The £73k in unpaid management fees are his damages for breach of contract (as decided last month) - as Parsons Cross above says yesterday was just an order on both sides' costs. In large cases like this the sides' legal costs are often decided in a separate hearing from the main matter.expe wrote: Thought it was £100k solicitors fees + £70k damages from yesterday, plus the £73k in unpaid management fees from last month?
Allegedly wins latest court battle against Burns
Re: Allegedly wins latest court battle against Burns
Re: Allegedly wins latest court battle against Burns
If I were Burns and providing he isn't locked into a contract with matchroom, I would be contacting FW cap in hand and apologetic, asking if there were some type of agreement they could come to if he was willing to sign him again.
People give FW a lot of stick but fighters also need to remember the grass isnt always greener, FW protected Burns and did some fantastic match making for him.
Hearn on the other hand stuck Burns in with Terrence (turns out he's awesome) Crawford, even after seeing him struggle with lower level fighters, and from what i hear are now looking to stick him in with someone else he is unlikely to beat.
People give FW a lot of stick but fighters also need to remember the grass isnt always greener, FW protected Burns and did some fantastic match making for him.
Hearn on the other hand stuck Burns in with Terrence (turns out he's awesome) Crawford, even after seeing him struggle with lower level fighters, and from what i hear are now looking to stick him in with someone else he is unlikely to beat.
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mickey1975
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Re: Allegedly wins latest court battle against Burns
Why would Fwank want him back? He's been beaten twice, arguably three times, and knocked from pillar to post in his only successful defence! His last bout was on an undercard in Leeds. Fwank can point at Burns as an example of how the grass isn't always greener.Finn wrote:If I were Burns and providing he isn't locked into a contract with matchroom, I would be contacting FW cap in hand and apologetic, asking if there were some type of agreement they could come to if he was willing to sign him again.
People give FW a lot of stick but fighters also need to remember the grass isnt always greener, FW protected Burns and did some fantastic match making for him.
Hearn on the other hand stuck Burns in with Terrence (turns out he's awesome) Crawford, even after seeing him struggle with lower level fighters, and from what i hear are now looking to stick him in with someone else he is unlikely to beat.
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That's a good point mickey but the grass must have been in pretty poor condition on the Warren side of the fence for Burns to even consider a move.
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mickey1975
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Re: Allegedly wins latest court battle against Burns
The grass has been paved now though on the other side. And he's paying for new turf on the old one...palooka wrote:That's a good point mickey but the grass must have been in pretty poor condition on the Warren side of the fence for Burns to even consider a move.
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Yeah, it's a real shame; Ricky was an overachiever and seems a great fellow. If someone is boxing, headlining as a world champion they ought to get paid. If looks like his career is done and he's up the creek.mickey1975 wrote:The grass has been paved now though on the other side. And he's paying for new turf on the old one...palooka wrote:That's a good point mickey but the grass must have been in pretty poor condition on the Warren side of the fence for Burns to even consider a move.
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Parson Cross
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Re: Allegedly wins latest court battle against Burns
Finn,
You clearly dont know Wazza !
I can imagine the tears running down his face with laughter if anyone rang him on behalf of Burns.
You clearly dont know Wazza !
I can imagine the tears running down his face with laughter if anyone rang him on behalf of Burns.
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He should get you as a character witness next time he's in court.Parson Cross wrote:Finn,
You clearly dont know Wazza !
I can imagine the tears running down his face with laughter if anyone rang him on behalf of Burns.
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Parson Cross
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Re: Allegedly wins latest court battle against Burns
Palooka,
Really ? Why would you say that ?
Even more tears.
That would go down like a lead balloon.
Really ? Why would you say that ?
Even more tears.
That would go down like a lead balloon.
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You put his character across in just a few words, he doesn't seem as though he has the milk of human kindness.
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Parson Cross
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Aaaaah I thought you meant character witness for Burns.
Me n Wazza get on really well - honest :(
Me n Wazza get on really well - honest :(
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I don't know all in the ins and outs.
But . . why do boxers not seek out other succesful ex pro boxers
For.advice re money etc ?
Ex pro.boxers who I don't know but will reference seem to have done ok with their
Money earnt.and not blown it irrespective of the amount its relative.
Nigel benn frank Bruno barry mcguigan Herbie hide Joe calzaghe naseem hamed
In life never put all your eggs in one basket and always seek impartial advice.
If ain't broke don't fix it and don t bite the hand that feeds you. .
If I was a pro.boxer and I was doing well financially so long as I was earning decent purses good luck to the promoters. When you get to a level where you can self promote that another story.
But . . why do boxers not seek out other succesful ex pro boxers
For.advice re money etc ?
Ex pro.boxers who I don't know but will reference seem to have done ok with their
Money earnt.and not blown it irrespective of the amount its relative.
Nigel benn frank Bruno barry mcguigan Herbie hide Joe calzaghe naseem hamed
In life never put all your eggs in one basket and always seek impartial advice.
If ain't broke don't fix it and don t bite the hand that feeds you. .
If I was a pro.boxer and I was doing well financially so long as I was earning decent purses good luck to the promoters. When you get to a level where you can self promote that another story.
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handsofstone
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Re: Allegedly wins latest court battle against Burns
George Groves seemed to have the right idea not getting bogged down to 1 promoter before Sauerland and luckily he's talented enough to have a bit of leverage when it came to fighting on shows with different promoters,the 1 problem with that is that you can lose focus,which is what some people felt was Audley's problem,not everyone can have that luxury though especially at the beginning of their careers
So yeah i blame George Groves
So yeah i blame George Groves
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Parson Cross
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Re: Allegedly wins latest court battle against Burns
Mikiesb
Some strange examples there mate. Bruno is skint, Barry went bankrupt Calzaghe lost millions with the Hopkins affair etc etc etc.
Some strange examples there mate. Bruno is skint, Barry went bankrupt Calzaghe lost millions with the Hopkins affair etc etc etc.
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handsofstone
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Re: Allegedly wins latest court battle against Burns
What about Hide whats he been up to?Parson Cross wrote:Mikiesb
Some strange examples there mate. Bruno is skint, Barry went bankrupt Calzaghe lost millions with the Hopkins affair etc etc etc.
Re: Allegedly wins latest court battle against Burns
Didn't he get fitted up by the fake Sheik? I thought all of those cases were being referred to an appeal court?handsofstone wrote:What about Hide whats he been up to?Parson Cross wrote:Mikiesb
Some strange examples there mate. Bruno is skint, Barry went bankrupt Calzaghe lost millions with the Hopkins affair etc etc etc.
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SMALL AXE1
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Re: Allegedly wins latest court battle against Burns
Hearns should pay this. Will he? No.thepocketrocket wrote:If Matchroom gave Ricky awful advice, Matchroom should be paying the bill.
Sadly they won't as Hearn, despite the nice suit is like any other promoter. All these mongs who are on 'Team Hearn' on twitter need to realise that! Business is business to everyone.
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It appears Hearn and Matchroom really did tap him up with some dodgy advice. I'd like to hear what Burns has to say about this.
Come on Kugan, get your finger out.
Come on Kugan, get your finger out.
Re: Allegedly wins latest court battle against Burns
handsofstone wrote:What about Hide whats he been up to?Parson Cross wrote:Mikiesb
Some strange examples there mate. Bruno is skint, Barry went bankrupt Calzaghe lost millions with the Hopkins affair etc etc etc.
Calzaghe didn't lose millions with the hopkins fight. To lose "millions" you have to get paid it first! Bet no one can guess who promoted that fight.......
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Black Sam Bellamy
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Re: Allegedly wins latest court battle against Burns
Rio, Calzaghe had already left FW by the time of the Hopkins fight.
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Youre wrong. I think you mean the Roy Jones jnr fight.Black Sam Bellamy wrote:Rio, Calzaghe had already left FW by the time of the Hopkins fight.

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It looks like Joe had been using 'Just For Men' hair paint.
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Hi ok a rethink. Joe calzaghe went on and self promoted and has done well
Barry mcguigan has business interests outside Boxing.
Lennox lewis naseem hamed and Ricky hatton all got promoted to world title shots
Then promoted themselves and have done well.
Mentioned before herbie invested his money wisely after riddick bowe fight and spoke well.of barry hearn in his autobiography.
One the smartest boxers is henry maske invested money in McDonalds franchises across
Germany.
Think all.of the above is right . .
Boxers and promoters both deserve to do well if both parties have done their bit
Barry mcguigan has business interests outside Boxing.
Lennox lewis naseem hamed and Ricky hatton all got promoted to world title shots
Then promoted themselves and have done well.
Mentioned before herbie invested his money wisely after riddick bowe fight and spoke well.of barry hearn in his autobiography.
One the smartest boxers is henry maske invested money in McDonalds franchises across
Germany.
Think all.of the above is right . .
Boxers and promoters both deserve to do well if both parties have done their bit
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JimJim2009
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Re: Allegedly wins latest court battle against Burns
Parson some folk have speculated joe got paid in the end, citing him and fwank being amicable at ringside last year. I am doubtful but presumably something must have soothed the pain of such a big loss. Do you think he coughed up ? Just curious....Parson Cross wrote:Mikiesb
Some strange examples there mate. Bruno is skint, Barry went bankrupt Calzaghe lost millions with the Hopkins affair etc etc etc.
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Parson Cross
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Re: Allegedly wins latest court battle against Burns
Legally binding confidentiality agreement signed.
Draw your own conclusions.
Draw your own conclusions.