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Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 04:27
by jamamb
Enlightened-One wrote:
jamamb wrote:did he ever get that povetkin money or is that still in court
I’m not sure if Deontay Wilder has received any payment yet from the lawsuit, since legal proceedings appear to be ongoing. What I’ve read is that the money is still in escrow.

Four weeks ago, a New York court denied Andrey Ryabinsky's WOB’s “Motion for Judgment as a Matter of Law or in the alternative, a New Trial”, due to its belief that the jury for the Wilder-Povetkin lawsuit did its job in evaluating the evidence and the credibility of witnesses and based on it was able to produce the jury verdict.

Andrey Ryabinsky's World of Boxing still has the opportunity to appeal and I don’t believe that they will abandon their lawsuit.

I read somewhere that prior to the Wilder-Povetkin lawsuit that both parties agreed to limit the case to one lawsuit, which was done to limit the court costs and fees. So part of these costs me be deducted from Wilder’s compensation.
thx mate. was wondering about an appeal :TU:

seriously, no need for me to search up things when ive got someone like you :bow:

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 04:30
by Crease
My splits would be:

55-45 AJ vs Wilder
60-40 AJ vs Parker

And I'm being generous to the Yank and the Aussie.

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 04:33
by Ossyrules
Crease wrote:My splits would be:

55-45 AJ vs Wilder
60-40 AJ vs Parker

And I'm being generous to the Yank and the Aussie.
Mega generous

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 04:57
by Ruthless-RKO
Enlightened-One wrote:
jamamb wrote:did he ever get that povetkin money or is that still in court
I’m not sure if Deontay Wilder has received any payment yet from the lawsuit, since legal proceedings appear to be ongoing. What I’ve read is that the money is still in escrow.

Four weeks ago, a New York court denied Andrey Ryabinsky's WOB’s “Motion for Judgment as a Matter of Law or in the alternative, a New Trial”, due to its belief that the jury for the Wilder-Povetkin lawsuit did its job in evaluating the evidence and the credibility of witnesses and based on it was able to produce the jury verdict.

Andrey Ryabinsky's World of Boxing still has the opportunity to appeal and I don’t believe that they will abandon their lawsuit.

I read somewhere that prior to the Wilder-Povetkin lawsuit that both parties agreed to limit the case to one lawsuit, which was done to limit the court costs and fees. So part of these costs may be deducted from Wilder’s compensation.
Read my above post mate..

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 05:15
by Enlightened-One
Ruthless-RKO wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:
jamamb wrote:did he ever get that povetkin money or is that still in court
I’m not sure if Deontay Wilder has received any payment yet from the lawsuit, since legal proceedings appear to be ongoing. What I’ve read is that the money is still in escrow.

Four weeks ago, a New York court denied Andrey Ryabinsky's WOB’s “Motion for Judgment as a Matter of Law or in the alternative, a New Trial”, due to its belief that the jury for the Wilder-Povetkin lawsuit did its job in evaluating the evidence and the credibility of witnesses and based on it was able to produce the jury verdict.

Andrey Ryabinsky's World of Boxing still has the opportunity to appeal and I don’t believe that they will abandon their lawsuit.

I read somewhere that prior to the Wilder-Povetkin lawsuit that both parties agreed to limit the case to one lawsuit, which was done to limit the court costs and fees. So part of these costs may be deducted from Wilder’s compensation.
Read my above post mate..
I think you may have misinterpreted the content of my post.

I wasn’t disputing the fact that Wilder was awarded $5m in damages in February.

However, it seems that this money is still in escrow, because World of Boxing (Ryabinsky/Povetkin = WOB) are continuing legal proceedings.

Four weeks ago, a New York court rejected their motion for a completely new trial, but WOB still have the right of appeal of the initial verdict of the original case, which they are likely to use.

Also, due to the fact that both Wilder-Povetkin parties agreed to limit the case to one lawsuit, to minimise expenses, some of these costs will likely be shared by both parties and deducted from Deontay’s $5m damages windfall (if he ever receives it).

Copies of the actual legal documents, where I obtained my information, can be obtained from the ‘MMA Payout’ website, since they are in the public domain.

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 05:28
by Ruthless-RKO
Enlightened-One wrote:
Ruthless-RKO wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote: I’m not sure if Deontay Wilder has received any payment yet from the lawsuit, since legal proceedings appear to be ongoing. What I’ve read is that the money is still in escrow.

Four weeks ago, a New York court denied Andrey Ryabinsky's WOB’s “Motion for Judgment as a Matter of Law or in the alternative, a New Trial”, due to its belief that the jury for the Wilder-Povetkin lawsuit did its job in evaluating the evidence and the credibility of witnesses and based on it was able to produce the jury verdict.

Andrey Ryabinsky's World of Boxing still has the opportunity to appeal and I don’t believe that they will abandon their lawsuit.

I read somewhere that prior to the Wilder-Povetkin lawsuit that both parties agreed to limit the case to one lawsuit, which was done to limit the court costs and fees. So part of these costs may be deducted from Wilder’s compensation.
Read my above post mate..
I think you may have misinterpreted the content of my post.

I wasn’t disputing the fact that Wilder was awarded $5m in damages in February.

However, it seems that this money is still in escrow, because World of Boxing (Ryabinsky/Povetkin = WOB) are continuing legal proceedings.

Four weeks ago, a New York court rejected their motion for a completely new trial, but WOB still have the right of appeal of the initial verdict of the original case, which they are likely to use.

Also, due to the fact that both Wilder-Povetkin parties agreed to limit the case to one lawsuit, to minimise expenses, some of these costs will likely be shared by both parties and deducted from Deontay’s $5m damages windfall (if he ever receives it).

Copies of the actual legal documents, where I obtained my information, can be obtained from the ‘MMA Payout’ website, since they are in the public domain.
I read the first line, kinda skimmed the rest.. apologies.. After the article I posted, I kind of stopped following the case.. but that's interesting.

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 08:59
by SaadOffTheDeck
Ossyrules wrote:
Ruthless-RKO wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
Wilder wanted 7 to face Whyte

Is this quote in reference to Whyte or Joshua fight
Correct.. He did ask for 7 vs. Whyte..

Joshua, he is going to want more. I think no more than $4 million would be acceptable vs. Whyte..
I thought 3 mil was good money for wilder personally! He was never getting 7 to face him
He probably would have taken three without options. He also had stiverne to deal with. Hearn is very good and he has easy work with someone like Wilder. Eddie doesn't want him fighting Joshua without a piece of him.

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 09:05
by Ruthless-RKO
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
Ruthless-RKO wrote:
Correct.. He did ask for 7 vs. Whyte..

Joshua, he is going to want more. I think no more than $4 million would be acceptable vs. Whyte..
I thought 3 mil was good money for wilder personally! He was never getting 7 to face him
He probably would have taken three without options. He also had stiverne to deal with. Hearn is very good and he has easy work with someone like Wilder. Eddie doesn't want him fighting Joshua without a piece of him.
Ohh.. Typical Hearn wants options..

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 09:08
by SaadOffTheDeck
Ruthless-RKO wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Ossyrules wrote:
I thought 3 mil was good money for wilder personally! He was never getting 7 to face him
He probably would have taken three without options. He also had stiverne to deal with. Hearn is very good and he has easy work with someone like Wilder. Eddie doesn't want him fighting Joshua without a piece of him.
Ohh.. Typical Hearn wants options..
That's why Wilder barked back 7 million. As I've said many times, he'd be better off with hearn but this whole he fears Whyte from the Wilder retards is just another part of their idiotic agenda.

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 09:10
by Ruthless-RKO
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Ruthless-RKO wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: He probably would have taken three without options. He also had stiverne to deal with. Hearn is very good and he has easy work with someone like Wilder. Eddie doesn't want him fighting Joshua without a piece of him.
Ohh.. Typical Hearn wants options..
That's why Wilder barked back 7 million. As I've said many times, he'd be better off with hearn but this whole he fears Whyte from the Wilder retards is just another part of their idiotic agenda.
Is he not tied down with DiBella?

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 09:32
by SaadOffTheDeck
Ruthless-RKO wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Ruthless-RKO wrote:
Ohh.. Typical Hearn wants options..
That's why Wilder barked back 7 million. As I've said many times, he'd be better off with hearn but this whole he fears Whyte from the Wilder retards is just another part of their idiotic agenda.
Is he not tied down with DiBella?
I don't know the exact details. He's loyal to DiBella and Al, Lou certainly isn't opposed to co-promotional deals that make him money. Whyte and 3 million certainly isn't enough to deliver options to another promoter.

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 11:32
by Enlightened-One
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Ruthless-RKO wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: That's why Wilder barked back 7 million. As I've said many times, he'd be better off with hearn but this whole he fears Whyte from the Wilder retards is just another part of their idiotic agenda.
Is he not tied down with DiBella?
I don't know the exact details. He's loyal to DiBella and Al, Lou certainly isn't opposed to co-promotional deals that make him money. Whyte and 3 million certainly isn't enough to deliver options to another promoter.
Hearn offered Wilder a $4m guaranteed fight purse, plus US television revenue, to fight Whyte, with the winner gaining an opportunity to face Anthony Joshua.

Deontay Wilder rejected Eddie Hearn’s offer stating that he expected somewhere between $7m to $10m to face Whyte, when he explained the following to BS.com:

“I can definitely see where that happens,” Wilder told BS.com of facing Whyte. “It happens when Eddie raises that price. That’s when it can happen. If he can come up with $7 [million], whether it comes out of his pocket or not, we’ll listen. … The Dillian Whyte fight, it can happen. But it’s gonna take a little bit more than what they’re talking about. Let them raise it up to $7 to $10 [million] and let’s talk. For $4 million and then they’re talking about me coming over there and all that – the thing about it is I don’t need Dillian Whyte.”

'The Bronze Bomber' was only paid $900K when he fought Gerald Washington. He received $1.4m for the Arreola fight, $1.5m to face Szpilka and $1.4m for the Duhaupas bout. Wilder’s purse for his first bout against Stiverne was only $1m, which is pretty poor considering he was on the proverbial A-side at the time.

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 14:21
by TheGingerBomber
Question - when Wilder says "7 million, whether it comes out of Eddie's pocket or not".

Would the money Hearn is offering right now not amount to that? He keeps saying like 3.5 million dollars, plus American TV money. Would that not amount to 7 or more? Or is it just small cash?

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 14:23
by SaadOffTheDeck
TheGingerBomber wrote:Question - when Wilder says "7 million, whether it comes out of Eddie's pocket or not".

Would the money Hearn is offering right now not amount to that? He keeps saying like 3.5 million dollars, plus American TV money. Would that not amount to 7 or more? Or is it just small cash?
For a Whyte fight in the UK? That wouldn't be close to a million.

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 14:30
by TheGingerBomber
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
TheGingerBomber wrote:Question - when Wilder says "7 million, whether it comes out of Eddie's pocket or not".

Would the money Hearn is offering right now not amount to that? He keeps saying like 3.5 million dollars, plus American TV money. Would that not amount to 7 or more? Or is it just small cash?
For a Whyte fight in the UK? That wouldn't be close to a million.
I see, I didn't know what amount the American TV would come to.
If that's the case though, 7 million ain't that far off, if they can get Wilder to just shimmy down a bit, stop being a little bitch, they might just get it done.

But if this does get done in the UK, it's gonna have to be PPV, however will they have the money for an undercard of sufficient quality? I doubt it. Can't see Wilder/Whyte selling as much as Eddie thinks, but then again, he's the Don.

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 14:35
by boxing_rocks
Wow, we are still discussing Wilder's purse instead of Hearn's penis :lol:
Hearn: "Wilder wants $7 mil? I want 11-inch penis. No chance!

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 14:37
by SaadOffTheDeck
TheGingerBomber wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
TheGingerBomber wrote:Question - when Wilder says "7 million, whether it comes out of Eddie's pocket or not".

Would the money Hearn is offering right now not amount to that? He keeps saying like 3.5 million dollars, plus American TV money. Would that not amount to 7 or more? Or is it just small cash?
For a Whyte fight in the UK? That wouldn't be close to a million.
I see, I didn't know what amount the American TV would come to.
If that's the case though, 7 million ain't that far off, if they can get Wilder to just shimmy down a bit, stop being a little bitch, they might just get it done.

But if this does get done in the UK, it's gonna have to be PPV, however will they have the money for an undercard of sufficient quality? I doubt it. Can't see Wilder/Whyte selling as much as Eddie thinks, but then again, he's the Don.
If hearn stopped being a little bitch and insisting on multifight options it could easily get done. That's the only reason he's offering big money in the first place.

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 14:40
by SaadOffTheDeck
jamamb wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:
jamamb wrote:did he ever get that povetkin money or is that still in court
I’m not sure if Deontay Wilder has received any payment yet from the lawsuit, since legal proceedings appear to be ongoing. What I’ve read is that the money is still in escrow.

Four weeks ago, a New York court denied Andrey Ryabinsky's WOB’s “Motion for Judgment as a Matter of Law or in the alternative, a New Trial”, due to its belief that the jury for the Wilder-Povetkin lawsuit did its job in evaluating the evidence and the credibility of witnesses and based on it was able to produce the jury verdict.

Andrey Ryabinsky's World of Boxing still has the opportunity to appeal and I don’t believe that they will abandon their lawsuit.

I read somewhere that prior to the Wilder-Povetkin lawsuit that both parties agreed to limit the case to one lawsuit, which was done to limit the court costs and fees. So part of these costs me be deducted from Wilder’s compensation.
thx mate. was wondering about an appeal :TU:

seriously, no need for me to search up things when ive got someone like you :bow:
He even dug up an article that clowned himself and proved me right the other day. That was a new one!

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 14:46
by TheGingerBomber
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
TheGingerBomber wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: For a Whyte fight in the UK? That wouldn't be close to a million.
I see, I didn't know what amount the American TV would come to.
If that's the case though, 7 million ain't that far off, if they can get Wilder to just shimmy down a bit, stop being a little bitch, they might just get it done.

But if this does get done in the UK, it's gonna have to be PPV, however will they have the money for an undercard of sufficient quality? I doubt it. Can't see Wilder/Whyte selling as much as Eddie thinks, but then again, he's the Don.
If hearn stopped being a little bitch and insisting on multifight options it could easily get done. That's the only reason he's offering big money in the first place.
I think Hearn beats Wilder.

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 14:48
by SaadOffTheDeck
Then you shouldn't be interested in Whyte/Wilder anyway. :TU:

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 20:03
by ClivePatrickLyons
Ossyrules wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Best way to avoid someone that's a touch too dangerous start calling yourself the A-SIDE that'll eff'm :wave: :zzz:
Equally effective is demanding much more than you're worth. :wave: :zzz:
Punchout 1 clive 0


Hearn watching Golden Boy these are the very people who fornicate the game and the idiot's who agree with the likes of Hearn :twisted:

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 20:22
by asdfjkl
It's time to ignnnore Wilder and his media fanboys completely, let him have fun with his doping bullshit and his cars full of drugs, he won't fight anyone anyway. He fights 10 of his friends, or some bums for free, that will lay down for free, but doesn't actually dare to fight anyone reasonable. Whenever he meets someone like that, he asks ridiculous demands which clearly makes it an obvious duck, or he only accepts if he knows the fight doesn't happen.

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 20:40
by SaadOffTheDeck
asdfjkl wrote:It's time to ignnnore Wilder
You couldn't do that if someone paid you to try.

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 20:49
by tiny_acres
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:It's time to ignnnore Wilder
You couldn't do that if someone paid you to try.
You do notice he says that in the first sentence yet goes on a rant continuing to bash Wilder.
The irony of captain dumbfuck

Re: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 20:50
by SaadOffTheDeck
tiny_acres wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:It's time to ignnnore Wilder
You couldn't do that if someone paid you to try.
You do notice he says that in the first sentence yet goes on a rant continuing to bash Wilder.
The irony of captain dumbfuck
:lol:

He says it all the time. I'm amazed that Wilder has Floyd level hate around without even accomplishing anything worth hating him over.