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Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 28 Mar 2020, 10:22
by Tony1244
tiny_acres wrote: ↑28 Mar 2020, 10:14
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Mar 2020, 09:21
The US media is also known to embellish situations somewhat and seems to be the source of a lot of fake news.
This is ironic coming from a guy who uses the media to provide his boxing facts
I would say the fake news on this virus is coming out of Russia, China, India.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 28 Mar 2020, 12:53
by Enlightened-One
tiny_acres wrote: ↑28 Mar 2020, 10:14
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Mar 2020, 09:21
The US media is also known to embellish situations somewhat and seems to be the source of a lot of fake news.
This is ironic coming from a guy who uses the media to provide his boxing facts
Quoting interview transcripts from the horse’s mouth and providing videos, isn’t the same as citing anonymous sources or third-parties that are merely speculating.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 28 Mar 2020, 17:24
by margaret thatcher
Some boxing happening in Japan?
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 04:15
by Lennox
I reckon no boxing this year in many countries.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 29 Mar 2020, 15:02
by Boxing Prospect
April 5th
April 26th
May 2nd
May 10th
All pencilled in, but subject to change at the moment
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 03:29
by Enlightened-One
Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑29 Mar 2020, 15:02
April 5th
April 26th
May 2nd
May 10th
All pencilled in, but subject to change at the moment
All boxing shows in March and April, in Japan, were completely canceled by the Japan Boxing Commission (JBC) and the JPBA (Japan Professional Boxing Association; the union of all licensed club owners).
However, the JBC & the JPBA haven't cancelled boxing events scheduled from May onwards. They've said that if there are futher COVID-19 infections up to and including May, then they'll be forced to suspend all boxing events again.
So the dates are definitely subject to change.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 03:38
by margaret thatcher
They did sumo and kickboxing there recently, they are living on the edge
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 03:41
by DazBoxingFan
Stuarty wrote: ↑22 Mar 2020, 03:36
Doubt we will see any action till after June time. Promoters and tv will probably start re-planning shows when there's signs of light at the end of the tunnel but that obviously takes time and they'll need to allow time for fighters to get a full camp and to sell tickets etc...
Agreed 100%. No way will it be a 3 week lockdown, it’s best case scenario mid-late may. Most fighters these days want a 8-12 week training camp (especially when they’ve been sitting inside eating shit), I think best case scenario boxing resumes in September
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 03:42
by DazBoxingFan
Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑29 Mar 2020, 15:02
April 5th
April 26th
May 2nd
May 10th
All pencilled in, but subject to change at the moment
Japanese are much more disciplined also, they’ll probably be doing social distancing in the venue etc. No chance it happening here
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 03:43
by margaret thatcher
From what I saw of the kickboxing/sumo, it looked like no audience there. Just officials
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 03:44
by DazBoxingFan
gregregegg wrote: ↑26 Mar 2020, 22:52
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑25 Mar 2020, 11:31
Doctors, especially neurologists arent working 24/7. If the price was right theyd be fight doctors.
The optics might be bad but when has boxing cared about public perception?
You can get the Dr for the 2 hours for fight night. but if someone has a head injury and needs an ICU bed for the next 2-10 weeks..... thats the problem, governing bodys wont allow somthing with the risk of needed care not being available.
Exactly this
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 03:46
by margaret thatcher
The last US boxing I saw was the Brandun Lee ShoBox card 2 weeks ago, I think it was just 'immediate' family of fighters allowed to be there.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 03:48
by margaret thatcher
And that felt like it was a hell of a lot longer than 2 weeks ago, time moving slow in lockdown bruhs
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 09:18
by Enlightened-One
"BBBoC Suspends All UK Shows Through End Of May"
The British Boxing Board of Control has extended its suspension of all tournaments until the end of May due to the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, effectively pulling the plug on both of Matchroom’s scheduled pay-per-view heavyweight events during the month.
It is the second time the BBBoC has extended its suspension on all shows, with all people in the United Kingdom told to stay at home and gatherings of more than two people prevented as the Government tries to control to spread of the pandemic, which has claimed more than 1,200 lives in the country.
“We will continue to follow the Government and Medical Authorities’ advice and keep the situation under review and, when possible, explore all options available to find a way of lifting the suspension when conditions permit,” Robert Smith, the BBBoC general secretary, said in a statement.
“We would like to re-emphasise that our thoughts are with everyone affected by COVID-19.”
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 11:18
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 16:16
by Boxing Prospect
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Mar 2020, 03:29
Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑29 Mar 2020, 15:02
April 5th
April 26th
May 2nd
May 10th
All pencilled in, but subject to change at the moment
All boxing shows in March and April, in Japan, were completely canceled by the Japan Boxing Commission (JBC) and the JPBA (Japan Professional Boxing Association; the union of all licensed club owners).
However, the JBC & the JPBA haven't cancelled boxing events scheduled from May onwards. They've said that if there are futher COVID-19 infections up to and including May, then they'll be forced to suspend all boxing events again.
So the dates are definitely subject to change.
The two April shows were only postponed today (they were directly promoted by the JBC/JPBA and were set to be behind closed doors).
Now all shows cancelled up to May 19th have been postponed (including Takayama's proposed return on May 10th which was announced on March 29th)... suspect it'll be June or July now :(
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 22:55
by diddy
It’s incomprehensible how badly China has f’d Up literally the entire world right now. All part of their plan of course. This wasn’t a man made disease. But they sure did exploit it when they caught wind of it by concealing what was happening and allowing their people to spread it to democracies all around the world. All part of their plan of course to boost the power of their communism to their people knowing they have the power over their people to shut down the entire country to stop the spread that THEY started. “See our communism is superior to these stupid democracies who give too much liberty to their people.” What an utterly disgusting, reprehensible country.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 06:27
by Enlightened-One
diddy wrote: ↑30 Mar 2020, 22:55
It’s incomprehensible how badly China has f’d Up literally the entire world right now...
But they sure did exploit it when they caught wind of it by concealing what was happening and allowing their people to spread it to democracies all around the world...
What an utterly disgusting, reprehensible country.
I’m not arguing with you, merely intrigued to know what led you to believe China concealed the coronavirus disease?
• Chinese newspapers first confirmed Covid-19 cases on the 17th November 2019
• The World Health Organisation (WHO) wrote about it during December 2019
• And China started providing regular updates to the US from the 3rd January 2020 onwards
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 06:53
by Lenny Cravats
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Mar 2020, 06:27
diddy wrote: ↑30 Mar 2020, 22:55
It’s incomprehensible how badly China has f’d Up literally the entire world right now...
But they sure did exploit it when they caught wind of it by concealing what was happening and allowing their people to spread it to democracies all around the world...
What an utterly disgusting, reprehensible country.
I’m not arguing with you, merely intrigued to know what led you to believe China concealed the coronavirus disease?
• Chinese newspapers first confirmed Covid-19 cases on the 17th November 2019
• The World Health Organisation (WHO) wrote about it during December 2019
• And China started providing regular updates to the US from the 3rd January 2020 onwards
Well, there's been press releases from many countries stating quite clearly that they feel that China had hidden the scale and infectiousness of the disease.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 07:19
by Enlightened-One
Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑31 Mar 2020, 06:53
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Mar 2020, 06:27
I’m not arguing with you, merely intrigued to know what led you to believe China concealed the coronavirus disease?
• Chinese newspapers first confirmed Covid-19 cases on the 17th November 2019
• The World Health Organisation (WHO) wrote about it during December 2019
• And China started providing regular updates to the US from the 3rd January 2020 onwards
Well, there's been press releases from many countries stating quite clearly that they feel that China had hidden the scale and infectiousness of the disease.
Yeah, I’ve read the same accusations too.
I’m not saying they’re wrong either, but none of those claims have been backed up with anything meaningful.
For sure, I have my own suspicions and I’ve also read paperwork relating to class action lawsuits filed against China, but most of the accusations are based on media claims, rather than any evidence.
I’ve done a lot of research, but I still don’t know very much about the situation or the justification for these allegations, since nearly everything I’ve read or seen is based on hearsay.
Put it this way, people have assumed that China must have concealed the true extent of the coronavirus, simply because they’ve had so few cases.
However, there are 15 countries that share land or sea borders with China, but they also reported very few instances of the coronavirus. Are they hiding information from the Western world also?
I’ve also read a report about a doctor (Dr Li Wenliang) trying to raise awareness of the coronavirus outbreak and being told to stop by the Chinese police, but the timelines don’t really seem compatible, since a newspaper reported COVID-19 on the 17th November and the doctor was allowed to return to work.
I’m hoping that someone more knowledge than me can share more concrete proof, because there doesn’t seem to be any.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 08:22
by Lenny Cravats
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Mar 2020, 07:19
Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑31 Mar 2020, 06:53
Well, there's been press releases from many countries stating quite clearly that they feel that China had hidden the scale and infectiousness of the disease.
Yeah, I’ve read the same accusations too.
I’m not saying they’re wrong either, but none of those claims have been backed up with anything meaningful.
For sure, I have my own suspicions and I’ve also read paperwork relating to class action lawsuits filed against China, but most of the accusations are based on media claims, rather than any evidence.
I’ve done a lot of research, but I still don’t know very much about the situation or the justification for these allegations, since nearly everything I’ve read or seen is based on hearsay.
Put it this way, people have assumed that China must have concealed the true extent of the coronavirus, simply because they’ve had so few cases.
However, there are 15 countries that share land or sea borders with China, but they also reported very few instances of the coronavirus. Are they hiding information from the Western world also?
I’ve also read a report about a doctor (Dr Li Wenliang) trying to raise awareness of the coronavirus outbreak and being told to stop by the Chinese police, but the timelines don’t really seem compatible, since a newspaper reported COVID-19 on the 17th November and the doctor was allowed to return to work.
I’m hoping that someone more knowledge than me can share more concrete proof, because there doesn’t seem to be any.
I'm following it closely - can I ask where you got the information that the coronavirus was reported in the Chinese press on Nov 17th?
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 08:48
by Enlightened-One
Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑31 Mar 2020, 08:22
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Mar 2020, 07:19
Yeah, I’ve read the same accusations too.
I’m not saying they’re wrong either, but none of those claims have been backed up with anything meaningful.
For sure, I have my own suspicions and I’ve also read paperwork relating to class action lawsuits filed against China, but most of the accusations are based on media claims, rather than any evidence.
I’ve done a lot of research, but I still don’t know very much about the situation or the justification for these allegations, since nearly everything I’ve read or seen is based on hearsay.
Put it this way, people have assumed that China must have concealed the true extent of the coronavirus, simply because they’ve had so few cases.
However, there are 15 countries that share land or sea borders with China, but they also reported very few instances of the coronavirus. Are they hiding information from the Western world also?
I’ve also read a report about a doctor (Dr Li Wenliang) trying to raise awareness of the coronavirus outbreak and being told to stop by the Chinese police, but the timelines don’t really seem compatible, since a newspaper reported COVID-19 on the 17th November and the doctor was allowed to return to work.
I’m hoping that someone more knowledge than me can share more concrete proof, because there doesn’t seem to be any.
I'm following it closely - can I ask where you got the information that the coronavirus was reported in the Chinese press on Nov 17th?
I can't find the article, since it was a couple of days ago when I read it. I'll post it when I see it again.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 13:43
by diddy
Chinese doctors who tried to blow the whistle about how serious it was LITERALLY DISAPPEARED. They’re a Communist dictatorship. You’re expecting transparency? They f*cked everyone. Had they acted weeks earlier and sealed off Wuhan 95% of this wouldn’t be ANYWHERE ELSE. We would be talking about boxing if they did. People got on flights all around the world over the chinese holiday, spreading it everywhere. It was too late for the rest of the world by then.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 07 Apr 2020, 08:42
by Enlightened-One
"It only takes one case of COVID-19 at UFC 249 and Dana White faces ruin" (Source: WBN)
Combat and wannabe boxing promoter Dana White is hell-bent on staging, not only UFC 249 on April 18 but potentially many more events as a worldwide crisis deepens.
As most of the planet remains on lockdown, White is not waiting for any developments of the coronavirus curve. He’s simply going for it.
WBN explained on Tuesday that boxing will be looking to work out some lockdown-type measure themselves in order to stage fights, although most believe it’s far too early to do so yet.
That’s why White is polarizing audiences with his intent. The UFC boss is currently dicing with reputational death.
With the vast majority of people worried about the spread of this disease and content to stay quarantined until deaths begin to slow, White has a big problem on his hands for one reason.
Simply put…COVID-19.
If one fighter competing on the forthcoming card tests positive, or even worse, gets gravely ill to this virus, White would become the scapegoat. He could also prevent any future combat sports events from taking place for a long time to come.
It leads plenty to question…is it worth it just yet?
Putting himself firmly in the firing line, White is being perceived as placing money in front of the lives of his competitors and staff. Coupled with taking much-needed medical staff away from hospitals.
So why can’t he wait a few more weeks?
Well, there are some of those who White wanting to test the Pay-Per-View waters in the current climate to gauge the profit margins. This is totally wrong.
There seems to be no single good reason for this forthcoming event to go ahead at this stage. But White doesn’t mind being the potential fall guy.
Stringent screening of all fighters is all good and well. But it will only take that single case for it all to come crashing down.
How bad that case turns out to be could also have a long-term effect on White being the continued poster boy for UFC.
Safety is paramount – even more so now.
On the flip side, and if there are no cases, surely some similarly gung-ho boxing promoters out there will have their respective ears pricked.
Re: coronavirus How long are we looking at being inactive.?
Posted: 07 Apr 2020, 09:21
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Only a matter of time until hearn does likewise.....