Spud Knows his stuff what has he done in boxing apart from pull smigga to bits intrested palchubs wrote:spud knows his stuff believe me as for joe gallagher having a lot to offer when it comes to conditioning a fighter how do you explain joe murray weighing in 4 pound overweight and then being stripped of his british titledaniel h wrote:spud some of your posts on here are absolute crap, how do you no his conditioning has come down to kerry, joe has alot to offer when it comes to conditioning his fighters, crolla has improved loads it shown last night when he took a very good boxer apart, he was punch perfect he was sharp and acurate with a better varity of punches now than he has ever had.Spud wrote: Another very predictable dig at a very good trainer.
Anthony Crolla produced an excellent performance. However, technically I do not think he has improved that much - where as his conditioning has improved massively - surely that comes down to the excellent advice given by Kerry Kayes rather than Joe Gallagher ?
Arnie Farnell - any good?
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chubs wrote:spud knows his stuff believe me as for joe gallagher having a lot to offer when it comes to conditioning a fighter how do you explain joe murray weighing in 4 pound overweight and then being stripped of his british titledaniel h wrote:spud some of your posts on here are absolute crap, how do you no his conditioning has come down to kerry, joe has alot to offer when it comes to conditioning his fighters, crolla has improved loads it shown last night when he took a very good boxer apart, he was punch perfect he was sharp and acurate with a better varity of punches now than he has ever had.Spud wrote: Another very predictable dig at a very good trainer.
Anthony Crolla produced an excellent performance. However, technically I do not think he has improved that much - where as his conditioning has improved massively - surely that comes down to the excellent advice given by Kerry Kayes rather than Joe Gallagher ?
John Murray actually.
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told you spud knows his stuffSpud wrote:chubs wrote:spud knows his stuff believe me as for joe gallagher having a lot to offer when it comes to conditioning a fighter how do you explain joe murray weighing in 4 pound overweight and then being stripped of his british titledaniel h wrote: spud some of your posts on here are absolute crap, how do you no his conditioning has come down to kerry, joe has alot to offer when it comes to conditioning his fighters, crolla has improved loads it shown last night when he took a very good boxer apart, he was punch perfect he was sharp and acurate with a better varity of punches now than he has ever had.![]()
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John Murray actually.
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it was 4 ounces not 4 pound big different chubbychubs wrote:told you spud knows his stuffSpud wrote:chubs wrote: spud knows his stuff believe me as for joe gallagher having a lot to offer when it comes to conditioning a fighter how do you explain joe murray weighing in 4 pound overweight and then being stripped of his british title![]()
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John Murray actually.
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no wonder he's called chubs
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i disagree with you mate i think anthony boxed better under farnellbeagleboy wrote:Anthony Crolla has certainly improved since jumping ship.
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i think crolla was superb in both the brodie and morris fights.
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Ask yourself if it was 4 ounces why did'nt john skip it off rather than be stripped of his title 
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regardless -right now joe is getting the results with his fighters. must be doing something right. his fighters have had some emphatic title wins in the past year or so, and 3 in the past 3 or 4 weeks.
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agreed some good wins in the last couple of months but daniel h was bigging joe up for the way he conditions his fighters if bringing your fighter way over the weight limit in a british title defence is whats required then joe's your manAutobarn wrote:regardless -right now joe is getting the results with his fighters. must be doing something right. his fighters have had some emphatic title wins in the past year or so, and 3 in the past 3 or 4 weeks.
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You obviously don't know the rules! he was late to the scales so had no time left to skip it off!!!chubs wrote:Ask yourself if it was 4 ounces why did'nt john skip it off rather than be stripped of his title
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They were late to the scales because john was in the steam room most of the day trying to get the weight off and thats the real reason why they were late no other reasontoomanyshots wrote:You obviously don't know the rules! he was late to the scales so had no time left to skip it off!!!chubs wrote:Ask yourself if it was 4 ounces why did'nt john skip it off rather than be stripped of his title
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listen chubby i dont need to harp on about how good joe gallagher is his results say it all joe isnt everyones cup of tea but he's fcuking good at his job, besides you already no that dont you cos you no so much about him and john murray, or is it joe murraychubs wrote:They were late to the scales because john was in the steam room most of the day trying to get the weight off and thats the real reason why they were late no other reasontoomanyshots wrote:You obviously don't know the rules! he was late to the scales so had no time left to skip it off!!!chubs wrote:Ask yourself if it was 4 ounces why did'nt john skip it off rather than be stripped of his title
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You have contradicted yourself, why say he should have skipped it off then! your not the brightest!!!chubs wrote:They were late to the scales because john was in the steam room most of the day trying to get the weight off and thats the real reason why they were late no other reasontoomanyshots wrote:You obviously don't know the rules! he was late to the scales so had no time left to skip it off!!!chubs wrote:Ask yourself if it was 4 ounces why did'nt john skip it off rather than be stripped of his title
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you seem to have it in for the man. around that time some of the best lightweights in the world came over the weight, and much more over the weight than murray.chubs wrote:agreed some good wins in the last couple of months but daniel h was bigging joe up for the way he conditions his fighters if bringing your fighter way over the weight limit in a british title defence is whats required then joe's your manAutobarn wrote:regardless -right now joe is getting the results with his fighters. must be doing something right. his fighters have had some emphatic title wins in the past year or so, and 3 in the past 3 or 4 weeks.
guzman, nate campbell, and so on.
we've seen murray and crolla in long, hard fights. their technical skills looked solid and they fought at a hard pace.
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where's the contradictiontoomanyshots wrote:You have contradicted yourself, why say he should have skipped it off then! your not the brightest!!!chubs wrote:They were late to the scales because john was in the steam room most of the day trying to get the weight off and thats the real reason why they were late no other reasontoomanyshots wrote: You obviously don't know the rules! he was late to the scales so had no time left to skip it off!!!
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You have asked why he did'nt skip it off but at the same time you knew he was too late to the scales to do anything ? the more you go on the more your justifying not being the brightestchubs wrote:where's the contradictiontoomanyshots wrote:You have contradicted yourself, why say he should have skipped it off then! your not the brightest!!!chubs wrote: They were late to the scales because john was in the steam room most of the day trying to get the weight off and thats the real reason why they were late no other reason
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i think what he ment is jonh couldn't get all the weight off it may have been 4oz on the scales but it was 4 pounds on the day he just couldn't get anymore off without feeling the effects!toomanyshots wrote:You have asked why he did'nt skip it off but at the same time you knew he was too late to the scales to do anything ? the more you go on the more your justifying not being the brightestchubs wrote:where's the contradictiontoomanyshots wrote: You have contradicted yourself, why say he should have skipped it off then! your not the brightest!!!
this thread should be done with now trying to slag a young up and coming trainer off who puts more hours in for his boxers than most in and out of the gym!
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john did arrive late to the scales he weighed in and was over they allowed him some time to lose the weight he went away but still could'nt make it so next time you call someone for not being bright take a long look at yourself SHIT FOR BRAINS :geek2:toomanyshots wrote:You have asked why he did'nt skip it off but at the same time you knew he was too late to the scales to do anything ? the more you go on the more your justifying not being the brightestchubs wrote:where's the contradictiontoomanyshots wrote: You have contradicted yourself, why say he should have skipped it off then! your not the brightest!!!
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Read this !!!chubs wrote:john did arrive late to the scales he weighed in and was over they allowed him some time to lose the weight he went away but still could'nt make it so next time you call someone for not being bright take a long look at yourself SHIT FOR BRAINS :geek2:toomanyshots wrote:You have asked why he did'nt skip it off but at the same time you knew he was too late to the scales to do anything ? the more you go on the more your justifying not being the brightestchubs wrote: where's the contradiction
http://www.saddoboxing.com/9982-murray- ... ights.html He had 2 minutes from stepping off the scales to get to the dressing room and get 4 oz off which is obviously not enough TIME!! the weigh was at 1pm he was 58 minutes late!!! So as I said 'he was too late to do anything' and did'nt have time to get the weight off as 2 mins was not enough! The board only gave him an hour from the agreed time of 1pm!
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It was unprofessional to come in overweight for a British title fight.
But at the end of the day, lessons got learned and everyone moves on.
Joe G doesn't cook every one of John's meals, there is an onus on the fighter to make the weight.
But at the end of the day, lessons got learned and everyone moves on.
Joe G doesn't cook every one of John's meals, there is an onus on the fighter to make the weight.
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considering i'm not the brightest as you say thanks for agreeing with eveything i pointed out in my last post SHIT FOR BRAINStoomanyshots wrote:Read this !!!chubs wrote:john did arrive late to the scales he weighed in and was over they allowed him some time to lose the weight he went away but still could'nt make it so next time you call someone for not being bright take a long look at yourself SHIT FOR BRAINS :geek2:toomanyshots wrote: You have asked why he did'nt skip it off but at the same time you knew he was too late to the scales to do anything ? the more you go on the more your justifying not being the brightest
http://www.saddoboxing.com/9982-murray- ... ights.html He had 2 minutes from stepping off the scales to get to the dressing room and get 4 oz off which is obviously not enough TIME!! the weigh was at 1pm he was 58 minutes late!!! So as I said 'he was too late to do anything' and did'nt have time to get the weight off as 2 mins was not enough! The board only gave him an hour from the agreed time of 1pm!
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Do you want some help with your spelling?chubs wrote:considering i'm not the brightest as you say thanks for agreeing with eveything i pointed out in my last post SHIT FOR BRAINStoomanyshots wrote:Read this !!!chubs wrote: john did arrive late to the scales he weighed in and was over they allowed him some time to lose the weight he went away but still could'nt make it so next time you call someone for not being bright take a long look at yourself SHIT FOR BRAINS :geek2:
http://www.saddoboxing.com/9982-murray- ... ights.html He had 2 minutes from stepping off the scales to get to the dressing room and get 4 oz off which is obviously not enough TIME!! the weigh was at 1pm he was 58 minutes late!!! So as I said 'he was too late to do anything' and did'nt have time to get the weight off as 2 mins was not enough! The board only gave him an hour from the agreed time of 1pm!
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I agree with you Gomez its very unprofessional to be overweight for any title fight,scales are at the weigh in usally 1 hour before the weigh starts for a test weigh in,so john must have been a good bit over which surprises me as fighters get there weight checked by stewards for weeks leading up to fights and need to be within a certain percentage of there fighting weight at all times.G0mez wrote:It was unprofessional to come in overweight for a British title fight.
But at the end of the day, lessons got learned and everyone moves on.
Joe G doesn't cook every one of John's meals, there is an onus on the fighter to make the weight.