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Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 04:50
by Wales
high tower 1 wrote: 29 Jul 2021, 08:46
ERIC GUY wrote: 29 Jul 2021, 08:02 i met charlie a few times, nice guy, and a few others of them times,, I enjoyed the company, i never listen to them old stories, i judge by who i met,

A heart of gold
Heart of gold going a bit far. Didn’t he Torture and murdered a fair few people . Sure people would see it differently if it was their dad who had his fingernails ripped off, toes chopped with bolt cutters before being nailed to the floor

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 04:59
by high tower 1
Wales wrote: 31 Jul 2021, 04:50
high tower 1 wrote: 29 Jul 2021, 08:46
ERIC GUY wrote: 29 Jul 2021, 08:02 i met charlie a few times, nice guy, and a few others of them times,, I enjoyed the company, i never listen to them old stories, i judge by who i met,

A heart of gold
Heart of gold going a bit far. Didn’t he Torture and murdered a fair few people . Sure people would see it differently if it was their dad who had his fingernails ripped off, toes chopped with bolt cutters before being nailed to the floor
He helped Nans cross the street.

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 05:06
by Wales
high tower 1 wrote: 31 Jul 2021, 04:59
Wales wrote: 31 Jul 2021, 04:50
high tower 1 wrote: 29 Jul 2021, 08:46


A heart of gold
Heart of gold going a bit far. Didn’t he Torture and murdered a fair few people . Sure people would see it differently if it was their dad who had his fingernails ripped off, toes chopped with bolt cutters before being nailed to the floor
He helped Nans cross the street.
Yeah, when people were looking, then I bet soon as your backs turned he chopped off one of old Missus Badcrumbles toes and stole her half made knitted scarecrow.

Love the old “I met Charlie Bronson / kray / Frankie Fraser , nicest guy you could ever come across” brigade

Just because they said hello and didn’t chop your cock off .

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 05:12
by chiggsy
high tower 1 wrote: 31 Jul 2021, 04:59
Wales wrote: 31 Jul 2021, 04:50
high tower 1 wrote: 29 Jul 2021, 08:46


A heart of gold
Heart of gold going a bit far. Didn’t he Torture and murdered a fair few people . Sure people would see it differently if it was their dad who had his fingernails ripped off, toes chopped with bolt cutters before being nailed to the floor
He helped Nans cross the street.
You could leave your door open

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 05:20
by Wales
Was only ever out the soup kitchen to give malnourished stray dogs a hearty meal

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 05:20
by orbtastic
Different times. They only went after criminals. Women and children was safe (sic)

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 05:41
by Wales
orbtastic wrote: 31 Jul 2021, 05:20 Different times. They only went after criminals. Women and children was safe (sic)
No innocent victims when it comes to armed robbery, murder, protection rackets, arson, torture etc…

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 05:58
by chiggsy
They only bummed their own

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 05:59
by orbtastic
Wales wrote: 31 Jul 2021, 05:41
orbtastic wrote: 31 Jul 2021, 05:20 Different times. They only went after criminals. Women and children was safe (sic)
No innocent victims when it comes to armed robbery, murder, protection rackets, arson, torture etc…
That’s why I used sic

It’s the nonsense these apologists trot out and have done for decades.

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 06:13
by Wales
Remember the photo of Bruno visiting Broadnoor and having a brew with the Yorkshire ripper .

“Had a coffee with Peter Sutcliffe. Nice guy. Speak as you find. Never did anything to me”

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 06:14
by Wales

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 08:15
by Stevieaber
It looks like John Ryder with Big Frank and Saville.

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 08:26
by high tower 1
What was Bruno thinking ! Must have been taken by surprise.

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 08:29
by high tower 1
Wales wrote: 31 Jul 2021, 05:41
orbtastic wrote: 31 Jul 2021, 05:20 Different times. They only went after criminals. Women and children was safe (sic)
No innocent victims when it comes to armed robbery, murder, protection rackets, arson, torture etc…
I’m only played about btw they were all scum. Any one who idolises them is about 15 or needs their heads checked.

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 08:33
by Wales
The “how would Lenny McLean and Roy Shaw do as a pro” brigade

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 08:52
by HomicideHenry
Wales wrote: 31 Jul 2021, 08:33 The “how would Lenny McLean and Roy Shaw do as a pro” brigade
If I'm not mistaken Shaw was a boxer in his youth. Lenny was largely an illusion. He may very well have been the toughest door man in all of England, but it's a well-known fact that these fights being billed as matches to the death were largely fixed or were guys who were damaged goods in some way.

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 08:57
by Wales
Yeah , don’t doubt both would have a go

But the mystique either were more than rough guys is crazy

I think Bobby Gunn, who Enzo smoked in a round, is one of the top unlicensed/ Bare knuckle guys on the scene now

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 09:10
by high tower 1
Lenny was franks cousin. Frank came out to saw he couldn’t stand him and that he was useless.

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 09:14
by Wales
Useless a bit strong

But yeah - relatively speaking

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 09:15
by Wales
high tower 1 wrote: 31 Jul 2021, 09:10 Lenny was franks cousin. Frank came out to saw he couldn’t stand him and that he was useless.

I bet Lenny absolutely terrorised Frank

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 09:38
by HomicideHenry
Wales wrote: 31 Jul 2021, 08:57 Yeah , don’t doubt both would have a go

But the mystique either were more than rough guys is crazy

I think Bobby Gunn, who Enzo smoked in a round, is one of the top unlicensed/ Bare knuckle guys on the scene now
The BKB scene has changed a lot over the past few years. The Gunn's, McDonagh's, etc--- have all been replaced by more respectable and younger athletes as evident in organizations like BKFC featuring competitors from the MMA and gloved boxing world.

That being said, the best of the hardmen (strictly bareknuckle) I'd venture to say are Paddy Jaws Ward and Davey Joyce. Then again they had amateur boxing pedigrees to begin with. But they belong to no organization, just straight up mixers wherever they can be staged.

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 09:40
by HomicideHenry
high tower 1 wrote: 31 Jul 2021, 09:10 Lenny was franks cousin. Frank came out to saw he couldn’t stand him and that he was useless.
I think it was more than that. Because when Frank used to be on this website he basically said he started out his promotional career in the unlicensed circuit and Lenny was the main attraction. And to his own admission a lot of his fights were fixed.

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 10:12
by high tower 1
Wales wrote: 31 Jul 2021, 09:15
high tower 1 wrote: 31 Jul 2021, 09:10 Lenny was franks cousin. Frank came out to saw he couldn’t stand him and that he was useless.

I bet Lenny absolutely terrorised Frank
Can’t see anyone terrorising frank. He’s too belligerent and stubborn.

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 10:44
by Wales
If ever there was a male with “resting bitch face” it’s Frank

If there was a fire in the waxwork museum his would t need replacing

Re: The Krays and boxing

Posted: 31 Jul 2021, 11:16
by Cyclops
Old bones Ian wrote: 30 Jul 2021, 02:38 They wrote their own book :D

The reviews for that are well funny!

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