when they are not even black. Great job champ...... :TU:

I'll just go back to the current scene because you will drag the British scene right down there with it anyhow.....
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Post by Raff The Frenchman »

JCS wrote:Hatton lost. You guys need to keep these kind of Brits inside the Brit board where they belong :)
that was really the type of comment that makes the english people hate the americans...thats also the kind of comment that makes the rest of the world think american people are retarded rednecks...perhaps you should keep yourself on the current scene forum where you belong too then?

WW is a troll don't feed the troll, eat humble pie, that's it, no need to make excuses for the english and no need to taunt english people on their own forum too...
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werewolf wrote:The ref was on the payroll and wouldn't let him fight inside. That's teh bottom line. Hatton was manhandling Mayweather on the inside. I don't care what their crooked don king record books say, the fight was No Contest - and if things were really fair, the fight should be awarded to Hatton because he was in there fighting against two men, and the ref wasn't even putting on an act of being fair, at one point getting so anxious to earn his pay check that he deducted a point from Hatton for no apparent reason.






ww
My boy, how pathetic is that.

Here is the truth: in spite of all his bravery, Hatton got spanked by a far superior boxer.
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Post by werewolf »

glahn wrote:I think the referee and the judges were almost certainly under orders, but it doesn't make any difference because Ricky would have lost anyway.

We'll never know, will we, because Hatton was not allowed to fight. His arms are much shorter than Mayweather's and he needed to fight on the inside and the crooked referee wouldn't let him fight on the inside, and constantly disrupted his concentration as well.

And again, Raff, Armageto, and all you name calling little twats can kiss my ass. I'll tell it like it is!





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werewolf wrote:
glahn wrote:I think the referee and the judges were almost certainly under orders, but it doesn't make any difference because Ricky would have lost anyway.

We'll never know, will we, because Hatton was not allowed to fight. His arms are much shorter than Mayweather's and he needed to fight on the inside and the crooked referee wouldn't let him fight on the inside, and constantly disrupted his concentration as well.

And again, Raff, Armageto, and all you name calling little twats can kiss my ass. I'll tell it like it is!





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You want to tell it like it is? OK:

Mayweather TKO 10, thanks for playing.
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werewolf wrote:
glahn wrote:I think the referee and the judges were almost certainly under orders, but it doesn't make any difference because Ricky would have lost anyway.

We'll never know, will we, because Hatton was not allowed to fight. His arms are much shorter than Mayweather's and he needed to fight on the inside and the crooked referee wouldn't let him fight on the inside, and constantly disrupted his concentration as well.

And again, Raff, Armageto, and all you name calling little twats can kiss my ass. I'll tell it like it is!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

You tell as you would like it to be.
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Post by mattyp151 »

werewolf wrote:
glahn wrote:I think the referee and the judges were almost certainly under orders, but it doesn't make any difference because Ricky would have lost anyway.

We'll never know, will we, because Hatton was not allowed to fight. His arms are much shorter than Mayweather's and he needed to fight on the inside and the crooked referee wouldn't let him fight on the inside, and constantly disrupted his concentration as well.

And again, Raff, Armageto, and all you name calling little twats can kiss my ass. I'll tell it like it is!





ww
Rules of boxing:

You can't hold your opponent and hit him at the same time

But, since Hatton does it, it's "mauling" and "fighting on the inside"....hooray for one-sided bullshit.
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Post by werewolf »

Hatton was NOT holding and hitting at the same time. As soon as he would close on M the crooked ref was there right in his face flapping his arms and squawking and disrupting his concentration and then diving in headfirst. He was not allowed to fight on teh inside.
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werewolf wrote:Hatton was NOT holding and hitting at the same time. As soon as he would close on M the crooked ref was there right in his face flapping his arms and squawking and disrupting his concentration and then diving in headfirst. He was not allowed to fight on teh inside.
Again, fighting on the inside =/= holding and hitting like Hatton was doing. Just man up and say it "HATTON GOT BEAT AT HIS OWN GAME!"
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Post by Chambers2 »

Hatton lost - Nuff said.

There's no disgrace in losing to someone of Floyds quality though, he'll go down as one of the best ever. His speed is phenomenal and it was an excellent shot to put Ricky down.

Hatton gave it his all and went out on his shield, he could have eeked the fight out and lost on points, but he gave everything he'd got in search of the win and he went out on his shield.

Respect to Ricky for hunting down the fight with Floyd.
Respect to Ricky for how he handled himself in the pre-fight build up.
Respect to Ricky for giving everything he had in the ring.

I hope he now has a home-coming mega fight with Junior Witter!!

Not an excuse for the loss, but Cortez was poor IMO
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werewolf wrote:Hatton was NOT holding and hitting at the same time. As soon as he would close on M the crooked ref was there right in his face flapping his arms and squawking and disrupting his concentration and then diving in headfirst. He was not allowed to fight on teh inside.
Boy is losing hard for some. :cry:

To me it seems btw that the more free flow the ref allowed, the more Ricky got hit, especially when he mauled Mayweather on the ropes. It was always Mayweather who ended Ricky's ineffective agression with a couple of well-timed, crisp counterpunches that were bang on target.
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Post by pundit »

Chambers2 wrote:Not an excuse for the loss, but Cortez was poor IMO
I thought Cortez did OK. This was a tough fight to officiate. Very fast. Very unclean.

Maybe he should have taken PBF a point of too (for using forearms or for whatever) to placate the British fans. It would have changed nothing.
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Post by werewolf »

Again, fighting on the inside =/= holding and hitting like Hatton was doing.


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Fighting on the inside = holding and hitting, huh? And, again, Hatton was NOT holding and hitting. Show me where he was holding and hitting. You can't because he wasn't.
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werewolf wrote:Again, fighting on the inside =/= holding and hitting like Hatton was doing.


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Fighting on the inside = holding and hitting, huh? And, again, Hatton was NOT holding and hitting. Show me where he was holding and hitting. You can't because he wasn't.
Let me watch the fight again, and I will show you. Again, Hatton got beat at his own game and got KOed, stop crying, you look pathetic.
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werewolf wrote:Again, fighting on the inside =/= holding and hitting like Hatton was doing.


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Fighting on the inside = holding and hitting, huh? And, again, Hatton was NOT holding and hitting. Show me where he was holding and hitting. You can't because he wasn't.
No. He was holding and getting hit.
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Post by werewolf »

pundit wrote:
werewolf wrote:Hatton was NOT holding and hitting at the same time. As soon as he would close on M the crooked ref was there right in his face flapping his arms and squawking and disrupting his concentration and then diving in headfirst. He was not allowed to fight on teh inside.
Boy is losing hard for some. :cry:

To me it seems btw that the more free flow the ref allowed, the more Ricky got hit, especially when he mauled Mayweather on the ropes. It was always Mayweather who ended Ricky's ineffective agression with a couple of well-timed, crisp counterpunches that were bang on target.

Not true. In fact Mayweather was knocked through the ropes at one point. And "free flow"? Give me af'ing break. The only time the crooked ref allowed free low was when Mayweather was doing his thing.
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Post by werewolf »

mattyp151 wrote:
werewolf wrote:Again, fighting on the inside =/= holding and hitting like Hatton was doing.


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Fighting on the inside = holding and hitting, huh? And, again, Hatton was NOT holding and hitting. Show me where he was holding and hitting. You can't because he wasn't.
Let me watch the fight again, and I will show you. Again, Hatton got beat at his own game and got KOed, stop crying, you look pathetic.

Yeah, fornicate you too, and watch the fight again and watch the ref action. I watched the fight live and the very first time I saw Cortez dive in I knew that he was bought and paid for.

By the way, is the fight on Youtube or something so i can watch it again?
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werewolf wrote:
pundit wrote:
werewolf wrote:Hatton was NOT holding and hitting at the same time. As soon as he would close on M the crooked ref was there right in his face flapping his arms and squawking and disrupting his concentration and then diving in headfirst. He was not allowed to fight on teh inside.
Boy is losing hard for some. :cry:

To me it seems btw that the more free flow the ref allowed, the more Ricky got hit, especially when he mauled Mayweather on the ropes. It was always Mayweather who ended Ricky's ineffective agression with a couple of well-timed, crisp counterpunches that were bang on target.
Not true. In fact Mayweather was knocked through the ropes at one point.
PBF was PUSHED through the ropes. Pusing is not really boxing, as you might know.
And "free flow"? Give me af'ing break. The only time the crooked ref allowed free low was when Mayweather was doing his thing.
The ref protected Hatton by breaking up the siutations on the ropes. Once he stopped doing so, Hatton was toast. Mayweather smothered hiss attempts and then landed nice, crisp, clean counterpunches.

Hatton didn't hit much all night. Without connecting, it's hard to win a boxing fight.
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werewolf wrote:
pundit wrote:
werewolf wrote:Hatton was NOT holding and hitting at the same time. As soon as he would close on M the crooked ref was there right in his face flapping his arms and squawking and disrupting his concentration and then diving in headfirst. He was not allowed to fight on teh inside.
Boy is losing hard for some. :cry:

To me it seems btw that the more free flow the ref allowed, the more Ricky got hit, especially when he mauled Mayweather on the ropes. It was always Mayweather who ended Ricky's ineffective agression with a couple of well-timed, crisp counterpunches that were bang on target.

Not true. In fact Mayweather was knocked through the ropes at one point. And "free flow"? Give me af'ing break. The only time the crooked ref allowed free low was when Mayweather was doing his thing.
Knocked through the ropes, or pushed? And no, you're right, it wasn't free flow...Hatton tried to keep it as choppy and as ugly as possible. And yes, the only time it was free flow was when Mayweather was doing his thing, after Ricky was shown to be suspect against the stright right and left hook.

You are a sorry, sorry man. How long did you cry for this weekend?
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Post by Max Molyneux »

Some fans just can't get over Hatton.

Even before the fight, he was overrated like he was a god and some couldn't take someone saying some constructive criticism of him.
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Post by mattyp151 »

Max Molyneux wrote:Some fans just can't get over Hatton.

Even before the fight, he was overrated like he was a god and some couldn't take someone saying some constructive criticism of him.
The strengths were there, as were the weaknesses. It was a matter of what would win out. And as early as the first round, Hatton was already eating straight rights.
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