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Stuarty wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 07:58 Obvious one is big Aud. Getting a mega money deal and the big billing after turing pro. Still had a more than decent career looking back but could definitely fall in to the category as 'hype job' in hindsight.... I loved Ryan Rhodes when i was a boy. Watching him on all the Naz undercards. Everyone seemed to have him as a world beater but then he ran in to Otis Grant who knew a bit too much for him at that age/stage in his career. He went a bit off the rails after the that form wise but finished his career with a flourish. I enjoyed the latter stages of his career. Again, had a career to be proud of but never lived up to the hype.

They're the 2 off the top of my head. What others are there and is it fair to name the two i mentioned as hype jobs? I'm not sure!

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 19:59 Remember Brendan used to absolutely rave about Daniel Teasdale from when he was a youngster, saying he was going to be the best to ever come out of the gym and would eclipse Naz‘s achievements? Poor kid only had 5 pro fights in the end, losing 1 along the way.

Pugilist-specialist wrote: ↑02 May 2020, 02:42

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 19:59 Remember Brendan used to absolutely rave about Daniel Teasdale from when he was a youngster, saying he was going to be the best to ever come out of the gym and would eclipse Naz‘s achievements? Poor kid only had 5 pro fights in the end, losing 1 along the way.

At the time he was winning national titles every year. After being at the gym from the age of 6 he left to turn pro

Coco wrote: ↑02 May 2020, 05:53

Pugilist-specialist wrote: ↑02 May 2020, 02:42

At the time he was winning national titles every year. After being at the gym from the age of 6 he left to turn pro

What did he end up doing in life?

Pugilist-specialist wrote: ↑02 May 2020, 06:42

Coco wrote: ↑02 May 2020, 05:53

What did he end up doing in life?

I think he was an office manager last I heard. He'd got lots of regrets but you can't turn the clock back.

Roco wrote: ↑02 May 2020, 09:53 What about Paul Knights. I seem to remember sky trying to big him up and he was always on the undercard of big fights when he was up and coming, but didn't really achieve much in the end.

THEBUTCH wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 19:26 Yep, all the of these already mentioned below fit the bill :

Matthew Ellis
Roman Greenberg
Shafiq Khalid
Steve Barnes

Ellis and Greenberg could at least look special at times but should have stayed career amateurs.

Barnes and Khalid were absolutely awful (measured against the hype). Brendan Ingle was often guilty of wild hyperbole and also getting it completely wrong sometimes.

THEBUTCH wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 19:26 Barnes and Khalid were absolutely awful (measured against the hype). Brendan Ingle was often guilty of wild hyperbole and also getting it completely wrong sometimes.

THEBUTCH wrote: ↑02 May 2020, 12:56 Against the hype they received and how they performed as professional boxers, in my eyes, they were. I can think of loads and loads of boxers with "poor" records who were much better pros and barely got a word mentioned about them in comparison to those two.

Pugilist-specialist wrote: ↑02 May 2020, 10:59

THEBUTCH wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 19:26 Barnes and Khalid were absolutely awful (measured against the hype). Brendan Ingle was often guilty of wild hyperbole and also getting it completely wrong sometimes.

They weren't.
Barnes had two elbow operations and was done at 18. Khalid was in prison at 21.

Londonirish wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 09:04

paddy chavez wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 09:24

Dodson ficked himself with being self managed it sounds good but why Will a promotor bother building you up know you'll leave .

Dodson was the b0llox!! During the Commonwealth Games Haider Ali was amazing but once the head gear came off Ali didn't know what to do...

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 May 2020, 01:15 Who are the average ams who were very successful pros, there've been some, but not many who were legit just like any average am in the gym. Like I've seen Josh Warrington called an average am but he made the ABA semis or finals, I think maybe twice, that's not really average though tbf doing as well as he's done in the pros is overachieving compared to that

I think the worst reported amateur record I've heard from a somewhat notable fighter is Librado Andrade being 2-14

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 May 2020, 01:15 Who are the average ams who were very successful pros, there've been some, but not many who were legit just like any average am in the gym. Like I've seen Josh Warrington called an average am but he made the ABA semis or finals, I think maybe twice, that's not really average though tbf doing as well as he's done in the pros is overachieving compared to that

I think the worst reported amateur record I've heard from a somewhat notable fighter is Librado Andrade being 2-14

Deserter wrote: ↑03 May 2020, 01:31

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 May 2020, 01:15 Who are the average ams who were very successful pros, there've been some, but not many who were legit just like any average am in the gym. Like I've seen Josh Warrington called an average am but he made the ABA semis or finals, I think maybe twice, that's not really average though tbf doing as well as he's done in the pros is overachieving compared to that

I think the worst reported amateur record I've heard from a somewhat notable fighter is Librado Andrade being 2-14

Johnny Nelson would be the first name on my lips - don't know what his overall am record was, but 99% sure he lost nearly all his first 10 fights and don't think he ever won a title in the ams.