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Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 24 Jul 2019, 15:48
by ewenhay
I dont understand
Joshua wants to fight in the USA to avenge his loss. I say fair play to him.
Why are his fans complaining?
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 24 Jul 2019, 15:49
by oogiebe
greg wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 15:46
Gentlemen, it‘s almost 2am in my place, have to go to bed now..
take care Greg. It's all good.
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 24 Jul 2019, 15:49
by oogiebe
ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 15:48
I dont understand
Joshua wants to fight in the USA to avenge his loss. I say fair play to him.
Why are his fans complaining?
It's the UK way.
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 24 Jul 2019, 15:50
by greg
oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 15:49
greg wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 15:46
Gentlemen, it‘s almost 2am in my place, have to go to bed now..
take care Greg. It's all good.
sure thing, Oogiebe...
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 24 Jul 2019, 16:32
by 5burowz
So, if I had to guess, I think he's saying he's terrified of a rematch. Ruiz took his soul in that fight.
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 24 Jul 2019, 16:33
by oogiebe
5burowz wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 16:32
So, if I had to guess, I think he's saying he's terrified of a rematch. Ruiz took his soul in that fight.
I tend to agree. He'll retire if he loses that rematch. Past comments of him complaining about preparation and going through "wars" lends me to believe he just doesn't really like this line of work.
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 24 Jul 2019, 16:34
by margaret thatcher
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 12:25
What do you think about this latest series of excuses?
but was his elbow okay
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 24 Jul 2019, 16:35
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 16:34
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Jul 2019, 12:25
What do you think about this latest series of excuses?
but was his elbow okay
Touche'! Except that fighter didn't get the crap kicked out of him.
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 24 Jul 2019, 16:39
by margaret thatcher
that he did not, but where do we draw the line between treating something as legit and deriding it as an excuse?
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 24 Jul 2019, 16:43
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 16:39
that he did not, but where do we draw the line between treating something as legit and deriding it as an excuse?
I was using AJ's words himself. Not sure why a conversation about AJ has to be misdirected to Wilder every single time. Had AJ not said he wanted to fight the rematch in NY to atone for his entire loss, I wouldn't even be discussing the push for the UK. For him to say he wasn't 'up for the fight' is a lame excuse, like it or not. I hope he can turn it around. It would be good for the sport to have a comeback story, but I am in doubt of his mental toughness given all his post fight chatter. Bringing up Wilder doesn't help AJ's situation nor change it.
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 24 Jul 2019, 16:52
by margaret thatcher
its not wilder just in general. ppl here are going on about 'ooh so many excuses, oh hes losing the plot' but where do you draw the line between whats legit and what is just nonsense? we know that some other ppl have had there excuses treated as not worth blasting out and loling at .....
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 24 Jul 2019, 16:54
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 16:52
its not wilder himself, just in general. ppl here are going on about 'ooh so many excuses' but where do you draw the line between whats legit and what is just nonsense? we know that some ppl have there excuses treated as not worth blasting out...
Agreed. You're not wrong about that. To me it's not the excuses/reasons being said; it's the variety and type. I'm hoping AJ gets his head on straight. None it is doing him any good.
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 24 Jul 2019, 17:31
by ewenhay
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 16:52
its not wilder just in general. ppl here are going on about 'ooh so many excuses, oh hes losing the plot' but where do you draw the line between whats legit and what is just nonsense? we know that some other ppl have had there excuses treated as not worth blasting out and loling at .....
Many fighters have an excuse (or several) when they lose. Often it's a psychological thing to hang onto a reason for losing.
Very few athletes are ever 100% fit for any length of time. There's always some niggle or another, particularly in a competitive or contact sport.
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 24 Jul 2019, 17:36
by oogiebe
ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 17:31
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 16:52
its not wilder just in general. ppl here are going on about 'ooh so many excuses, oh hes losing the plot' but where do you draw the line between whats legit and what is just nonsense? we know that some other ppl have had there excuses treated as not worth blasting out and loling at .....
Many fighters have an excuse (or several) when they lose. Often it's a psychological thing to hang onto a reason for losing.
Very few athletes are ever 100% fit for any length of time. There's always some niggle or another, particularly in a competitive or contact sport.
This thread was started with AJ's own video of excuses. Not sure why his fanboys feel compelled to defend him all the time. LIke they have a stake in it or something.
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 24 Jul 2019, 17:39
by ewenhay
oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 17:36
ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 17:31
Many fighters have an excuse (or several) when they lose. Often it's a psychological thing to hang onto a reason for losing.
Very few athletes are ever 100% fit for any length of time. There's always some niggle or another, particularly in a competitive or contact sport.
This thread was started with AJ's own video of excuses. Not sure why his fanboys feel compelled to defend him all the time. LIke they have a stake in it or something.
Fans sometimes become over invested in a fighter to the point they need the excuses to somehow validate their man's loss.
Or something like that
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 24 Jul 2019, 17:42
by oogiebe
ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 17:39
oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 17:36
This thread was started with AJ's own video of excuses. Not sure why his fanboys feel compelled to defend him all the time. LIke they have a stake in it or something.
Fans sometimes become over invested in a fighter to the point they need the excuses to somehow validate their man's loss.
Or something like that
Clearly. They fight over someone they've never met with someone they've never met. It's extraordinary.
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 24 Jul 2019, 17:44
by ewenhay
oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 17:42
ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 17:39
Fans sometimes become over invested in a fighter to the point they need the excuses to somehow validate their man's loss.
Or something like that
Clearly. They fight over someone they've never met with someone they've never met. It's extraordinary.
Sport does funny things to us sometimes!
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 00:32
by jtourettes
ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 15:48
I dont understand
Joshua wants to fight in the USA to avenge his loss. I say fair play to him.
Why are his fans complaining?
Because it's a bigger risk and they're fans of Joshua, not of boxing.
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 00:50
by margaret thatcher
pretty much all of us are on here commenting week in and week out mostly over guys weve probably never met, thats the nature of being a fan and posting about high level pros
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 02:06
by Ilya Muromets
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 00:50
pretty much all of us are on here commenting week in and week out mostly over guys weve probably never met, thats the nature of being a fan and posting about high level pros
It's silly really, but it's something that people do.
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 02:33
by candyslim
ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 15:48
I dont understand
Joshua wants to fight in the USA to avenge his loss. I say fair play to him.
Why are his fans complaining?
Because some people need protecting from themselves. We have seen just how vulnerable Joshua was in the Ruiz fight. Maybe that was an abberation, maybe it wasn't. Yes it's admirable that he wants to go back to MSG but it's also stupid.
If he does that and gets beaten none of those calling for him do that are going to give a sh1t. Some will delight in his failure as they have already. He isn't guaranteed to beat Ruiz in the UK but he owes it to himself to give himself the best chance.
He has one opportunity to win back those titles. Fukc it up and there may never be another.
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 09:25
by ewenhay
candyslim wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 02:33
ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 15:48
I dont understand
Joshua wants to fight in the USA to avenge his loss. I say fair play to him.
Why are his fans complaining?
Because some people need protecting from themselves. We have seen just how vulnerable Joshua was in the Ruiz fight. Maybe that was an abberation, maybe it wasn't. Yes it's admirable that he wants to go back to MSG but it's also stupid.
If he does that and gets beaten none of those calling for him do that are going to give a sh1t. Some will delight in his failure as they have already. He isn't guaranteed to beat Ruiz in the UK but he owes it to himself to give himself the best chance.
He has one opportunity to win back those titles. Fukc it up and there may never be another.
I admire your loyalty to your man but you're not his carer. If he takes on the challenge and loses, so what?
Maybe he doesn't want a protected record? Maybe he wants to prove himself? Why should you deny him that? He doesn't belong to you.
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 09:26
by ewenhay
jtourettes wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 00:32
ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 15:48
I dont understand
Joshua wants to fight in the USA to avenge his loss. I say fair play to him.
Why are his fans complaining?
Because it's a bigger risk and they're fans of Joshua, not of boxing.
Yeah I think you're right
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 09:36
by margaret thatcher
greg wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 15:46
Gentlemen, it‘s almost 2am in my place, have to go to bed now..
get your priorities in life straight my man, sleep can wait, posting on boxrec is far more important
Re: AJ: Ruiz not the guy I wanted to be fighting
Posted: 25 Jul 2019, 10:49
by tiny_acres