Corrie Sanders -How really good was he or could have been?

[Brutu]

Here are some examples of his various fights.

This was 27 year old Sanders 19th professional fight.
Some pretty good action.
All 3 rounds.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q3ggEVEnCw

[yancey]

[quote="Brutu"]This was 27 year old Sanders 19th professional fight.
Some pretty good action.
All 3 rounds.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q3ggEVEnCw[/quote


Cooper walked away from it.

Did he do this in other fights?

(don't know much about Cooper....in 1993 I was paying very little attention to the boxing scene)

[dempseyfire]

This was 27 year old Sanders 19th professional fight.
Some pretty good action.
All 3 rounds.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q3ggEVEnCw[/quote


Cooper walked away from it.

Did he do this in other fights?
)

Yes he did. Cooper was an anomaly in that he could take tons of punishment and show real grit such as in his fights with Mercer, Moorer and Holyfield, and then quit like a dog, like he did vs Foreman, Williams and here vs Sanders. His addiction to cocaine I'm sure didn't help matters.

[Brutu]

IMOP Sanders was a better fighter then perhaps more well known Gerrie Coetzee in retrospect.
Coetzee was good,but appeared kind of slow (even tho fast for a Hwy)and clunky compared to Corrie Sanders.
Sanders fighting style sort of reminided me of that marvel comics character THE SILVER SURFER.
His punches flowed like some kind of cosmic energy.

[Brutu]

As far as I can tell this was Sanders first American television exposure.
According to the newspaper accounts the next day,the crowd at Merv Griffin's Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City,NJ
were,"Shocked"by the knock out.(even tho of course Cooper denied Sanders a clean KO or TKO by quitting in the middle of the round.)

[Goodnight, Irene]

IMOP Sanders was a better fighter then perhaps more well known Gerrie Coetzee in retrospect.
Coetzee was good,but appeared kind of slow (even tho fast for a Hwy)and clunky compared to Corrie Sanders.
Sanders fighting style sort of reminided me of that marvel comics character THE SILVER SURFER.
His punches flowed like some kind of cosmic energy.

...

Huh?

[Brutu]

I think I remember reading somewhere,that quoted Bert Cooper as saying that he had also previosly asked his corner to stop the fight with Nate Miller in between rounds,when Cooper was defending his NABF cruiserweight title in Philadelphia February 1989,four months before he quit against
George Foreman.
The fight with Nate Miller,Cooper said he felt too weak and had no stamina because he had to get down to 193 lbs for that fight.

[dempseyfire]

I would vehemently disagree Sanders was better than Coatzee. Coatzee had better overall skills, was a bigger man (Sanders was tall but had a small frame-in top condition he would've been around 210), was nearly as fast of hand, and had a better chin. Both had stamina issues but Corrie's were far worse.

Sanders was very much a one trick pony . . if he couldn't take you out early via his handspeed and southpaw stance, he was out of ideas and also tire out quickly. Hence this is why vs true world class comp he only had one victory, over Wladimir Klitschko.

[Brutu]

I dont know,Coetzee was able to get the opportunity to fight more top contenders and shots at a title then Sanders,as well as television exposure.
IMOP Sanders seems to have been avoided by many. to have been able to show his true ability for some reason or another until he was pushing 40 anyway.
Look at all the fights you have seen of Frans Botha on television/cable last 15 years compared to that of Corrie Sanders.
No doubt Botha having been managed by Don King's son had something to do with that.

[Brutu]

Here is Sanders vs Bobby Czyz for the WBU heavyweight title,June.12.1998.
Sanders ring record was 33-1-0(23 by KO) coming into this fight.
(Czyz retired from the ring after this fight.)
Sanders was going on 33 years old in this fight.
(unfortanetly the music over dubb here sounds as if someone just got done smoking a doobie)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTK5jESK20Q

[Brutu]

A prank phone call to Corrie Sanders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zOByhEi3UI

[Brutu]

Corrie Sanders was scheduled to fight Michael Grant,to have been broadcast on HBO ,January.13.2001,
but Sanders broke his leg in training in December 2000.
and the promtors of the fight substitute someone else Jameel McCline for the January 2001 HBO broadcast.

[Brutu]

in 1986 at age 20,Sanders was a reserve center on the North Transvaal rugby team in South Africa.
He could run the 100 meters in just under 11 seconds.

[Brutu]

Here is a bit of interesting trivia when you watch that fight.
Sanders and Cooper are only 3 days in age apart.

Corrie Sanders born January.7.1966.
Bert Cooper born January.10.1966.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Here is a bit of interesting trivia when you watch that fight.
Sanders and Cooper are only 3 days in age apart.

Corrie Sanders born January.7.1966.
Bert Cooper born January.10.1966.

Cooper also shares a birthday with his conqueror, George Foreman, & is only a few days (from memory) apart from his former trainer, Joe Frazier.

[Brutu]

Sanders vs Curtis Shepard
(who retired after this fight).
This was Sanders 30th professional fight-July.20.1997.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNYv-txDnR4

[Brutu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGnrg5hAHU0

[Brutu]

Hasim Rachman vs Corrie Sanders(May.20.2000)
(looks like the ref couldn't wait to get out the building fast enough)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGnrg5hAHU0

[Brutu]

Did Larry Merchant and Jim Lampley leave early?
were is the HBO commentary?
The audience sounds like the nose bleed seat section at Dodger stadium.

[Brutu]

I just felt like the fight was stopped way too early.
A couple of clubbing hands by Rachman,most missing.
Is it a crime to cover up on the ropes anymore?
compared to the clobbering Vitali Klitschko gave Sanders over many rounds ,Sanders took a very small fraction of punches before the ref stopped the fight in the Rachman bout.

[Brutu]

Hasim Rachman vs Corrie Sanders(may.20.2000)
(looks like the ref couldnt wait to get out the building fast enough)

Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGnrg5hAHU0

yo, bru ha-ha is this the fight you talked about a while where
something disgusting happened? i could have swore you mentioned
rahman was in a fight where something inexplicable happened
that you wouldn't elaborate on. i forget.

I dont know if I used the word disgusting,more like an "Ick" factor.
Rachman was one of those fighters were some weird sh*t seemed to happen whenever he stepped into the ring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk3YvELlo1A

[dempseyfire]

I just felt like the fight was stopped way too early.
A couple of clubbing hands by Rachman,most missing.
Is it a crime to cover up on the ropes anymore?
compared to the clobbering Vitali Klitschko gave Sanders over many rounds ,Sanders took a very small fraction of punches before the ref stopped the fight in the Rachman bout.

Rahman puts much more weight behind his shots than Vitali does. Sanders was completely gassed and getting nailed without firing back . . .he didn't complain about the stoppage.

[man]

I would vehemently disagree Sanders was better than Coatzee. Coatzee had better overall skills, was a bigger man (Sanders was tall but had a small frame-in top condition he would've been around 210), was nearly as fast of hand, and had a better chin. Both had stamina issues but Corrie's were far worse.

Sanders was very much a one trick pony . . if he couldn't take you out early via his handspeed and southpaw stance, he was out of ideas and also tire out quickly. Hence this is why vs true world class comp he only had one victory, over Wladimir Klitschko.

i felt like sanders gave vitali a hell of a fight for quite a while.
the only time vitali was in real trouble - aside of lewis of course.
sanders was probably in the end just lazy in his training regime.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I thought sanders landed an early left hand and then Vitali kicked the shit out of him. Vitali is an overrated puncher, that's why Corrie lasted as long as he did. But I don't recall that fight being remotely competitive or entertaining.

[man]

I thought sanders landed an early left hand and then Vitali kicked the shit out of him. Vitali is an overrated puncher, that's why Corrie lasted as long as he did. But I don't recall that fight being remotely competitive or entertaining.

watch it again. i remember i thought the same but then
looked at it again and actually had the feeling that vitali
had way more trouble than anyone would have expected.
and while it was a clear ko one could see vitali several
times in non too elegant backwards mode.