Corrie Sanders -How really good was he or could have been?

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I think the key words there are that Harry Wills had"fought the beast'
of his time,
something that Sanders wasn't able to do during his prime years since he was obviously being ducked.
Bigger ?Sander's was 6 ft 4 inches tall.
Boxrec Lists Harry Wills at 6 ft 2".
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Brutu wrote:I think the key words there are that Harry Wills had"fought the beast'
of his time,
something that Sanders wasn't able to do during his prime years since he was obviously being ducked.
Bigger ?Sander's was 6 ft 4 inches tall.
Boxrec Lists Harry Wills at 6 ft 2".
:TU:

Great post!

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Harry Wills would kick Corrie Sanders' ass.
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gilgamesh wrote:Harry Wills would kick Corrie Sanders' ass.
But only if Sanders had turned his back on him while bending over to tie a loose shoe-lace.
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Brutu wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Harry Wills would kick Corrie Sanders' ass.
But only if Sanders had turned his back on him while bending over to tie a loose shoe-lace.
But that would negate his 2 inch height advantage.
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There is no doubt in my mind He's right out of "On the waterfront"....."he coulda been a contender".

and.....that's just what he was.

The ol adage "It Is what it is" gets no better than this.
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I always get a laugh whenever I see that scene in that movie when Marlon Brando
slaps a hysterical Tami Maurello.
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I don't think it actually helped Corrie Sanders boxing reputation
that simutaneously during the 1990s there was another
heavyweight boxer named Corey Sanders from America,
who seemingly use to loose
about his every other fourth fight.
I know I was confused for some time, whever I read boxing results in the newspapers and thought it was Corrie Sanders who had lost.
That was before the inter-net when you could instantly check
up on up coming fights and results.
a lot of uninformed members of the public and im sure a lot of boxers,
their managers and trainers and fans
were confused too.
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If they confused him for a journeyman, why were they all avoiding him?
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Because they didn't want to take any chances?
You know how it is in boxing,just one loss and they never let you forget it.
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Brutu wrote:Because they didn't want to take any chances?
You know how it is in boxing,just one loss and they never let you forget it.
Corey Sanders was taking a chance?
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loaded_gloves wrote:
How terrified were his promoters of putting their chinny South African cash cow in with a ranked figher?
I think this a bit of a stretch.

Sanders had lots of faults, and you bring up some good points, but chinny???

Sure he got caught cold with a peach of a punch. Once. I suspect anybody would have suffered badly with that punch.

Plenty of rather good heavyweight champions throughout the ages suffered something similar.
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Perhaps this may be one of Sanders fights that the dissers put fourth as "evidence".
Corrie Sanders vrs Arthur Williams
February.7.1997 Las Vegas Nevada.
Sanders faces another southpaw.
I think this may have been Sanders HBO debut.
It was the preliminary to the rematch of Lennox Lewis vrs Oliver McCall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRPEUy98wiY
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Yeah,Corrie Sanders was good , real good.
Possibly one of the best natural boxers with an instinct for fighting as far as the big men go.
although he seemed to have passed over some fundemtals that may have improved his game though I think possibly.
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looks like many if not most of Corrie Sanders fights that were posted on youtube when this thread was first started
have since been removed from youtube due to presurre from the Sanders dissers who probably dont want the genral public to know
how good he really was.
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Re: Corrie Sanders vs Smokin Bert Cooper(June.26.1993)

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Brutu wrote:Here is Sanders vs Bobby Czyz for the WBU heavyweight title,June.12.1998.
Sanders ring record was 33-1-0(23 by KO) coming into this fight.
(Czyz retired from the ring after this fight.)
Sanders was going on 33 years old in this fight.
(unfortanetly the music over dubb here sounds as if someone just got done smoking a doobie)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTK5jESK20Q
Yeah, I remember Czyz claiming then that White Fighters didnt have no "Soul" (himself being the exception of course)
So I wonder how he felt afterward having been first embarressed and then knocked out by a

White "Soul" Brother No. 1 of HW Boxing " ? (i.e Corrie Sanders)
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Hey people,I was just watching some video's of Corrie Sanders boxing matches and at one point I thought of another earlier Heavyweight Champion
that his boxing style reminded me some of.What do you say ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opAJBr9G9MY
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Caractacus wrote:Hey people,I was just watching some video's of Corrie Sanders boxing matches and at one point I thought of another earlier Heavyweight Champion
that his boxing style reminded me some of.What do you say ?

Well, they both punched people in the face for a living. There's that at least.
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Re: Corrie Sanders vs Smokin Bert Cooper(June.26.1993)

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Caractacus wrote:
Brutu wrote:Here is Sanders vs Bobby Czyz for the WBU heavyweight title,June.12.1998.
Sanders ring record was 33-1-0(23 by KO) coming into this fight.
(Czyz retired from the ring after this fight.)
Sanders was going on 33 years old in this fight.
(unfortanetly the music over dubb here sounds as if someone just got done smoking a doobie)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTK5jESK20Q
Yeah, I remember Czyz claiming then that White Fighters didnt have no "Soul" (himself being the exception of course)
So I wonder how he felt afterward having been first embarressed and then knocked out by a

White "Soul" Brother No. 1 of HW Boxing " ? (i.e Corrie Sanders)
Sanders was 32 going into the fight. Czyz was 36, had not fought in two years and never beat a decent heavyweight. Not exactly a big win for Sanders.
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Caractacus wrote:looks like many if not most of Corrie Sanders fights that were posted on youtube when this thread was first started
have since been removed from youtube due to presurre from the Sanders dissers who probably dont want the genral public to know
how good he really was.


Please just 'come out' as Il Duce...but if your not, this post rivals any of the paranoid drivel he posted.
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Sanders was a unique type of talent. I can not think of one 6'4" man that had both better hand speed and better power. A southpaw with many early stoppages on his resume.

I think the sad part has Sanders lacked the promotional ties and American or UK-based trainer for a better career.
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What is the fascination with this guy?
He had limited talent. Fast hands? What is that all about?
He spent almost his whole career fighting tomato cans. He supposed to be a big puncher but his only notable ko was against W. Klitschko who had a glass jaw.
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Because he was Good, Dang Good (IMOP)but was never able to prove it in his prime.
He was supposed to fight Michael Moorer when Moorer became champion as his first title defense but his trainer chose
(probably unwisely) George Foreman.
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Ambling Alp II wrote:What is the fascination with this guy?
He had limited talent. Fast hands? What is that all about?
He spent almost his whole career fighting tomato cans. He supposed to be a big puncher but his only notable ko was against W. Klitschko who had a glass jaw.
Jesus what an asshole response lol.

You want to question his heart, the way he fought and died? Embarrassing.
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