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Lackeos wrote:Several people on boxrec seemed to give Golovkin round 1, but that was a very, very clear round for Alvarez. It's pretty weird that these people are claiming Golovkin got robbed when they are robbing Alvarez of a super obvious round on their own scorecards.

I personally had it for Golovkin too, i gave rounds 2 and 12 clearly for Canelo, and round 11 could go either way but i gave it to Canelo. why in your opinion round 1 was clearly won by Canelo?

JoeCorrao wrote:

crusader wrote:Moderately bad robbery IMO

I'd say Whitaker/Chavez level robbery

I disagree. It was a similar type of robbery but not as egregious. JCC was not as competitive with Sweet Pea as GingerHead was last night.

I would say it compares more closely with Hagler v SRL, although this was worse than that one.

Poll here for who you thought won:

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 9&start=50

Tanzio wrote:

crusader wrote:Moderately bad robbery IMO

Yep. I am not quick to claim a robbery. This was very similar but not as egregious as Sweet Pea v JCC.

None of these are egregious robberies. No hallacuous shots landed, no knockdowns, nobody ever hurt or stunned. Some judges like pressure regardless of how ineffective while others like movement and flashy crap of equal ineffectiveness

Just watched rounds 1 and 10 again, round 1 belongs to Canelo imo and 10 could be scored for him too without biasness (was close)

At the time I scored 2,3,11 & 12 for Canelo without hesitation (however I haven't re-watched yet), therefore I don't think a draw could be considered a robbery.

I don't think you can score the fight for Canelo though as the other 6 rounds were far more one sided.

Luckybattles wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

crusader wrote:Moderately bad robbery IMO

Yep. I am not quick to claim a robbery. This was very similar but not as egregious as Sweet Pea v JCC.

None of these are egregious robberies. No hallacuous shots landed, no knockdowns, nobody ever hurt or stunned. Some judges like pressure regardless of how ineffective while others like movement and flashy crap of equal ineffectiveness

no hellacious punches, no knockdowns, nobody ever hurt or stunned in Mayweather-Alvarez fight, was it close too?

RScarf1 wrote:Anyone who scored GGG vs. Canelo as a draw or in favor of Canelo is an idiot and/or corrupt, so two of the judges were as well as any media who scored it this way.

Any one imo who thinks that about scoring the fight a draw is either an idiot or really believed that ggg would win the fight easily

samdance wrote:

RScarf1 wrote:Anyone who scored GGG vs. Canelo as a draw or in favor of Canelo is an idiot and/or corrupt, so two of the judges were as well as any media who scored it this way.

Any one imo who thinks that about scoring the fight a draw is either an idiot or really believed that ggg would win the fight easily

maybe Golovkin don't won easily, but for sure he won clearly/

samdance wrote:

RScarf1 wrote:Anyone who scored GGG vs. Canelo as a draw or in favor of Canelo is an idiot and/or corrupt, so two of the judges were as well as any media who scored it this way.

Any one imo who thinks that about scoring the fight a draw is either an idiot or really believed that ggg would win the fight easily

Didn't you start a thread here about how you couldn't see how it was going to be anything other than a Canelo win?

dagilechia wrote:

samdance wrote:

RScarf1 wrote:Anyone who scored GGG vs. Canelo as a draw or in favor of Canelo is an idiot and/or corrupt, so two of the judges were as well as any media who scored it this way.

Any one imo who thinks that about scoring the fight a draw is either an idiot or really believed that ggg would win the fight easily

maybe Golovkin don't won easily, but for sure he won clearly/

Re-watch rounds 1 to 3 and 10 to 12 I think they can be scored for Canelo

Canelo just needs another 10,000 hours of practice!

crusader wrote:

samdance wrote:

RScarf1 wrote:Anyone who scored GGG vs. Canelo as a draw or in favor of Canelo is an idiot and/or corrupt, so two of the judges were as well as any media who scored it this way.

Any one imo who thinks that about scoring the fight a draw is either an idiot or really believed that ggg would win the fight easily

Didn't you start a thread here about how you couldn't see how it was going to be anything other than a Canelo win?

I think the thread was an effort to convince me not to throw lots of money on Canelo, however I have also stated that I was going back and forth on this fight.

samdance wrote:

dagilechia wrote:

samdance wrote:
Any one imo who thinks that about scoring the fight a draw is either an idiot or really believed that ggg would win the fight easily

maybe Golovkin don't won easily, but for sure he won clearly/

Re-watch rounds 1 to 3 and 10 to 12 I think they can be scored for Canelo

I did and I had 2, 11 and 12 for Canelo. 1 and 3 were pretty close but still GGG got the nod in them.

Not rewatched but i think i had Canelo 1, 2 & 3.

From rounds 4-10 he was on his bike, he couldn't hang with the stronger Ggg. Although, Canelo landed the more eye catching shots.

Canelo needed a KO to win but he took rounds 11 & 12 i thought, tightening the cards to 7-5.

dagilechia wrote:

samdance wrote:

dagilechia wrote: maybe Golovkin don't won easily, but for sure he won clearly/

Re-watch rounds 1 to 3 and 10 to 12 I think they can be scored for Canelo

I did and I had 2, 11 and 12 for Canelo

I agree that a draw is generous to Canelo but not a terrible scorecard

This whole routine of watching a robbery, and then getting on Boxing forums to complain about it is getting damn old. I'm beginning to care about the sport less and less. Didn't previously think that was possible, but in a year where 2 of my favorite fighters have been f*cked over by corruption 3 times in one 12 month period, it's getting to be a bit much to take.

dagilechia wrote:

Lackeos wrote:Several people on boxrec seemed to give Golovkin round 1, but that was a very, very clear round for Alvarez. It's pretty weird that these people are claiming Golovkin got robbed when they are robbing Alvarez of a super obvious round on their own scorecards.

I personally had it for Golovkin too, i gave rounds 2 and 12 clearly for Canelo, and round 11 could go either way but i gave it to Canelo. why in your opinion round 1 was clearly won by Canelo?

First 2:20 of the round, they were about even on damage. Last 40 seconds, Alvarez clearly did more damage. Golovkin's jab was super soft in round 1, and the small number of jabs he landed did 0 damage. Alvarez landed more power punches, and his power punches seemed to be heavier also.

Damage? Was GGG hurt or something?

By the way, why is nobody talking about Trella giving round 7 to Canelo when even Byrd gave it to GGG ? The guy clearly tries to enter Vegas "elite" judges club.

ya ...7th was very clear GGG

crusader wrote:ya ...7th was very clear GGG

And that one round on his card would change the outcome of the fight.

boxing_rocks wrote:By the way, why is nobody talking about Trella giving round 7 to Canelo when even Byrd gave it to GGG ? The guy clearly tries to enter Vegas "elite" judges club.

yeah I mentioned it before in 2 topics, if not that GGG would won that fight

Tanzio wrote:SOGgy remains P4P #1.

He's in the conversation for sure. Don't think there's been a true 1 since Pacquaio and Mayweather

It was pretty poor. 8-4 golovkin and I struggle to give Canelo anymore than 4. I actually scored it 9-3 but I'm willing to give a close round if need be.

A draw is a bit of a stinker it really was. Obviously the disgraceful card just rubs it in worse. Ffs if you're gonna be corrupt at least try be realistic with it. Can a professional judge be that inept?

Thinking of close fights...

Kovalev v ward 1 was closer than this
Golovkin v Jacobs was possibly closer.

Disappointed for golovkin I really am

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Canelo just needs another 10,000 hours of practice!