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I think the jealousy of some people on here towards Calzaghe is out of control

Froch deserves ultimate respect, he has shot for glory throught his career and ducked no one. He has fought at the elite level for years, back to back fights against the best the sport has to offer. Anybody anywhere anytime - have we ever seen the likes before from a British fighter? He has blazed a trail that all upcoming British fighters should be trying to emulate.

Froch righted Calzaghes wrongs. Calzaghe and Fwank created an era of ducking and dodging that still makes me cringe to this day. For such a talented fighter Calzaghes career was a bit of a joke. Who cares if he beat an old Hopkins and a shot to pieces Jones. Had he fought them in their prime he would have lost to both - no doubt about it.

Other than Kessler who else is on his record that stands it up against Froch's?

ALI wrote:Froch deserves ultimate respect, he has shot for glory throught his career and ducked no one. He has fought at the elite level for years, back to back fights against the best the sport has to offer. Anybody anywhere anytime - have we ever seen the likes before from a British fighter? He has blazed a trail that all upcoming British fighters should be trying to emulate.

Froch righted Calzaghes wrongs. Calzaghe and Fwank created an era of ducking and dodging that still makes me cringe to this day. For such a talented fighter Calzaghes career was a bit of a joke. Who cares if he beat an old Hopkins and a shot to pieces Jones. Had he fought them in their prime he would have lost to both - no doubt about it.

Other than Kessler who else is on his record that stands it up against Froch's?

Is this a joke? I feel like I'm posting the same list of names over and over again, but here goes, hopefully for the final time, Eubank, Reid, Woodhall, Brewer, Mitchell, Lacy and Bika, to go with Kessler and the 'old' Hopkins, who's still world champion 6 years later.

expe wrote: Is this a joke? I feel like I'm posting the same list of names over and over again, but here goes, hopefully for the final time, Eubank, Reid, Woodhall, Brewer, Mitchell, Lacy and Bika, to go with Kessler and the 'old' Hopkins, who's still world champion 6 years later.

How old are you Expe ?

G0mez wrote:

expe wrote: Is this a joke? I feel like I'm posting the same list of names over and over again, but here goes, hopefully for the final time, Eubank, Reid, Woodhall, Brewer, Mitchell, Lacy and Bika, to go with Kessler and the 'old' Hopkins, who's still world champion 6 years later.

How old are you Expe ?

Not old enough to have seen, but he is right though, Calzaghe has fought and beat lot of champions, Bika and Hopkins are World champions, now ! Kessler is still world class, now !

Bit of an exaggerated topic title, this one. It would be appropriate if Joe got caught pissed up outside Carl's house, throwing bricks through his windows, taking a dump on his lawn, and screaming out that Carl has ruined Joe's legacy. That would be out of control

Anzi wrote:
How old are you Expe ?

Not old enough to have seen, but he is right though, [/quote]

I'm sorry, are you grooming Expe ? How would you know how old he is.

I recall him saying he was 17 , so he might not have even been born when Joe fought a stand-in Eubank who was contesting the 50th fight of a 52 fight career on the undercard of an undercard in Sheffield.

It was a bout to pad out the show, not a headliner of any sort against a badly faded Eubank at the tail end of his career.

Now it's been elevated into an epic win. The trend is happening with Roy Jones too. He's not a shot fighter, but an all-time American great.

The reality is all of this debate has only touched on whom he actually fought.

The topic could span another twenty pages as to whom he DIDNT fight.

G0mez wrote:

Anzi wrote:
How old are you Expe ?

Not old enough to have seen, but he is right though,

I'm sorry, are you grooming Expe ? How would you know how old he is.

I recall him saying he was 17 , so he might not have even been born when Joe fought a stand-in Eubank who was contesting the 50th fight of a 52 fight career on the undercard of an undercard in Sheffield.

It was a bout to pad out the show, not a headliner of any sort against a badly faded Eubank at the tail end of his career.

Now it's been elevated into an epic win. The trend is happening with Roy Jones too. He's not a shot fighter, but an all-time American great.

The reality is all of this debate has only touched on whom he actually fought.

The topic could span another twenty pages as to whom he DIDNT fight.[/quote]
enough is enough,please move on,how about this,who'd win between a peak Tyson and a peak Lewis lol

bigjack wrote: enough is enough,please move on,how about this,who'd win between a peak Tyson and a peak Lewis lol

Joe says he's better than Lennox Lewis



http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/i-am-th ... 52495.html

JimJim2009 wrote:Bit of an exaggerated topic title, this one. It would be appropriate if Joe got caught pissed up outside Carl's house, throwing bricks through his windows, taking a dump on his lawn, and screaming out that Carl has ruined Joe's legacy. That would be out of control

G0mez wrote:

Anzi wrote:
How old are you Expe ?

Not old enough to have seen, but he is right though,

I'm sorry, are you grooming Expe ? How would you know how old he is.

I recall him saying he was 17 , so he might not have even been born when Joe fought a stand-in Eubank who was contesting the 50th fight of a 52 fight career on the undercard of an undercard in Sheffield.

It was a bout to pad out the show, not a headliner of any sort against a badly faded Eubank at the tail end of his career.

Now it's been elevated into an epic win. The trend is happening with Roy Jones too. He's not a shot fighter, but an all-time American great.

The reality is all of this debate has only touched on whom he actually fought.

The topic could span another twenty pages as to whom he DIDNT fight.[/quote]Someone mentioned his age, he did not, as far as I know, claim it was false.

Richard the secret Williams

I blame George groves

Now please, pretty please with a fat cherry on top. Can someone close this thread?

Thanks

Calzaghe's been talking again http://www.BS.com/calzaghe-fro ... ine--78762

Froch himself admitted he would not have beaten JC on points so he would have had to stop him . Calzaghe on points for me

when Calzaghe boxed you knew you were watching one of the all time greats. The end.

n1ebf wrote:when Calzaghe boxed you knew you were watching one of the all time greats. The end.

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dragons wrote:

n1ebf wrote:when Calzaghe boxed you knew you were watching one of the all time greats. The end.

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I always thought i was watching wasted talent.

ALI wrote:

dragons wrote:

n1ebf wrote:when Calzaghe boxed you knew you were watching one of the all time greats. The end.

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I always thought i was watching wasted talent.

Hardly! Like I said he effectively never avoided anyone at supermiddle. And he battled through long periods of chronic hand injuries without having to retire prematurely.

Hardly! Like I said he effectively never avoided anyone at supermiddle. And he battled through long periods of chronic hand injuries without having to retire prematurely.

Get your head out the cornflakes. Who gives a monkeys as to why certain fights never happened, thats all done and dusted now, all that remains is the knowlege that he could have done so much more with his career.

G0mez wrote:

bigjack wrote: enough is enough,please move on,how about this,who'd win between a peak Tyson and a peak Lewis lol

Joe says he's better than Lennox Lewis



http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/i-am-th ... 52495.html

That article is from 2003 but interesting comment by Calzaghe about Roy Jones

"I could probably give Jones a tough fight, probably the best fight he's ever had," said Calzaghe. "But I know my capabilities and unless I got paid the crown jewels I wouldn't want to risk it."

It's practically impossible not to be a Carl Froch fan. Look at the action he's given us over the past few years. He is so good for boxing. Calzaghe beats him though, Joe was quicker and more versatile. It's a shame the fight didn't happen when Carl was calling him out, it would have been a good one, ending up (in my opinion) with Joe taking it on points.

mickey1975 wrote:Despite the fact Froch clearly is ducking Ward?

Clearly ducking Ward? It's not his fault if the fight's worth f**k all compared to others.

Ward should show a bit of willingness to prove he can fight away from home, like proper champions do. It would surely be a career best earn for him, and a chance to box in front of a lot more people than their first meeting, which was a poxy, boring fight and a complete anti-climax to an otherwise fairly exciting tournament.

Ward is good at winning fights, but just like Hopkins and the Younger Klit, he's fking boring.

I'd like to see Groves v DeGale support Froch v Ward at Wembley. Hearn could sell that easy - he could sell dogshite to a dog.

Look, I gave up criticising Froch a couple of weeks ago... The truth is though, he doesn't want to avenge the Ward defeat. You're right though, who would?

Dan Dares wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:Despite the fact Froch clearly is ducking Ward?

Clearly ducking Ward? It's not his fault if the fight's worth f**k all compared to others.

Ward should show a bit of willingness to prove he can fight away from home, like proper champions do. It would surely be a career best earn for him, and a chance to box in front of a lot more people than their first meeting, which was a poxy, boring fight and a complete anti-climax to an otherwise fairly exciting tournament.

Ward is good at winning fights, but just like Hopkins and the Younger Klit, he's fking boring.

I'd like to see Groves v DeGale support Froch v Ward at Wembley. Hearn could sell that easy - he could sell dogshite to a dog.

Can't see how Ward is a less valuable fight that Chavez, particularly Chavez after his last two fights. The difference is that it's less winnable.

Bums on seats, Chavez brings untold Mexicans to the party, Ward will struggle to bring his mum and dad!