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Rob3_142 wrote: ↑16 Jun 2019, 17:20 I'm a bit sad to read about all this hindsight about the outcome of this Ruiz victory over Joshua...

I am in particularly shocked that everyone thinks all of a sudden Andy Ruiz Jr is a world beater...

I have been a long-term fan of Andy Ruiz Jr's since early 2016. I have proven track-record on this forum of praising the previously unerappreciated Mexican.

I didn't think he'd beat AJ, but I was confident he'd put up a fantastic fight.

The outcome of the Joshua-Ruiz Jr. bout wasn't such a huge upset to me.

kbackup408 wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 15:39 RKO has a special place in this forum - we need a final eliminator between Creed & RKO to settle this for the vacant P4P prediction strap !

Cheers guys. Creed said Ruiz May surprise us.

I correctly predicted the knockout win.

It’s good be to right. Not many legit gave Ruiz a chance.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 Jun 2019, 19:42 Cheers guys. Creed said Ruiz May surprise us.

I correctly predicted the knockout win.

It’s good be to right. Not many legit gave Ruiz a chance.

I think you were the only two.

ewenhay wrote: ↑16 Jun 2019, 19:44 I think you were the only two.

Creed was less certain of his pick. He didn't flat out pick Ruiz. He did no more than what I posted in most likely upset thread when I picked Ruiz as most likely to upset his opponent. So the clear winner was Ruthless who flat out picked Ruiz by KO. An amazing accomplishment.

if someone picked ruiiz only after hed dropped aj thats very different tthen picking him before the fight

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 May 2019, 14:53 Even Andy has not a great boxing physique, he's a good boxer with fast hands. Ruiz should put a great effort vs AJ. Andy Ruiz had a close fight vs Parker if I remember correctly.

oogiebe wrote: ↑06 May 2019, 14:55 He's a lamb being led to the slaughter, let's no fool ourselves. Doesn't take away from what he can do in the ring, but it's AJ he's facing.

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 May 2019, 15:08 Watch that 'lamb' vs Parker and then watch Parker vs AJ. It is a while since then but Andy is not a walk in the park.

Everyone is general after a battle.

ValMar wrote: ↑17 Jun 2019, 05:26 Everyone is general after a battle.

lot true


People before the fight: "What a joke of a fight/ mismatch/ Not a chance for Ruiz/AJ by KO inside 4 rounds, etc."

Same people after the fight to the people that thought it could be a tough/difficult fight for AJ: "Yeah right but you didn't precisely predict the round, the minute, the second and the result. So it doesn't count."

The thing is almost nobody was giving to Ruiz a chance of posing some problems to AJ/give him fists in this fight! Let alone to win.

apollo creed wrote: ↑17 Jun 2019, 07:48 lot true


People before the fight: "What a joke of a fight/ mismatch/ Not a chance for Ruiz/AJ by KO inside 4 rounds, etc."

Same people after the fight to the people that thought it could be a tough/difficult fight for AJ: "Yeah right but you didn't precisely predict the round, the minute, the second and the result. So it doesn't count."

The thing is almost nobody was giving to Ruiz a chance of posing some problems to AJ/give him fists in this fight! Let alone to win.

You are right, absolutely.

But how many weeks/months will it take Ruiz to knuckle back down into training is the question?

greg wrote: ↑07 May 2019, 14:02

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 May 2019, 13:56 Picks up his stool and slams AJ over the head.

...will only piss off AJ and accelerate Ruiz demise

The "smart guys" hisss ! : )

apollo creed wrote: ↑17 Jun 2019, 07:48The thing is almost nobody was giving to Ruiz a chance of posing some problems to AJ/give him fists in this fight! Let alone to win.

I did. I've posted lots of pro-Ruiz Jr. comments to this forum well before the Mexican-American's bout against Joseph Parker, when I was ridiculed for believing he had a chance to beat the Kiwi.

I wonder who here outright picked Andy to beat AJ.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Sep 2019, 13:45 I wonder who here outright picked Andy to beat AJ.

PUGLET did.

Joe Speck wrote: ↑23 Sep 2019, 13:34

greg wrote: ↑07 May 2019, 14:02

...will only piss off AJ and accelerate Ruiz demise

The "smart guys" hisss ! : )

Oh, we were the only ones believing AJ would beat Ruiz? I see...

Maybe the title of this thread should have said "Joshua could surprise us! He's no joke!

It wasn't like the 1st fight was close. Joshua has to prove he isn't a hype job.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Sep 2019, 13:45 I wonder who here outright picked Andy to beat AJ.

Not me. I would have bet $1000 that AJ would beat Ruiz. I thank god I don't bet on fights!

This thread has aged like fine french wine

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Sep 2019, 13:55

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Sep 2019, 13:45 I wonder who here outright picked Andy to beat AJ.

PUGLET did.

And me..

I'm curious to see what AJ is gonna bring to the table differently in the rematch. I mean it could be a jab-jab and grab type of strategy with an occasionally straight right hand safety thrown to get the decision ?

The thing is Ruiz Jr trained hard too and his confidence is sky-high. Also how AJ is gonna cope with the adversity when the fight would turn into a brawl? Some things can't be learnt or trained, especially in a short period of time. You are born with them or not. Also AJ got his chin shattered and he could be gun-shy. I think Ruiz is gonna go with all guns blazing and try to land hard on AJ's chin to T/K.O him knowing that he can take AJ's power. It's all mental and AJ knows Ruiz Jr has his number and the kryptonite. Anyway it will be interesting to see if AJ can pull out a Kovalev-Alvarez II type of performance.

I think Ruiz will fight exactly the same way as last time. Key question will be his fitness and motivation.

It's up to Joshua to try something different. I think Ruiz will be patient early and see what Joshua brings to the table.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑24 Sep 2019, 04:16

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Sep 2019, 13:55

PUGLET did.

And me..

Before the fight? Nice

If they get Giuseppe Quartarone to ref, and keep Ruiz away from Joshua like what happened in the Parker fight, Joshua will probably win.